White Sox Josh Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 According to ESPN 1000 SC Update it says he needs more shoulder sugery. Ouch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 Uh oh, I'm gonna be hearing about this one from the hoards of Cardinals fans. :rolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 That team was fine without Rolen earlier this seaosn. They're in trouble if they don't get Molina and Sanders back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 Wow, really sucks for the Cards. What is Walker's status? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 The Cardinals are the TRUE "best team in baseball" without having Rolen, Walker, Sanders, Molina, etc. for parts of the season. They find guys ( including minor-leaguers ) to plug in to their roster and they just keep on rolling. Even as talented as he is, I think they'll be fine without Rolen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxin' Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 Welcome to my life Scott Rolen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 QUOTE(The Critic @ Aug 19, 2005 -> 07:54 AM) The Cardinals are the TRUE "best team in baseball" without having Rolen, Walker, Sanders, Molina, etc. for parts of the season. They find guys ( including minor-leaguers ) to plug in to their roster and they just keep on rolling. Even as talented as he is, I think they'll be fine without Rolen. They started off with one of the best benches in baseball, with guys like Taguchi and Mabry sitting around waiting for playing time. That has helped a lot. Also, they haven't gotten hurt at the positions they're strongest at...up the middle and at 1b. The guy who has really hurt them while he's been out has been Molina...that's the 1 injury that saw their record get worse. And of course, there's always 1 last point...I don't care how many people get hurt, when you put Pujols in a lineup...that's a solid lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 QUOTE(The Critic @ Aug 19, 2005 -> 02:54 PM) The Cardinals are the TRUE "best team in baseball" without having Rolen, Walker, Sanders, Molina, etc. for parts of the season. They find guys ( including minor-leaguers ) to plug in to their roster and they just keep on rolling. Even as talented as he is, I think they'll be fine without Rolen. Really, they're the only dominant team in baseball. It's kind of like the NFL with the Patriots. They have the most depth, the fewest weaknesses, incredible coaching, etc. I'd put money on them right now if not for the fact that there is an outside shot that the Sox could meet them in the World Series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 Six months = Season? Why not just say that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardsJimEdmonds15 Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 QUOTE(SuperSteve @ Aug 19, 2005 -> 02:04 PM) Six months = Season? Why not just say that? Because the Cardinals still think Rolen can play.. He's out for the year though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Aug 19, 2005 -> 12:52 PM) Really, they're the only dominant team in baseball. It's kind of like the NFL with the Patriots. They have the most depth, the fewest weaknesses, incredible coaching, etc. Atlanta? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Aug 19, 2005 -> 09:26 PM) Atlanta? Really? You'd consider Atlanta a dominant team right now? I guess that I'd put them in the "Very Good Teams" category with the White Sox, Red Sox, Astros, Angels, Athletics, etc. I don't like their pitching too much. Edited August 19, 2005 by hammerhead johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Aug 19, 2005 -> 02:30 PM) Really? You'd consider Atlanta a dominant team right now? I'll guess that I'd put them in the "Very Good Teams" category with the White Sox, Red Sox, Astros, Angels, Athletics, etc. I don't like their pitching too much. They have made the playoffs for what, 15 straight years now, without breaking the bank any of those years. They have a chance to win just as much as the Cardinals every year, depending on how injuries go. I'd call them incredibly dominant just for how long they've done it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Aug 19, 2005 -> 09:32 PM) They have made the playoffs for what, 15 straight years now, without breaking the bank any of those years. They have a chance to win just as much as the Cardinals every year, depending on how injuries go. I'd call them incredibly dominant just for how long they've done it. I hear that. I'm just talking about this year, at this point in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Montana Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Dont know if it has been posted, if so, sorry. http://tsn.ca/mlb/news_story.asp?id=134169 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 By the title of the thread, thought the Redbirds were playing the Bears next week or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxin' Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 There's a thread in Around the Horn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Aug 19, 2005 -> 04:30 PM) Really? You'd consider Atlanta a dominant team right now? I guess that I'd put them in the "Very Good Teams" category with the White Sox, Red Sox, Astros, Angels, Athletics, etc. I don't like their pitching too much. Their pitching? Hudson, Smoltz, Hampton, Thompson...I'd take them in the playoffs. I think you mean to say their hitting is scarier, atleast that is for me IMHO. Their bullpen is bad too, but who knows what could happen in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 QUOTE(SuperSteve @ Aug 21, 2005 -> 11:40 PM) Their pitching? Hudson, Smoltz, Hampton, Thompson...I'd take them in the playoffs. I think you mean to say their hitting is scarier, atleast that is for me IMHO. Their bullpen is bad too, but who knows what could happen in the playoffs. Their hitting is pretty damn good, actually. Chipper Jones, Andruw Jones, Jeff Francouer, Marcus Giles, Rafael Furcal, Adam Laroche, etc. That works for me. And yeah, I like the 3 man rotation with Hudson/Smoltz/Hampton. But that bullpen is gonna get them knocked out of the playoffs in a hurry. That's why I said that I don't like their pitching too much. This is a very good team, just not a dominant one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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