BigSqwert Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 (edited) Alright...my first stab at a game thread. Maybe I can turn the luck around. Let's carry that 9th inning momentum right into game 2 and give Wakefield a knuckle sandwich! (Wow that was cheesy) Rip Em!!!!! Edited August 13, 2005 by BigSqwert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sti3 Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 :-& Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 Maybe Buehrle should take notes on a real ace at hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Aug 12, 2005 -> 09:50 PM) Maybe Buehrle should take notes on a real ace at hand. Jon Garland is more of an ace than Buehrle? Hahaha. Edited August 13, 2005 by GBlum27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 QUOTE(GBlum27 @ Aug 12, 2005 -> 08:54 PM) Jon Garland is more of an ace than Buehrle? Hahaha. Tell me how Buehrle has faired in big games. This doesn't only date to this year. Look at last year when he gave up like 8 runs in the first against the Yankees at home. Who was the only one who loss against the Twins especially after having an early lead?? Oh yeah, that was Buehrle this year. Buehrle has choked against the A's and Red Sox as well not once, but twice(well the A's 3 times). Buehrle gets a pass for the same s*** Garland got flak for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Aug 12, 2005 -> 08:56 PM) Tell me how Buehrle has faired in big games. This doesn't only date to this year. Look at last year when he gave up like 8 runs in the first against the Yankees at home. Who was the only one who loss against the Twins especially after having an early lead?? Oh yeah, that was Buehrle this year. Buehrle has choked against the A's and Red Sox as well not once, but twice(well the A's 3 times). Buehrle gets a pass for the same s*** Garland got flak for. Why was this a big game? Because it was the Red Sox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 Buehrle's 3 year splits against the 4 teams who have dominated the A.L. as of late: Red Sox: 3.64 era Angels: 2.74 era Yankees: 4.13 era Twins: 3.89 era Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Aug 12, 2005 -> 08:57 PM) Why was this a big game? Because it was the Red Sox? Red Sox twice. A's 3 times. Minnesota. Yankees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 4.01 era against the A's the last 3 years for the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted August 13, 2005 Author Share Posted August 13, 2005 Although I'm a huge Buehrle fan, he has kinda looked bad against the elite teams this year. I'm hoping he'll bounce back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Aug 12, 2005 -> 10:04 PM) Red Sox twice. A's 3 times. Minnesota. Yankees. Why do people think that he pitched bad in the minosota game God he gave up like 1 mistake to Tori Hunter nothing he can do the old johan santana was pitching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 QUOTE(ScottPodRulez22 @ Aug 12, 2005 -> 09:12 PM) Why do people think that he pitched bad in the minosota game God he gave up like 1 mistake to Tori Hunter nothing he can do the old johan santana was pitching. 5 ER IIRC. That's against a bad hitting club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Aug 12, 2005 -> 09:03 PM) Buehrle's 3 year splits against the 4 teams who have dominated the A.L. as of late: Red Sox: 3.64 era Angels: 2.74 era Yankees: 4.13 era Twins: 3.89 era Are you just going to ignore these stats nine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Aug 12, 2005 -> 09:22 PM) Are you just going to ignore these stats nine? Yes, high 3 ERA's are great aren't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Aug 12, 2005 -> 10:23 PM) Yes, high 3 ERA's are great aren't they? agaist the best f***ing teams in the league they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 QUOTE(ScottPodRulez22 @ Aug 12, 2005 -> 09:47 PM) agaist the best f***ing teams in the league they are. I'd rate the Cards, Yanks & Red Sox the best teams offensively over the past couple of years. Out of those teams, the teams he actually has played, he has a high 3 ERA against. Oakland he has a high ERA against as well. All the good teams he simply cannot beat. It's becoming even more viewable to see this year. Any elite team and chances are he won't beat them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Aug 12, 2005 -> 10:53 PM) I'd rate the Cards, Yanks & Red Sox the best teams offensively over the past couple of years. Out of those teams, the teams he actually has played, he has a high 3 ERA against. Oakland he has a high ERA against as well. All the good teams he simply cannot beat. It's becoming even more viewable to see this year. Any elite team and chances are he won't beat them. So please why have you suddenly went off at buehrle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Montana Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 RIP EMM!!! John Garland goes for win 17. Best of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 QUOTE(ScottPodRulez22 @ Aug 12, 2005 -> 10:02 PM) So please why have you suddenly went off at buehrle? I felt this way for some time. I was ready to go off on him the last time he faced Boston, then after he faced KC. Tonight was just the last straw since so many people call him an ace. Fact is he isn't. He's a nice #2 if anything. He's not a true ace. I'm not saying the guy sucks, but he is overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 QUOTE(Ozzie Montana @ Aug 12, 2005 -> 10:06 PM) RIP EMM!!! John Garland goes for win 17. Best of luck. ^What he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Aug 13, 2005 -> 04:10 AM) Fact is he isn't. He's a nice #2 if anything. He's not a true ace. I'm not saying the guy sucks, but he is overrated. No offense, but that's one of the most ridiculous things I've heard on this board. Buehrle might not have the stuff that some pitchers do, but he gives you as good a chance to win a start as almost anyone else. Only Santana and Halladay are better starters in the AL, in my opinion. Garland still has a few years to prove that this season isn't a fluke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Aug 12, 2005 -> 10:23 PM) Yes, high 3 ERA's are great aren't they? did you just complain about a 3 ERA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 BeWareTheNewSox 5 Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Aug 12, 2005 -> 09:03 PM) Buehrle's 3 year splits against the 4 teams who have dominated the A.L. as of late: Red Sox: 3.64 era Angels: 2.74 era Yankees: 4.13 era Twins: 3.89 era Ownt. I'd say give up since there's no convincing, but I don't see how he can still question MB being an ace after all these years, and the stats you posted help show how dumb his argument is. The bashers always only look at the negative stuff. Here's some stuff from this year. May 13th vs Baltimore. W - 8 IP , 3 ER, against the hottest team in the bigs at the time, and easily the best offensive team at the time. One of the 100 'must wins' that have been claimed this season to 'see how we would fair in the playoffs' May 18th vs Texas, W - 7.1 IP, 0 ER, another great offensive team. May 24th @ Anaheim, ND, 9 IP, 1 ER, Anaheim obviously good offensively, and impressive to do it at a West Coast team. May 30th vs Anaheim, ND, 8.1 IP, 3 ER, not bad for them seeing you for your last start. This was the famous Jeff Brantley/Memorial Day game. June 11th @ San Diego, W, 7.2 IP, 0 ER, maybe not the best offensive team, but they were the hottest in the NL at the time, and good again to do it at their ball park. What more can you ask for? I'd say the All Star Game is a preaty big game as well, must be doing well to start that too. Other honorable mentions are complete shutdowns of the offenses of Cleveland (even after facing them so much), Seattle, Dodgers, and KC, and another one at Baltimore that was ended early, but I didn't include them since they wouldn't be seen as big games since the offenses aren't top tier (Cleveland and Seattle's aren't too shabby though). Sure, there are bad games, just like other pitchers, including aces. Roger Clemens is rare, this stuff happens, and he just seems to be going through a little iffy stretch lately. I don't care, think what you think, I still trust MB, and it's nice to have Garland and Freddy to back him up just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 QUOTE(3 BeWareTheNewSox 5 @ Aug 12, 2005 -> 11:02 PM) Ownt. I'd say give up since there's no convincing, but I don't see how he can still question MB being an ace after all these years, and the stats you posted help show how dumb his argument is. The bashers always only look at the negative stuff. Here's some stuff from this year. May 13th vs Baltimore. W - 8 IP , 3 ER, against the hottest team in the bigs at the time, and easily the best offensive team at the time. One of the 100 'must wins' that have been claimed this season to 'see how we would fair in the playoffs' May 18th vs Texas, W - 7.1 IP, 0 ER, another great offensive team. May 24th @ Anaheim, ND, 9 IP, 1 ER, Anaheim obviously good offensively, and impressive to do it at a West Coast team. May 30th vs Anaheim, ND, 8.1 IP, 3 ER, not bad for them seeing you for your last start. This was the famous Jeff Brantley/Memorial Day game. June 11th @ San Diego, W, 7.2 IP, 0 ER, maybe not the best offensive team, but they were the hottest in the NL at the time, and good again to do it at their ball park. What more can you ask for? I'd say the All Star Game is a preaty big game as well, must be doing well to start that too. Other honorable mentions are complete shutdowns of the offenses of Cleveland (even after facing them so much), Seattle, Dodgers, and KC, and another one at Baltimore that was ended early, but I didn't include them since they wouldn't be seen as big games since the offenses aren't top tier (Cleveland and Seattle's aren't too shabby though). Sure, there are bad games, just like other pitchers, including aces. Roger Clemens is rare, this stuff happens, and he just seems to be going through a little iffy stretch lately. I don't care, think what you think, I still trust MB, and it's nice to have Garland and Freddy to back him up just in case. All going to the playoffs, right?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pods70Rowand33 Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 Let's go Jon shut them down, and lets bring out that offense again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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