Flash Tizzle Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(Whitesoxfan56 @ Aug 12, 2005 -> 07:32 PM) WOW he had a bad game, holy f*** were 34 games over .500 at worst after this game. we lost tonight, we didnt play well. the way i look at it, is when we clinch the division it doesnt matter how many games we win in the regular or post season as long as we win r last game! lets just go and get them tomorrow! I don't know what's hard to understand here. Because he's our ace DOES NOT mean he's immune from criticism because he pitches a poor game. Just as I'm not implying this one game erases his already stellar season. I've said this start he pitched poorly behind a nice offensive effort. Did he not? And I'm worried about any potential matchups against Oakland or Boston with Buehlre on the mound. Do you believe this isn't justified? Why is it following every win someone can point out how our team is destined for greatness, but following a defeat, no one can criticize any facet of our ballclub without hearing someone use the same rhetoric (best record in baseball, etc). Edited August 13, 2005 by Flash Tizzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Montana Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 I told to be aggressive, Luis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 Indians trail 8-4 going into the bottom of the 8th. If they comeback and win this game, I'm really not going to be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Aug 12, 2005 -> 07:39 PM) Why is it following every win someone can point out how our team is destined for greatness, but following a defeat, no one can criticize any facet of our ballclub without hearing someone use the same rhetoric (best record in baseball, etc). Oye ve, this is bull. After any loss everyone just freaks out not the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Montana Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Aug 12, 2005 -> 08:39 PM) I don't know what's hard to understand here. Because he's our ace DOES NOT mean he's immune from criticism because he pitches a poor game. Just as I'm not implying this one game erases his already stellar season. I've said this start he pitched poorly behind a nice offensive effort. And I'm worried about any potential matchups against Oakland or Boston with Buehlre on the mound. Do you believe this isn't justified? Why is it following every win someone can point out how our team is destined for greatness, but following a defeat, no one can criticize any facet of our ballclub without hearing someone use the same rhetoric (best record in baseball, etc). I dont know but im tired of hearing that too. Tell me something I dont know. Edited August 13, 2005 by Ozzie Montana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 Buehrle has a 4.50 ERA since the ASB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 So RH hitters are hitting .112 against Cotts. What are the chances if Damon is retired, Ozzie gets Cotts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesoxfan56 Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 I don't know what's hard to understand here. Because he's our ace DOES NOT mean he's immune from criticism because he pitches a poor game. Just as I'm not implying this one game erases his already stellar season. I've said this start he pitched poorly behind a nice offensive effort. Did he not? And I'm worried about any potential matchups against Oakland or Boston with Buehlre on the mound. Do you believe this isn't justified? Why is it following every win someone can point out how our team is destined for greatness, but following a defeat, no one can criticize any facet of our ballclub without hearing someone use the same rhetoric (best record in baseball, etc). <{POST_SNAPBACK}> When did I say not to critize him, I said he suck, cuz he did. Buehrle is my fav. player, but he had a bad game and I said that. I dont understand why your post was directed to me. I agree with all you said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYGarland Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 Cotts sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 Cotts is such a stud. Ozzie is an absolute moron though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Aug 12, 2005 -> 08:39 PM) Why is it following every win someone can point out how our team is destined for greatness, but following a defeat, no one can criticize any facet of our ballclub without hearing someone use the same rhetoric (best record in baseball, etc). Funny, I've yet to see anyone bit their tongue when it comes to critcising any of our players on here. Refer to the thousands upon thousands of posts that criticize and bash the team after a loss...or close win...or bad play...or bad quote...or new hairstyle...etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 12, 2005 -> 07:41 PM) So RH hitters are hitting .112 against Cotts. What are the chances if Damon is retired, Ozzie gets Cotts? Jenks in. Lots of moves this inning to protect the 1 run deficit. NO MOVES TO PROTECT THE GAME AN INNING EARLIER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesoxfan56 Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 Funny, I've yet to see anyone bit their tongue when it comes to critcising any of our players on here. Refer to the thousands upon thousands of posts that criticize and bash the team after a loss...or close win...or bad play...or bad quote...or new hairstyle...etc... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> thats exactlly what i didnt understand either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 RH hitters are hitting .112 against Cotts. Leave him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Aug 12, 2005 -> 07:40 PM) Oye ve, this is bull. After any loss everyone just freaks out not the other way around. Really? So I've never seen anyone claim "JENKS IS A STUD" following a good inning, or "THIS CLUB IS DESTINED FOR GREATNESS" following a victory. How is this any different, or worse, than being critical of Buehlre in one game. Or someone questioning our offense after a poor effort? I'm not putting his entire year under the microscope now. You just have to admit Buehlre's performance was poor and there's reason to be critical of him tonight. Nothing more than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Aug 12, 2005 -> 08:39 PM) I don't know what's hard to understand here. Because he's our ace DOES NOT mean he's immune from criticism because he pitches a poor game. Just as I'm not implying this one game erases his already stellar season. I've said this start he pitched poorly behind a nice offensive effort. Did he not? And I'm worried about any potential matchups against Oakland or Boston with Buehlre on the mound. Do you believe this isn't justified? Why is it following every win someone can point out how our team is destined for greatness, but following a defeat, no one can criticize any facet of our ballclub without hearing someone use the same rhetoric (best record in baseball, etc). you can criticize fine, what most have trouble with (including me) are the ones that never say anything positive, who seem to enjoy criticizing. Remember the "doubles" thread a few months ago? Criticiziing is fine, alot of times it's deserved, but sometimes people gotta take some time out and smell the roses. THis is as positive a year as we're gonna get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Aug 13, 2005 -> 01:44 AM) Jenks in. Lots of moves this inning to protect the 1 run deficit. NO MOVES TO PROTECT THE GAME AN INNING EARLIER. Really is mind-boggling, isn't it? He trusts our starters more than he does our relievers. As great as our starters have been this year, our big 3 relievers of Cotts/Cliff/Dustin have been 3 of the best in baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYGarland Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 12, 2005 -> 06:44 PM) RH hitters are hitting .112 against Cotts. Leave him in. Well if Renteria gets on here, I'm sure we'll see Marte vs. Ortiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Montana Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 Why does he always go with the lefty-lefty matchup and righty-righty one too? Doesnt he know Cotts pitches better to righties and if Renteria gets on then next is Ortiz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 12, 2005 -> 07:44 PM) RH hitters are hitting .112 against Cotts. Leave him in. Cotts is a lefty specialist now. Jenks has better splits against leftys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 Cotts vs. RH>Jenks vs. RH QUIT USING COTTS AS A LEFTY SPECIALIST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 12, 2005 -> 08:45 PM) Really is mind-boggling, isn't it? He trusts our starters more than he does our relievers. As great as our starters have been this year, our big 3 relievers of Cotts/Cliff/Dustin have been 3 of the best in baseball. Nevermind that Cliff hasn't been as solid as of late, Dustin has a bad back, or that all 3 have been worked fairly heavily... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 QUOTE(GBlum27 @ Aug 13, 2005 -> 01:46 AM) Cotts vs. RH>Jenks vs. RH QUIT USING COTTS AS A LEFTY SPECIALIST Especially with the risk that Jenks won't have control when he comes in. Cotts is the type of pitcher that if you see he has his good release point/control going, you should leave him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 BeWareTheNewSox 5 Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 12, 2005 -> 07:45 PM) Really is mind-boggling, isn't it? He trusts our starters more than he does our relievers. As great as our starters have been this year, our big 3 relievers of Cotts/Cliff/Dustin have been 3 of the best in baseball. It tells me that Dustin is not 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Montana Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 94 mph? Is the radar gone broken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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