rangercal Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 (edited) 2000 2005 April 17-8 17-7 May 13- 14 18-10 June 20-7 18- 7 July 14-12 15-11 August 15-13 6-9 September 16-12 Does this pattern scare the s*** out of anyone else? I know we have a huge lead. I just don't want to back into the playoffs like we did in 2000. I know we have played a pretty tough schedule of late. Though, I could point out a handfull of our second half losses that that our 1st half team would have won. Im still confident with this team. But, these splits still crawl in the back of my head. Edited August 18, 2005 by rangercal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAfan Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 The problem in 2000 was a complete breakdown in our pitching staff in August/September. This year our offense threatens to go in the tank. However, I would happily take 15-13 and 16-12 as a W-L record these two months, as it would almost certainly ensure home field advantage in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 As long as we make it to the playoffs i will be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted August 16, 2005 Author Share Posted August 16, 2005 QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 04:05 PM) As long as we make it to the playoffs i will be happy. and get swept? The point I'm making is to finish strong and carry that momentum into the playoffs. i.e 2003 Marlins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(VAfan @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 03:02 PM) The problem in 2000 was a complete breakdown in our pitching staff in August/September. This year our offense threatens to go in the tank. However, I would happily take 15-13 and 16-12 as a W-L record these two months, as it would almost certainly ensure home field advantage in the playoffs. How far back is the surging Boston team. Are you sure that just coasting along we are ensured the home field for the playoffs. Methinks you under-estimate our opponents. Plus in the playoffs our pitching staff pitched relatively well. It was our offense that decided to disappear. The birth of Corpseball was in the 2000 ALDS. Edited August 16, 2005 by southsideirish71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted August 16, 2005 Author Share Posted August 16, 2005 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 04:07 PM) How far back is the surging Boston team. Are you sure that just coasting along we are ensured the home field for the playoffs. Methinks you under-estimate our opponents. If we coast the rest of the way, Boston, anaheim and Oakland all have legitimate shots at posting a better W/L . It won't matter of the WC has a better W/L . I would not want both Boston and the AL west winner to have home field over us. Do we win a game 5 in Boston, Oakland, or Anaheim? I don't know yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 02:07 PM) Plus in the playoffs our pitching staff pitched relatively well. It was our offense that decided to disappear. The birth of Corpseball was in the 2000 ALDS. Yes, but also in 2000 it was our offense that got us to the playoffs. It will not be our offense that gets us there this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 Some part of me also doesn't really care whether or not we get home field...simply because we've been the best road team in the big leagues this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(rangercal @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 03:07 PM) and get swept? The point I'm making is to finish strong and carry that momentum into the playoffs. i.e 2003 Marlins What i meant is that i would be happy if we got there. But i, just as every other fan wants their team to succeed in the playoffs. As of right now we still have to make the playoffs. I know we have a 12 game lead over cleveland, but we aren't promised a spot in the playoffs yet. Until we make it to the playoffs, i will be happy with making it to the playoffs, then winning the ALDS series and ALCS series and making it to the WS then hopefully winning the WS. (all of which would come after making to the playoffs) This is what i would like to happen, as i am sure that you would also want this to happen also. Edited August 16, 2005 by sayitaintso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 03:11 PM) Yes, but also in 2000 it was our offense that got us to the playoffs. It will not be our offense that gets us there this year. Everyone on this site keeps banking on our pitching just shutting down the opposition in the playoffs and our offense just wooping on the opposing pitching because it doesnt match up. Boston has a killer offense. They have beat up on some of the best pitchers in the league this year. We will have to have our pitchers have great games and our offense will have to step up. While they have done this a few times, other times they get shut down by mediocre pitching. Vlad is the X factor. The minute he came back that offense started to hit. We have not faced Vlad this year and barely and I mean barely squeaked some victories out. Does his bat change some of those games, maybe it does. We had hard times hitting Lackey and in some respect Colon who would be one and two out of the rotation. The As. We cant hit Zito at all, if Harden is on he is very difficult plus we have a hard time winning against that team at all. Their high OBP hitters are murder against our team and the type of hitter we have. A power pitcher has a distinct advatage over the As. But finese pitchers who pound the strikezone like we have for Garland and Buerhle and Garcia(not finese but he does pound the strikezone) are at a disadvantage. Each opponent will be a tough challenge for us. We have great pitching who will have to get hot so we can ride them. We have to get our hitting more consistant by October so we are not a homer or nothing team. If we get back to stringing hits together, making contact, moving the runner over, playing smart we have a chance. If our offense stays the same as it is now. We will be swept out of the playoffs no matter who we play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Sox Fan Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 03:12 PM) Some part of me also doesn't really care whether or not we get home field...simply because we've been the best road team in the big leagues this year. I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UofIChiSox Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 I'm less worried about homefield and more worried about limping into the playoff and rolling over and playing dead again, like in 2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 It's funny cuz all I'm worried about is the Twins game tonight. Relax. Ozzie was watching Trader Jack last time around when the Marlins won with good pitching and "smart" ball. One game at a time, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UofIChiSox Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 QUOTE(TheDybber @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 10:06 PM) It's funny cuz all I'm worried about is the Twins game tonight. Relax. Ozzie was watching Trader Jack last time around when the Marlins won with good pitching and "smart" ball. One game at a time, please. I'm jealous, but for me, with this good of a record and big of a lead, it's very difficulat not to look ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgtp Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 NO. does not scare me. The past is the past. Different team different players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpringfieldFan Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 (edited) To those who just want to make the playoffs first: Assume the time comes when we are mathematically assured of the postseason. If we are still sputtering on offense and fighting to win half our games, will you have any concern over how we have played since the break, and will you care how the remainder of the regular season goes? SFF Edited August 16, 2005 by SpringfieldFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 2000 Pitching staff Jim Parque Mike Sirotka James Baldwin Cal Eldred Bad Jon Garland Plus bad defense 2005 Pitching staff Mark Buehrle Good Jon Garland Freddy Garcia Jose Contreras Orlando Hernandez Plus good defense Yah, I know who I'd be more comfortable with going into the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 QUOTE(SpringfieldFan @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 03:13 PM) To those who just want to make the playoffs first: Assume the time comes when we are mathematically assured of the postseason. If we are still sputtering on offense and fighting to win half our games, will you have any concern over how we have played since the break, and will you care how the remainder of the regular season goes? SFF We only need to go 11-8 in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Montana Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 (edited) They will be the same in the playoffs with the bats, NO OFFENSE. The pitching will keep them in the game but they cant all go 9 innings. Edited August 17, 2005 by Ozzie Montana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted August 18, 2005 Author Share Posted August 18, 2005 Is it time to fear another version of backing in the playoffs yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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