SpringfieldFan Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 (edited) Folks, yesterday's game was a signature game for Neal. It showed to me he has come full circle since he joined the bigs in 2003: In 2003, the last game of the August series at Yankee stadium was the game Manuel started him instead of MB, and he recorded just one out, giving up four runs on three hits and five walks. Yesterday, in 2005's last game of the August series at Yankee stadium, he comes in late with nerves of steel to shut down the Yankees and get the W. I think it is just one more exclamation point on this amazing season. Neal Cotts! SFF Edited August 11, 2005 by SpringfieldFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Good call, SFF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsox08 Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 to Neal Cotts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Be Good Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Cotts has been awesome this season, he can step up in any situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 He sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Neal Cotts is another great example of a guy who got thrown under the bus by many here, after basically no time at the major league level. I am so glad to see the blessing of Soxtalk carryover to another guy, and to see Neal kickass out of the pen for the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Aug 11, 2005 -> 10:35 AM) Neal Cotts is another great example of a guy who got thrown under the bus by many here, after basically no time at the major league level. I am so glad to see the blessing of Soxtalk carryover to another guy, and to see Neal kickass out of the pen for the Sox. That throwing under the bus happens WAY too often here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ Aug 11, 2005 -> 09:36 AM) That throwing under the bus happens WAY too often here. We're a patient group, aren't we? Neal's been nothing short of magnificent this year and I don't think he's done improving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Aug 11, 2005 -> 10:38 AM) We're a patient group, aren't we? Neal's been nothing short of magnificent this year and I don't think he's done improving. I think you'll see Neal will be a starter or closer before he's done. He's got what it takes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Aug 12, 2005 -> 01:35 AM) Neal Cotts is another great example of a guy who got thrown under the bus by many here, after basically no time at the major league level. I am so glad to see the blessing of Soxtalk carryover to another guy, and to see Neal kickass out of the pen for the Sox. Oh yeah we remember those threads now don't we. Remember he had no control, he walks too many hitters, his ERA is too high, he should be in Charlotte starting, Kevin Walker has more potential than him, were some of the doozies to name a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ Aug 11, 2005 -> 09:41 AM) I think you'll see Neal will be a starter or closer before he's done. He's got what it takes. Agreed 100 percent. As you guys know Neal is one of the guys I've been real high on since I saw him pitch his first game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Aug 11, 2005 -> 09:44 AM) Oh yeah we remember those threads now don't we. Remember he had no control, he walks too many hitters, his ERA is too high, he should be in Charlotte starting, Kevin Walker has more potential than him, were some of the doozies to name a few. LOL, I was one of the Kevin Walker supporters I'll admit that. Key word there is WAS. Edited August 11, 2005 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Aug 12, 2005 -> 01:45 AM) Agreed 100 percent. As you guys know Neal is one of the guys I've been real high on since I saw him pitch his first game. It'll be interesting to see whether or not he actually gets the chance to be in our rotation in the future, especially if he keeps excelling as a set-up man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Sox Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Go Neal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Aug 11, 2005 -> 10:48 AM) LOL, I was one of the Kevin Walker supporters I'll admit that. Key word there is WAS. The key word there is "I" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Heres an interesting topic for discussion... Do you think he will ever start again? Personally I think he will stay in the bullpen for the rest of his career.... But I was wondering what opinion you guys had on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ Aug 11, 2005 -> 09:41 AM) I think you'll see Neal will be a starter or closer before he's done. He's got what it takes. The way he's been throwing this year, I'd like to see him close games someday. He definitely seems fearless out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Aug 11, 2005 -> 10:02 AM) Heres an interesting topic for discussion... Do you think he will ever start again? Personally I think he will stay in the bullpen for the rest of his career.... But I was wondering what opinion you guys had on it? I think he will be given the opportunity to start again, but i believe that he will be better off being in the pen for the rest of his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Alot of people were throwing him under the bus because he only had two pitches. Now he has added another to his quiver and is dominating hitters. His arm angle, his location on the mound and his abilty to throw for more heat are what have made him what he is today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Aug 11, 2005 -> 11:25 AM) Alot of people were throwing him under the bus because he only had two pitches. Now he has added another to his quiver and is dominating hitters. His arm angle, his location on the mound and his abilty to throw for more heat are what have made him what he is today. Which is common for a young pitcher until he learns how to master those 3rd and 4th pitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(YASNY @ Aug 11, 2005 -> 10:29 AM) Which is common for a young pitcher until he learns how to master those 3rd and 4th pitches. And to be honest, as a reliever because of how good his fastball is he doesn't need to much more then his fastball and a show me breaking ball. Edited August 11, 2005 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpringfieldFan Posted August 11, 2005 Author Share Posted August 11, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Aug 11, 2005 -> 11:02 AM) Heres an interesting topic for discussion... Do you think he will ever start again? Personally I think he will stay in the bullpen for the rest of his career.... But I was wondering what opinion you guys had on it? I raised this question in a thread a few weeks back. Of course, he was originally put in the pen to get seasoned to be a future starter. It was great to hear him say he was happy with his role now, but I wondered "what if he hadn't been?". It would seem a catch-22: relieving well made him too valuable to start but relieving poorly would have made it too risky to start him. I posed the question of what he would have needed to do to earn a starting role back but got no answer SFF Edited August 11, 2005 by SpringfieldFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 I dont think he would be as good as a starter right now. He is 24 years old and is just now figuring out his arm angle, his approach etc. To take him out of that role may damage his progress. With a few more years under his belt and perhaps another pitch, he may make a decent back of the rotation guy, but at this point, he is much more valuable as a lefty set up guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Montana Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 (edited) Cotts has been unstoppable and no one can scratch the surface of his excellence!!! To Neal Cotts Edited August 11, 2005 by Ozzie Montana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Aug 11, 2005 -> 09:02 AM) Heres an interesting topic for discussion... Do you think he will ever start again? Personally I think he will stay in the bullpen for the rest of his career.... But I was wondering what opinion you guys had on it? I think he'd be foolish to try to start again unless some team forced him to. Lefty starters are nice to have, yes, but think about what you see in almost every game. How many teams are there out there with 2 out of 3 hitters who bat lefty somewhere in their lineup? Every single team out there needs at least 1 quality left handed reliever...probably 2 if they genuinely want to compete. And especially after watching the Yankees and Red Sox this year...the price for quality relief pitching is about to go way up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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