Soxbadger Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 Im just making the point that you really never know who it can be. Every player potentially could be a user. Regardless of how they appear, or what they say, we do not know the person. There are plenty of fakes in the world, and I would imagine that quite a few baseball players fall into this category. Since the whole thread is entirely speculation based on no personal knowledge, I might as well add some new names to the mix, instead of just repeating the same old rumors. SB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 QUOTE(3 BeWareTheNewSox 5 @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 05:16 PM) Teinowitz giving more hints, 'one in the AL and one in the NL, both in the AllStar Game this year'. Jurko saying that he'd guess the Cubs would love one of these guys as a FA next year, implying Damon. Mac also asked something implying Damon. Now he's saying that one guy is a pitcher and the other isn't. Also that one of the guys has been on their show (so they're basically backing up Damon and Clemens) That Neyer quote is also very interesting. Tomorow should be very interesting! MLB will probably take a big hit from this, anyone think Selig would resign? If it is two big names I think Congress will really push to take control of the testing, which I believe will mirror the IOC. this is actually the opposite of what i think. why should selig resign? he is obviously doing something everybody wants. this shows his program is working and not just catching minor leaguers and the derrick turnbows of the world. if anything this should make a case for him to remain comish cuz hes getting stuff done. obviously it was a problem before this, but at least he is righting the ship. i think congress is the same way, they see the current program maybe working. granted it has loopholes, weve known that, so i wouldnt mind congress stepping in. but congress shouldnt step in because people are getting caught. people getting caught is a good thing and showing the program is working (at least to a degree) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 If everyone can trace this rumor to this site, it better be true, or we're gonna get ripped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Aug 19, 2005 -> 02:51 AM) If everyone can trace this rumor to this site, it better be true, or we're gonna get ripped. Disagree. I think most posters have been pretty cautious. And if the national media utters a single word based on such a flimsy source, it won't be the source that looks ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 BeWareTheNewSox 5 Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 07:41 PM) Both websites eluding to these steroid discussions (Cincinnati/NYY fan sites) have referenced Soxtalk. One of the Cincinnati posters even mentioned our website breaking a steroid positive two days before it was known publically. Now we didn't exactly break this news--New York website had a thread started on August 11, but I find it interesting people have trusted our website's sources. I linked to both those sites and didn't see Soxtalk.com referenced. The NYY one credited a Michael Kay ESPN Radio show in NY, and the Reds one came from a guy who claimed to work in the office of a Major League Organization Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 QUOTE(3 BeWareTheNewSox 5 @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 10:29 PM) I linked to both those sites and didn't see Soxtalk.com referenced. The NYY one credited a Michael Kay ESPN Radio show in NY, and the Reds one came from a guy who claimed to work in the office of a Major League Organization You read all 27 pages of the Yankee one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 BeWareTheNewSox 5 Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 09:41 PM) You read all 27 pages of the Yankee one? No way, too many NY fan idiots accusing everyone they thought possible, but the thread started with the info coming from the NY ESPNRADIO show. I see the Cincy one now shows Soxtalk, but the thread starters had their own references Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 (edited) Not that this is new, but I heard from another board ESPN radio just reported that 2 people were caught with roids. Cept this timet hey named the names. EDIT: I should they reported rumors of this. Edited August 19, 2005 by Buehrle>Wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 OMG, the Astros have a promotion tomorrow at Minute Maid: Friday, August 19 Buy Tickets Now > Roger Clemens CY-7 T-Shirts First 10,000 Adults Sponsored by MBNA Tell me that is not f***ing hillarious if this does go down tomorrow. This morning Roger Clemens was suspended for use of a banned substance, come down to Minute Maid Park be one of the first 10,000 adults and get your very own Roger Clemens T-shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 BeWareTheNewSox 5 Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 10:13 PM) OMG, the Astros have a promotion tomorrow at Minute Maid: Tell me that is not f***ing hillarious if this does go down tomorrow. This morning Roger Clemens was suspended for use of a banned substance, come down to Minute Maid Park be one of the first 10,000 adults and get your very own Roger Clemens T-shirt. Haha, seems fitting that it happens at the "Juicebox" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Buffalo Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 I understand why players are allowed to appeal before their names become public, but it kind of reeks of cover-up. I think they should do away with the MLB run drug testing and go with an independent agency. Either that, or line up all of the players, have them pull down their pants, and anyone with nuts smaller than John Kruk's gets a 10 game suspension. Proof positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 see photo of Kapler several years ago. Kapler has always been this way, dating back to when he was in the minors.... Here is an article about him and Ron Gant from 2001 I don't know Kapler's situation personally, but I do know guys that have done some amazing things in a gym without roids. A strong workout regimen, plenty of cardio and strict diet and supplements as simple as Met-Rx can make a huge difference. Just thought I would add this, 8 pages later......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 I don't think that anything is going to come out tomorrow. Just speculating, but I'm going to say this all gets swept under the rug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 (edited) Just thought I'd share two of my favorite steroid cases of all time. One was suspended for steroids the other was never proven but it reeks of roids not to mention the fact that it has been widely speculated that he used. Brady Anderson... ___HR_SLG% '92: 21 .449 '93: 13 .425 -8 HR '94: 12 .419 -1 HR '95: 16 .444 +4 HR '96: 50 .637 +34 HR '97: 18 .469 -32 HR '98: 18 .420 NC '99: 24 .477 +6 HR '00: 19 .421 -5 HR '01: 8 .300 '02: 1 .250 A 34 HR spike and a .193 SLG% spike. A small little leadoff hitter for the Baltimore Orioles suddenly hits 50 HRs and suddenly becomes this: but my favorite.... Why would a WR weigh nearly 260 pounds? David Boston was suspended for steroid use on Dec. 13, 2004. The guy was always pretty big dating back to his days with the Buckeyes but a sudden weight gain and muscle gain once he reached the Chargers was quite alarming. Suddenly he was giant and bulky with hardly the speed he used to have. Steroids in essence ruined his career. Edited August 19, 2005 by Kalapse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty22hotty Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 The rumor was 50 positives with 2 bigger than Raffy... Does anyone know if only 2 names will be released tomorrow? It seems strange they will release the biggest 2 names on the same day without any other people being named. If the Rocket and/or Damon test positive, all hope for idolizing superstars will go down the drain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 19, 2005 -> 12:01 AM) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 QUOTE(scotty22hotty @ Aug 19, 2005 -> 12:06 AM) The rumor was 50 positives with 2 bigger than Raffy... Does anyone know if only 2 names will be released tomorrow? It seems strange they will release the biggest 2 names on the same day without any other people being named. If the Rocket and/or Damon test positive, all hope for idolizing superstars will go down the drain. You're not supposed to idolize athletes anyway, it's the perfect way to have your heart broken when you learn about the person off the field and at times on the field as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 19, 2005 -> 12:10 AM) You're not supposed to idolize athletes anyway, it's the perfect way to have your heart broken when you learn about the person off the field and at times on the field as well. Unless it's.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Aug 19, 2005 -> 12:19 AM) Unless it's.... Or.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Aug 19, 2005 -> 12:22 AM) Or.... Or... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Aug 19, 2005 -> 01:22 AM) Or.... That Griffey pic would make a great White Sox uniform pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsox08 Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 11:01 PM) Just thought I'd share two of my favorite steroid cases of all time. One was suspended for steroids the other was never proven but it reeks of roids not to mention the fact that it has been widely speculated that he used. Brady Anderson... ___HR_SLG% '92: 21 .449 '93: 13 .425 -8 HR '94: 12 .419 -1 HR '95: 16 .444 +4 HR '96: 50 .637 +34 HR '97: 18 .469 -32 HR '98: 18 .420 NC '99: 24 .477 +6 HR '00: 19 .421 -5 HR '01: 8 .300 '02: 1 .250 A 34 HR spike and a .193 SLG% spike. A small little leadoff hitter for the Baltimore Orioles suddenly hits 50 HRs and suddenly becomes this: but my favorite.... Why would a WR weigh nearly 260 pounds? David Boston was suspended for steroid use on Dec. 13, 2004. The guy was always pretty big dating back to his days with the Buckeyes but a sudden weight gain and muscle gain once he reached the Chargers was quite alarming. Suddenly he was giant and bulky with hardly the speed he used to have. Steroids in essence ruined his career. shhhhh he's on my fantasy team this year.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 QUOTE(wsox08 @ Aug 19, 2005 -> 01:38 AM) shhhhh he's on my fantasy team this year.. Might I ask why? He's #3 on Miami's depth chart and he sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 07:27 PM) Let's go through all of the pitchers that were in the All Star game for the AL and the NL that teams are in playoffs. Jason Isrignhausen Chris Carpenter Brad Lidge Jake Peavy John Smoltz Clemens Colon- He is on Pizza Rivera I like Damon however i think the AL player is damon. You forgot Buerhle and Garland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 Both Clemens and Damon have told the press that these rumors are false. FWIW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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