JUGGERNAUT Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 The B-movie The Island touches upon many issues related to human cloning. I call it a B-movie because the dialogue was awkward, the chemistry was weak, & the ending was a hollywood fairy-tale. The best performance in the film comes from the boiler room guy so that doesn't say much for the lead actors. But putting the movie aside, they did touch upon the important issues. Human cloning is inevitable because whether it is legal or illegally the demand will be great. Vanity-wise we already have an estimated 30 million people in America willing to break the law to get high. So you figure probably 60 million would be willing to break the law to stay younger &/or live longer. Security-wise what a nightmare. Even if it takes 3 yrs to grow a full adult clone. Imagine a 5 star general getting pinched by a hot babe so she can get a sample. Three years later the enemy has themselves a tool to break any security measure associated with a physical characteristic. Passwords & badges can be hacked. That's the reason security is moving to physical characteristics to begin with. Cloning means the bad guys take the lead until nano-machines arrive. Of course if in the middle of all this medical science develops what I will call "organ" interfaces then the vanity-wise selling point won't need clones. Healthy people will prove a good supply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxy Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Aug 7, 2005 -> 05:37 PM) The best performance in the film comes from the boiler room guy so that doesn't say much for the lead actors. That's Steve Buscemi, you need to get out more. The movie was horrible. Horrible writing, preachy, incoherent, and showed NO understanding of how the government funds scientific research. Absolutely unrealistic. Horrible. And, I doubt humans will be cloned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 QUOTE(ChiSoxyGirl @ Aug 7, 2005 -> 10:01 PM) That's Steve Buscemi, you need to get out more. The movie was horrible. Horrible writing, preachy, incoherent, and showed NO understanding of how the government funds scientific research. Absolutely unrealistic. Horrible. And, I doubt humans will be cloned. The saddest post I've ever made on here, probably, but I don't. I think it will be done. And, when it happens, Hell hath no fury... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 I think that human cloning is inevitable because it's possible to do and I think it's getting nearly impossible to enforce laws against it. We can't stop North Korea from getting the bomb, if a scientist who believes in cloning decided to move there to finish his or her work, what would be there to stop them? In terms of the "Therapeutic cloning" aspect, the whole idea of the Island...sort of a spare-body part warehouse, simply isn't what would actually happen...first of all because of how repugnant it is, but more importantly because if we let the research be done properly, hopefully there'd be no need for it. The real goal of a full research project in this area would be to extract DNA from an individual, and use that DNA to produce stem cells that match the body of the recipient. Those cells could then hopefully be used as implants to help the person's body itself recover. I believe that is the ultimate goal of these sorts of programs, and hopefully it should be able to avoid the whole "body part warehouse" idea that people opposed to the research float. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 I liked Scarlett in that movie. But that is it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Aug 7, 2005 -> 06:24 PM) The saddest post I've ever made on here, probably, but I don't. I think it will be done. And, when it happens, Hell hath no fury... And I'll go a step further and say that I believe it's a lot closer then we think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 I really want to see that movie. It looks like a great popcorn flick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 I think we all just need to take a breath and realize this is a debate about a film from Michael "I shouldn't be allowed to make any more movies because all of mine are crap" Bay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Aug 8, 2005 -> 03:40 AM) I think we all just need to take a breath and realize this is a debate about a film from Michael "I shouldn't be allowed to make any more movies because all of mine are crap" Bay. And a thread started by Juggs. KIDDING! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Anybody know who Michael Bay's ex girlfriend is? Hint: We have become very familiar with her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Aug 8, 2005 -> 03:27 AM) Anybody know who Michael Bay's ex girlfriend is? Hint: We have become very familiar with her. Sali nerdag? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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