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QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Aug 13, 2005 -> 08:21 PM)
Rauch, in his minor league career, averaged 2.77 BB/9, and 8.55 K/9.

 

McCarthy, going into this season, averaged 1.54 BB/9, and 10.40 K/9.  I assume that the BB number went up a little bit, and the K/9 is about the same.

 

Still, he's about two K's better than Rauch, and about one walk better than Rauch. 

 

I'm also extremely happy with his recent success.  He'll have his ERA below four if he has another start like this one.

 

And I'm also extremely pissed that Joe Blanton is pitching well with Oakland, while Royce Ring is, well... Robby Alomar?  :D

Too bad the k/bb ratio didn't mean s*** when McCarthy was getting shelled with the Sox.

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QUOTE(quickman @ Aug 14, 2005 -> 02:22 AM)
Baj will never make it, and so far I have been proven right. i cannot recall my opinion on bradford, but I did like the trade. Not sure your point. My point is, our minor league system is not great and I do not think highly of our prospects As for the prospects i do like and have said so from the beginning are:

 

You've been proven right because he hasn't had much of an opportunity to prove himself. He's clearly better than his competition at AAA -- even you can admit that, no?

 

My point with Bradford was that he pitched well in the minors, and they didn't really think all that much of him, either.

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QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 13, 2005 -> 08:24 PM)
I decided to cave in and purchase mlbtv.com for a month.  It was the first pitch I saw in that game.  That's one of the longest homers I've ever seen.

 

Isn't it kind of hard to watch a baseball game on your computer? The games aren't full screen, right?

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QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 13, 2005 -> 10:16 PM)
Rauch didn't walk that many. 16 in 57innings at Bristol in 1999. 33 in 110 innings at Winston Salem in 2000 and 16 in 56 innings at Birminham in 2000. McCarthy is striking guys out in the minors that he didn't in the majors on pitches just off the plate. Then he grooves one and its gone. He has been much better recently at Charlotte, and whatever he is doing now, hopefully he can do on the major league level his next opportunity.

 

McCarthy has rediscovered his preferred 12/6 arm slot. His pitches were a little flat for his ineffective starts. His recent performances are much more indicative of his abilities. I still think he will be a very effective pitcher when all is said and done. His spring training was not a fluke. He was dominant. When he is more over the top, his pitches are much harder to pick up. 12/6 augments his height.

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QUOTE(Brian @ Aug 14, 2005 -> 02:26 AM)
Isn't it kind of hard to watch a baseball game on your computer? The games are full screen, right?

 

It's actually very good. I highly recommend it to anyone that loves to watch baseball at all times.

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QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 13, 2005 -> 08:27 PM)
It's actually very good.  I highly recommend it to anyone that loves to watch baseball at all times.

We have th cable package, but as long as the Cardinals are on, I can't get the remote from the mother.

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QUOTE(Brian @ Aug 13, 2005 -> 09:26 PM)
Isn't it kind of hard to watch a baseball game on your computer? The games aren't full screen, right?

no, and yes, it's amazingly good as long as your not used to an "extra innings" package or anything

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QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 14, 2005 -> 02:25 AM)
Too bad the k/bb ratio didn't mean s*** when McCarthy was getting shelled with the Sox.

 

Well -- I don't know what that's supposed to mean, but again -- about five starts. And, we saw the worst of McCarthy, when he really wasn't pitching all that well at Charlotte, either.

 

I'm not saying McCarthy is ready right now. I think it would be good for him to finish the season at Charlotte, see if he can improve the amount of homers he's giving up, and maybe even learn a cutter.

 

But, he didn't throw his changeup AT ALL when he was with the Sox. He threw it like twice. And the minor league experts here said that was one of the main reasons he's been successful, 'cause he threw the changeup. For whatever reason, he had no faith at all in that pitch.

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QUOTE(Brian @ Aug 14, 2005 -> 02:27 AM)
We have th cable package, but as long as the Cardinals are on, I can't get the remote from the mother.

 

I was spoiled having the dish at home. At my new place, I missed being able to turn on Indians or Twins games whenever I wanted. I'm very happy with my purchase.

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QUOTE(ottawa_sox @ Aug 13, 2005 -> 08:26 PM)
McCarthy has rediscovered his preferred 12/6 arm slot.  His pitches were a little flat for his ineffective starts.  His recent performances are much more indicative of his abilities.  I still think he will be a very effective pitcher when all is said and done.  His spring training was not a fluke.  He was dominant.  When he is more over the top, his pitches are much harder to pick up.  12/6 augments his height.

He may be, and I hope you are right. I just think quickman is right. Hope this guy is a #4-5 guy, and if he is more than that its a bonus. We have been burned the last 12 years or so waiting for these guys to be anything more than that.

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QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 14, 2005 -> 02:29 AM)
He may be, and I hope you are right. I just think quickman is right. Hope this guy is a #4-5 guy, and if he is more than that its a bonus. We have been burned the last 12 years or so waiting for these guys to be anything more than that.

 

Maybe the White Sox should just stick to drafting OF'ers, 'cause it seems like that's the only thing they do well.

 

Carlos Lee and Maggs Ordonez (both minor league FA findings), Aaron Rowand, Jeremy Reed (whose having a decent -- not great -- rookie season), and hopefully Sweeney, Anderson, and Young.

 

Then, after you've completed the draft of 50 OFers, trade the ones that succeed for pitching. :D

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QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Aug 13, 2005 -> 09:26 PM)
You've been proven right because he hasn't had much of an opportunity to prove himself.  He's clearly better than his competition at AAA -- even you can admit that, no?

 

My point with Bradford was that he pitched well in the minors, and they didn't really think all that much of him, either.

 

 

actually I would like to know why he hasn't been given the chance, is it that the sox don't think he is good. i suspect that is the case. Why is he never mentioned in trade rumors? is it because the scouting reports tell every team he cannot transition his game to the big show. I think that could be it. Getting excited about prospects is a dead end game because most don't make it.

 

Gload is better at triple A as well because he is older and spent alot of time there. He is forever a backup in the Majors because his game will not transition on a consistant level. If it did many teams would have been clamoring for the guy. Its just a fact some guys don't have the goods to be in the mjors, some are fringe players, some contributors and some stars.

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QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Aug 13, 2005 -> 08:32 PM)
Maybe the White Sox should just stick to drafting OF'ers, 'cause it seems like that's the only thing they do well.

 

Carlos Lee and Maggs Ordonez (both minor league FA findings), Aaron Rowand, Jeremy Reed (whose having a decent -- not great -- rookie season), and hopefully Sweeney, Anderson, and Young.

 

Then, after you've completed the draft of 50 OFers, trade the ones that succeed for pitching.  :D

The most successful one, Ordonez, they exposed to the Rule 5 draft. I wasn't a huge fan of the Schueler regime. I was doing an Irish Jig when he resigned, and I'm not even Irish.

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QUOTE(quickman @ Aug 14, 2005 -> 02:32 AM)
actually I would like to know why he hasn't been given the chance, is it that the sox don't think he is good. i suspect that is the case. Why is he never mentioned in trade rumors? is it because the scouting reports tell every team he cannot transition his game to the big show. I think that could be it. Getting excited about prospects is a dead end game because most don't make it.

 

That's some real s***ty scouting report, because it's awfully stupid to judge a guy off of eight IP. I'm not saying Bajenaru is the second coming of Gagne, but I think he can be a decent bullpen arm.

 

 

Gload is better at triple A as well because he is older and spent alot of time there. He is forever a backup in the Majors because his game will not transition on a consistant level. If it did many teams would have been clamoring for the guy. Its just a fact some guys don't have the goods to be in the mjors, some are fringe players, some contributors and some stars.

 

Which is why he put up a 115 OPS+ (or so) last year?

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