White Sox Josh Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 This might be the guy the sox need to get. He can hit for a good average and he can hit for some power. He is a left handed bat who can fit into the lineup anywhere and he can play a ton of positions like all outfield positions and 1st Base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 He can't play a TON of positions. He can play some OF and some 1B, that is all. The question is, is he a big enough upgrade over Everett to pay the amount for him that the Mariners would be asking for. They got Bazardo from the Marlins for Villone, that was way too much for a journeyman lefty reliever like Villone and at the same time they asked for McCarthy from the Sox for Villone, which is total horses***. Their price for a guy like Ibanez could be too ridiculous. There are a few GMs this trade deadline that have proven to be delusional and disconnected from the game. Ibanez could be a nice pickup for this club but the price could be too outrageous for a player like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted August 18, 2005 Author Share Posted August 18, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 12:02 AM) He can't play a TON of positions. He can play some OF and some 1B, that is all. The question is, is he a big enough upgrade over Everett to pay the amount for him that the Mariners would be asking for. They got Bazardo from the Marlins for Villone, that was way too much for a journeyman lefty reliever like Villone and at the same time they asked for McCarthy from the Sox for Villone, which is total horses***. Their price for a guy like Ibanez could be too ridiculous. There are a few GMs this trade deadline that have proven to be delusional and disconnected from the game. Ibanez could be a nice pickup for this club but the price could be too outrageous for a player like him. his numbers are pretty damn good. He isn't bad defensively either though not good either. His numbers are: AVG .293 | HR 15 | RBI 68 in a pitchers park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Aug 17, 2005 -> 11:09 PM) his numbers are pretty damn good. He isn't bad defensively either though not good either. His numbers are: AVG .293 | HR 15 | RBI 68 in a pitchers park. s***, right now this offense is so bad, if Timo was on another team, I would want the Sox to trade for Timo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Sox Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan562004 @ Aug 17, 2005 -> 11:34 PM) s***, right now this offense is so bad, if Timo was on another team, I would want the Sox to trade for Timo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 03:09 PM) his numbers are pretty damn good. He isn't bad defensively either though not good either. His numbers are: AVG .293 | HR 15 | RBI 68 in a pitchers park. That's not the issue, the issue is the price to get him. Think Chris Young and Gio Gonzalez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 01:10 AM) That's not the issue, the issue is the price to get him. Think Chris Young and Gio Gonzalez. That sounds about right. Both are top 10 prospects which is about what they'd be looking for. The price is just too damn high. Bazardo was the 3rd ranked player in the Marlins system and Seattle got him for Villone. Taking 2 of the Sox top 10 is about what they'd be looking to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 04:26 PM) That sounds about right. Both are top 10 prospects which is about what they'd be looking for. The price is just too damn high. Bazardo was the 3rd ranked player in the Marlins system and Seattle got him for Villone. Taking 2 of the Sox top 10 is about what they'd be looking to do. And people are going to say well for Griffey they only want Young and Rogowski plus a mid - level prospect (which was the deadline deal). Well the issue is this. Ibanez only has what 1 year left on his deal, is younger and his salary is manageable. And of course Bill Bavasi probably won't want to trade one of the guys HE signed to try and save face. He's already under enouh pressure at it is right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 02:10 AM) That's not the issue, the issue is the price to get him. Think Chris Young and Gio Gonzalez. No.. The issue is the M's are smoking some serious s*** if that's the Price tag.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 I have a question about Dmitri Young...since he can play 1B is his defense better than Paulies?? If so the Sox could use him at 1b and have Paulie DH. I don't have time here at work to check all the stats so any info would be good. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 There's gonna be a lot of dissapointed people once Aug 31st has passed and we have the exact same team we have now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesoxfan56 Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 I have a question about Dmitri Young...since he can play 1B is his defense better than Paulies?? If so the Sox could use him at 1b and have Paulie DH. I don't have time here at work to check all the stats so any info would be good. Thanks. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> PK is one of the most underrated defensive players at his position. So I would much rather have PK then young at 1st. Young is more of a DH then 1 1B. PK>>>>>>>>>>Young Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 04:51 PM) I have a question about Dmitri Young...since he can play 1B is his defense better than Paulies?? If so the Sox could use him at 1b and have Paulie DH. I don't have time here at work to check all the stats so any info would be good. Thanks. I saw Dimitri Young play at 1B in one game at Arizona first hand. To sum it up, Conor Jackson would be a better fielding first baseman than Dimitri Young. He was awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 QUOTE(JoshPR @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 04:45 PM) No.. The issue is the M's are smoking some serious s*** if that's the Price tag.. It's the 2005 Trade Market. So many of these teams that are below .500 don't want to trade their big players because they want to win now, they've had enough of losing. That's why you didn't see the Pittsburgh's and the Cincinatti's trading the Griffey's and Mesa's etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxrd5 Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 QUOTE(Whitesoxfan56 @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 07:38 AM) PK is one of the most underrated defensive players at his position. So I would much rather have PK then young at 1st. Young is more of a DH then 1 1B. PK>>>>>>>>>>Young The one thing that often gets overlooked with Konerko is his ability to pick every low throw out of the dirt. He makes all the in-between hops look easy, something that very few 1b out there can do. He also has a very good arm for a first basemen but that shouldn't be suprising because he used to catch. However, sometimes his range from left to right can be questioned. On Tuesday night, he had one of his classic slow-motion dives for a ball hit to his left. But overall, his defense is not one of our pressing concerns at this point. Young would be our DH which would be fine IMO. (not that this is going to happen ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 He doesn't sound too bad once you think about our lineup. I just wish there was a decent shortstop or third basemen that we could pick up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesoxfan56 Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 The one thing that often gets overlooked with Konerko is his ability to pick every low throw out of the dirt. He makes all the in-between hops look easy, something that very few 1b out there can do. He also has a very good arm for a first basemen but that shouldn't be suprising because he used to catch. However, sometimes his range from left to right can be questioned. On Tuesday night, he had one of his classic slow-motion dives for a ball hit to his left. But overall, his defense is not one of our pressing concerns at this point. Young would be our DH which would be fine IMO. (not that this is going to happen ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> PK was a catcher? I knew he played 1st but he was a catcher? WOW you learn something new everyday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 You also have to remember that Dimitri Young showed NO love for our club at the beginning of the year, he ran his dumb mouth and them and Cleveland fighting for the division. How would he fit in after saying some dumb s*** like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 QUOTE(Whitesoxfan56 @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 08:57 AM) PK was a catcher? I knew he played 1st but he was a catcher? WOW you learn something new everyday Catcher to 3B to 1B. He was originally drafted by the Dodgers as a Catcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesoxfan56 Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 Catcher to 3B to 1B. He was originally drafted by the Dodgers as a Catcher. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thats awesome Thanks for the info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 heres Kong at 3B I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 10:33 AM) heres Kong at 3B I believe And this is a personal favorite of mine: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 young catcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 10:35 AM) young catcher A prospect card that also includes "the great" Derek Lee in a Padres uni. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAfan Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 Why not send someone like Jerry Owens and a couple similar prospects for Ibanez? He's not on the 40-man roster, so he wouldn't have to clear waivers. And he's hot, so maybe he has value. Yet, at 24, he probably has less upside than Sweeney or Chris Young. Ibanez could start in LF while Pods is on the DL, and afterward could spell Dye, Rowand (with Pods in CF after he returns), Everett, and Konerko. We'd have no need to Timo Perez, and for the playoffs we might find Willie Harris's speed to be of greater value. Ibanez would be a very useful addition, who could also be used as a role player next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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