southsider2k5 Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 09:54 AM) There's nothing to spin. The numbers don't lie. People on the other hand often tend to exagerate. It's human nature Or they just plain make stuff up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 10:25 AM) Or they just plain make stuff up... "what is your definition of fake Eric?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 What exactly is there left to debate? That "most" means better than 90%? That there are close to 1200 players on ML rosters? That 90% of that is 1080? Even if you assume that most teams are 1-2 players shy of the 40 man it's still over 1000 players. That on average there are less than 250 OR & UR waivers per year? So what does that leave? ML & SPL waivers. ML can be withdrawn & SPL can't . If a team claims a player off SPL waivers they just have to pick up the contract. No cost in talent other than the impact the new player has on your budget & your roster. So what's reasonable for a SPL waiver count? 60? Add it all up & you're still looking at 700 shy of what is needed to say "most" players. Taking the Newsday article into consideration you're still 350 players shy. It's reasonable to say "LOTS" or even the "MAJORITY" but not most. Hawk's term as GM proved he didn't know how to do basic math very well :rolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 booooorrrrrring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernuke Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 10:39 AM) What exactly is there left to debate? That "most" means better than 90%? That there are close to 1200 players on ML rosters? That 90% of that is 1080? Even if you assume that most teams are 1-2 players shy of the 40 man it's still over 1000 players. That on average there are less than 250 OR & UR waivers per year? So what does that leave? ML & SPL waivers. ML can be withdrawn & SPL can't . If a team claims a player off SPL waivers they just have to pick up the contract. No cost in talent other than the impact the new player has on your budget & your roster. So what's reasonable for a SPL waiver count? 60? Add it all up & you're still looking at 700 shy of what is needed to say "most" players. Taking the Newsday article into consideration you're still 350 players shy. It's reasonable to say "LOTS" or even the "MAJORITY" but not most. Hawk's term as GM proved he didn't know how to do basic math very well :rolly According to Webster's, most only means the majority not at least 90%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 Wondering where that 90% figure came from. Most means 50% plus 1. However, it is safe to assume that a significant number of players go through the waiver process. Any rebuttal of that fact is pure bulls***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 Majority means 50% plus 1. Most can mean majority but it's more often associated with nearly all. Consider an example: You have 10 petri dishes. If 6 out of the 10 cultures were good. You would say the majority of cultures were good. If 9 out of 10 were good you would say most of the cultures were good. However, it is safe to assume that a significant number of players go through the waiver process. Any rebuttal of that fact is pure bulls***. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Without question, yes. You can even assume that there are more requests for ML waivers than any other type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 09:28 PM) Majority means 50% plus 1. Most can mean majority but it's more often associated with nearly all. Consider an example: You have 10 petri dishes. If 6 out of the 10 cultures were good. You would say the majority of cultures were good. If 9 out of 10 were good you would say most of the cultures were good. Without question, yes. You can even assume that there are more requests for ML waivers than any other type. In the lastest Cincinatti Enquirer where the Reds COO is denying the Griffey rumors, he said that 800 players have cleared waivers. Considering that doesn't count all those that were claimed, its just another source making your continuing denial laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 08:55 AM) In the lastest Cincinatti Enquirer where the Reds COO is denying the Griffey rumors, he said that 800 players have cleared waivers. Considering that doesn't count all those that were claimed, its just another source making your continuing denial laughable. Shhh He's waiting for Billy Beane to say it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 The guy was emotionally upset. People tend to exagerate a LOT in that state. We'll have to see if Newsday follows up on their previous column. I'm starting to really loathe Linder. He stands between the Whites Sox & the World Series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 09:36 AM) The guy was emotionally upset. People tend to exagerate a LOT in that state. From your posts we know this to be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 Man, I even brought out the monkey humping a robot, and still this thread goes on.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 Amazing. Simply amazing. :headshake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernuke Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 09:28 PM) Majority means 50% plus 1. Most can mean majority but it's more often associated with nearly all. Consider an example: You have 10 petri dishes. If 6 out of the 10 cultures were good. You would say the majority of cultures were good. If 9 out of 10 were good you would say most of the cultures were good. Without question, yes. You can even assume that there are more requests for ML waivers than any other type. Main Entry: 1most Pronunciation: 'mOst Function: adjective Etymology: Middle English, from Old English m[AE]st; akin to Old High German meist most, Old English mAra more -- more at MORE 1 : greatest in quantity, extent, or degree 2 : the majority of I'll stick with what the word means not what some people think it means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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