CSF Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 (edited) Yes, the Bob Wickman according to Dave Revsine on Sportscenter. He gave that list to Harold Reynolds. Nevermind that Buehrle fellow, or even that dude who broke his leg (Halladay or somethin'). :rolly BTW, Harold didn't disappoint and picked Rivera. :headshake Edited August 9, 2005 by ChiSoxFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 I challenge anyone to give me one good reason why Bob Wickman should even be considered for AL Cy Young. Other than the fact that he has a couple more saves than Hermanson and Rivera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 I'm not a real big proponent of closers getting the CY unless they've been otherworldly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 8, 2005 -> 11:08 PM) I challenge anyone to give me one good reason why Bob Wickman should even be considered for AL Cy Young. Other than the fact that he has a couple more saves than Hermanson and Rivera. Perhaps it is because Wickman has warriors on his side. http://www.wickmanswarriors.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 8, 2005 -> 11:08 PM) I challenge anyone to give me one good reason why Bob Wickman should even be considered for AL Cy Young. Other than the fact that he has a couple more saves than Hermanson and Rivera. if the cy young is based on attractiveness, then he wins hands down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSF Posted August 9, 2005 Author Share Posted August 9, 2005 QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Aug 8, 2005 -> 11:11 PM) if the cy young is based on attractiveness, then he wins hands down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 QUOTE(ChiSoxFan @ Aug 8, 2005 -> 11:03 PM) Yes, the Bob Wickman according to Dave Revsine on Sportscenter. He gave that list to Harold Reynolds. Nevermind that Buehrle fellow, or even that dude who broke his leg (Halladay or somethin'). :rolly BTW, Harold didn't disappoint and picked Rivera. :headshake Revsine is a Sox fan.... Garland, but no Buehrle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Aug 8, 2005 -> 11:17 PM) Revsine is a Sox fan.... Garland, but no Buehrle? What are the chances that Revsine is writing that s*** anyway. I doubt he's comming up with the subject matter for segments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 9, 2005 -> 12:08 AM) I challenge anyone to give me one good reason why Bob Wickman should even be considered for AL Cy Young. Other than the fact that he has a couple more saves than Hermanson and Rivera. ^^^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Aug 8, 2005 -> 10:11 PM) I'm not a real big proponent of closers getting the CY unless they've been otherworldly. Relievers have their award--Rolaids Relief. Gagne received the award, amongst controversy, and he was absolutely dominant with a 50+ game save streak which extended the entire season. I don't care how 'money' Rivera has been, he doesn't deserve the Cy Young. Buehlre and Garland both deserve more consideration than him. It will be an absolute travesty if Rivera wins. Yankees might not even make the playoffs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the People's Champ Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Aug 9, 2005 -> 01:41 AM) Relievers have their award--Rolaids Relief. Gagne received the award, amongst controversy, and he was absolutely dominant with a 50+ game save streak which extended the entire season. I don't care how 'money' Rivera has been, he doesn't deserve the Cy Young. Buehlre and Garland both deserve more consideration than him. It will be an absolute travesty if Rivera wins. Yankees might not even make the playoffs! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Did Thigpen get the Cy Young the year he broke the save record?? Cause if that doesn't get it for him then no closer should get it IMO. I would have to say that demolishing the old save record by what 15 or so?? That is otherworldly wouldnt you say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHAFTR Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Aug 8, 2005 -> 11:11 PM) I'm not a real big proponent of closers getting the CY unless they've been otherworldly. I agree. It's kind of like rewarding a really good pinch hitter. Someone who performs very well in high pressure situations but isn't playing the rest of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 (edited) The best was Harold's reason for picking Mariano Riviera. He says he won't pick pick either Buehrle or Garland just because the White Sox are in first. He says it should be given to someone on pitching ability. Fine. But then he goes on to say the reason he picks Mariano is because he is winning ball games for the Yanks and keeping them in contention . Edited August 9, 2005 by Buehrle>Wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierSox Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Aug 9, 2005 -> 08:39 AM) The best was Harold's reason for picking Mariano Riviera. He says he won't pick pick either Buehrle or Garland just because the White Sox are in first. He says it should be given to someone on pitching ability. Fine. But then he goes on to say the reason he picks Mariano is because he is winning ball games for the Yanks and keeping them in contention . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 QUOTE(the People's Champ @ Aug 9, 2005 -> 04:28 AM) Did Thigpen get the Cy Young the year he broke the save record?? Cause if that doesn't get it for him then no closer should get it IMO. I would have to say that demolishing the old save record by what 15 or so?? That is otherworldly wouldnt you say? No, he did not get it that year. Only like 9 relief pitchers have earned it in history...2 in the last 15 years...Gagne and the Eck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Aug 9, 2005 -> 07:39 AM) The best was Harold's reason for picking Mariano Riviera. He says he won't pick pick either Buehrle or Garland just because the White Sox are in first. He says it should be given to someone on pitching ability. Fine. But then he goes on to say the reason he picks Mariano is because he is winning ball games for the Yanks and keeping them in contention . Because Buehrle and Garland haven't done anything whatsoever to keep the Sox in contention or win ballgames for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Aug 9, 2005 -> 11:43 AM) Because Buehrle and Garland haven't done anything whatsoever to keep the Sox in contention or win ballgames for them. No, the offense is winning games for the White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Aug 9, 2005 -> 11:42 AM) No, he did not get it that year. Only like 9 relief pitchers have earned it in history...2 in the last 15 years...Gagne and the Eck. I thought Willie Hernandez did in something like 1984? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Aug 9, 2005 -> 09:56 AM) I thought Willie Hernandez did in something like 1984? You are correct on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjm676 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 (edited) Relief Pitchers who have won the Cy Young: AL: 1992 Dennis Eckersley Oakland 1984 Willie Hernandez Detroit 1981 Rollie Fingers Milwaukee NL: 2003 Eric Gagne Los Angeles 1989 Mark Davis San Diego 1987 Steve Bedrosian Philadelphia 1979 Bruce Sutter Chicago 1974 Mike Marshall Los Angeles Edited August 9, 2005 by robinventura23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 its kinda early to tell. Sanata won his last year on the strength of his pitching in the second half and same thing with Holliday the year beofre when they should have given it to Estaban Loiza. i think garland will get it if he holds up, but i personally would like to see Mark get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Aug 9, 2005 -> 10:20 AM) its kinda early to tell. Sanata won his last year on the strength of his pitching in the second half and same thing with Holliday the year beofre when they should have given it to Estaban Loiza. i think garland will get it if he holds up, but i personally would like to see Mark get it. I'm amazed you didn't spell any of the names of those pitchers correctly. (except Garland of course) On Loaiza, he lost the Cy Young because of 1 game...the team desperately needed a win over the Twins to start a series against them, and Manuel sent Loaiza out with a cold when I believe the rest of the staff was on normal rest because of an off day. Loaiza was shelled. He lost the Cy Young race that day. The Sox were swept by the Twins that series, and we fell apart from that moment on. Edited August 9, 2005 by Balta1701 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GoSox05 Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 yeah sorry about all the names not spelled right, thats what i get for typing in a hurry and not double checking. I dont mean to be disrespectful of these fine players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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