beck72 Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 Even with the horrible play of late, the sox have me more encouraged that they'll get it out of their system before the playoffs start and be ready for October. Sure, there are the doubters who worry the Indians and Twins may yet overtake the sox. But IMO, the sox pitching is strong enough that the offense will score enough runs to keep the AL Central teams at bay. today was a prime example of why the sox should be OK. Before, when the sox couldn't buy a hit or get on base by standing on the plate, I wasn't so sure. But they had the scoring chances, had guys on base. They execute, they win. It didn't happen today. Yet even at their worst, they still were in the ballgame. Up and down the lineup, most of the guys are at their obsolute worst hitting wise--avg, OBP, SLG, situational hitting, working pitchers. They can't get any worse if they tried. This collective funk will pass. All it takes is one game to get over it. It's not like in years past where you'd feel the sox were overmatched, and unable to mount a serious threat against even weak teams. Against possible playoff opponents who've been playing good ball, the sox, at their obsloute worst, have been in the games. They get back to playing the unselfish team game, working pitchers, playing solid defense, they'll be ready for the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 Finally a positive post. You're having me starting to believe also, let's get a win tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 When I see an offense that has the opportunity to score runs maybe more than once every 5 innings, I'll get optimistic about our chances. We got 4 hit by Chacon, and we realistically have about 5 hard hit balls in the last 36 innings of baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsox08 Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 QUOTE(beck72 @ Aug 20, 2005 -> 05:17 PM) Even with the horrible play of late, the sox have me more encouraged that they'll get it out of their system before the playoffs start and be ready for October. Sure, there are the doubters who worry the Indians and Twins may yet overtake the sox. But IMO, the sox pitching is strong enough that the offense will score enough runs to keep the AL Central teams at bay. today was a prime example of why the sox should be OK. Before, when the sox couldn't buy a hit or get on base by standing on the plate, I wasn't so sure. But they had the scoring chances, had guys on base. They execute, they win. It didn't happen today. Yet even at their worst, they still were in the ballgame. Up and down the lineup, most of the guys are at their obsolute worst hitting wise--avg, OBP, SLG, situational hitting, working pitchers. They can't get any worse if they tried. This collective funk will pass. All it takes is one game to get over it. It's not like in years past where you'd feel the sox were overmatched, and unable to mount a serious threat against even weak teams. Against possible playoff opponents who've been playing good ball, the sox, at their obsloute worst, have been in the games. They get back to playing the unselfish team game, working pitchers, playing solid defense, they'll be ready for the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 QUOTE(beck72 @ Aug 20, 2005 -> 06:17 PM) Even with the horrible play of late, the sox have me more encouraged that they'll get it out of their system before the playoffs start and be ready for October. Sure, there are the doubters who worry the Indians and Twins may yet overtake the sox. But IMO, the sox pitching is strong enough that the offense will score enough runs to keep the AL Central teams at bay. today was a prime example of why the sox should be OK. Before, when the sox couldn't buy a hit or get on base by standing on the plate, I wasn't so sure. But they had the scoring chances, had guys on base. They execute, they win. It didn't happen today. Yet even at their worst, they still were in the ballgame. Up and down the lineup, most of the guys are at their obsolute worst hitting wise--avg, OBP, SLG, situational hitting, working pitchers. They can't get any worse if they tried. This collective funk will pass. All it takes is one game to get over it. It's not like in years past where you'd feel the sox were overmatched, and unable to mount a serious threat against even weak teams. Against possible playoff opponents who've been playing good ball, the sox, at their obsloute worst, have been in the games. They get back to playing the unselfish team game, working pitchers, playing solid defense, they'll be ready for the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Genius s s s s s. Sorry, I don't buy it. We couldn't hit Shawn Chacon hard. We didn't make hard outs. This team swings at more bad pitches than any in memory. If they make the playoffs, I'll be happy, at this point. This team lacks a guy who can get the job done on the offensive side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsox08 Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Aug 21, 2005 -> 01:09 AM) Genius s s s s s. Sorry, I don't buy it. We couldn't hit Shawn Chacon hard. We didn't make hard outs. This team swings at more bad pitches than any in memory. If they make the playoffs, I'll be happy, at this point. This team lacks a guy who can get the job done on the offensive side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Aug 21, 2005 -> 02:09 AM) Genius s s s s s. Sorry, I don't buy it. We couldn't hit Shawn Chacon hard. We didn't make hard outs. This team swings at more bad pitches than any in memory. If they make the playoffs, I'll be happy, at this point. This team lacks a guy who can get the job done on the offensive side. we must be the only team that could not hit Chacon hard since he joined the yankees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 QUOTE(wsox08 @ Aug 21, 2005 -> 02:15 AM) you = :sleep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsox08 Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Aug 21, 2005 -> 01:25 AM) you = :sleep oooooooooh you = and :puke and wait... .. (you are on the right) (right side is you again) get the picture? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(wsox08 @ Aug 21, 2005 -> 02:52 AM) oooooooooh you = and :puke and wait... .. (you are on the right) (right side is you again) get the picture? the picture is, you make no sense, and daddy should have shut off his computer before going to bed and letting you take over. Edited August 21, 2005 by Steve9347 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsox08 Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Aug 21, 2005 -> 01:54 AM) the picture is, you make no sense, and daddy should have shut off his computer before going to bed and letting you take over. the picture is you make no sense??? Talk about not making any sense.. Geez buddy, it's called an e-d-u-c-a-t-i-o-n... I think you should consider attempting to get one.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 QUOTE(wsox08 @ Aug 21, 2005 -> 03:00 AM) the picture is you make no sense??? Talk about not making any sense.. Geez buddy, it's called an e-d-u-c-a-t-i-o-n... I think you should consider attempting to get one.. Wow, just wow. This coming from the 12-year old in daddy's basement. I'm a college graduate, (although, I'm the first to admit that does not mean much) but I'd be willing to bet that's more e-d-u-c-a-t-i-o-n than yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsox08 Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Aug 21, 2005 -> 02:03 AM) Wow, just wow. This coming from the 12-year old in daddy's basement. I'm a college graduate, (although, I'm the first to admit that does not mean much) but I'd be willing to bet that's more e-d-u-c-a-t-i-o-n than yourself. wow let's argue about who is more educated... haha :headshake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 QUOTE(wsox08 @ Aug 21, 2005 -> 03:10 AM) wow let's argue about who is more educated... haha :headshake AKA, you're less educated. I believe the history of this thread will point out that you brought up education first. I'm going to bed. Have fun trying to break your dad's Cinemax code tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsox08 Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Aug 21, 2005 -> 02:11 AM) AKA, you're less educated. I believe the history of this thread will point out that you brought up education first. I'm going to bed. Have fun trying to break your dad's Cinemax code tonight. thanks... haha, You always seem to resort to talking about me doing something to "daddy's" things.. Learn about me before you attempt to talk s*** about me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Okay fellas, we get the point. Each of you thinks that the other's point of view is stupid. Let's just wait and see how the rest of the year turns out. Then, whomever turns out to be most accurate can say bad things about the other's mother in PMs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted August 21, 2005 Author Share Posted August 21, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 21, 2005 -> 12:01 AM) When I see an offense that has the opportunity to score runs maybe more than once every 5 innings, I'll get optimistic about our chances. We got 4 hit by Chacon, and we realistically have about 5 hard hit balls in the last 36 innings of baseball. Didn't the sox get the leadoff man on in 4 of the first 6 innings? that's what they were most successful at, not blowing scoring chances earlier in the yr. Getting back to that mindset and approach to hitting is easier to break out of slumps than the "rip and grip" mode the sox had been in the previous yrs. Had they capitalized on a few of those, maybe scored a 3 spot, the hitters could relax a little. Once they failed to score, the sox didn't go into the "here we go again mode" right away [after the 6th they did]. I saw them continue to battle, work pitchers a bit. I see guys pressing trying too hard to get the big hit, when a little dink hit, or grounder to the opposite field to move a runner over is only needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 QUOTE(rangercal @ Aug 21, 2005 -> 02:17 AM) we must be the only team that could not hit Chacon hard since he joined the yankees. It just seems like an excuse with every pitcher we face these days. "What did you expect our guys to do against ? He has been on fire lately. We faced a pitcher who is on a roll." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted August 21, 2005 Author Share Posted August 21, 2005 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Aug 21, 2005 -> 10:24 AM) It just seems like an excuse with every pitcher we face these days. "What did you expect our guys to do against ? He has been on fire lately. We faced a pitcher who is on a roll." The way the sox hitters are scuffling, they do make Chacon look like cy young. The point is that it can't be this bad for long. Nearly every sox hitter except for Konerko is at their worst point of the season or is slumping---far below their career avgs and their best point of this yr. This goes for Rowand, Dye, Iguchi, AJ, Everett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 QUOTE(beck72 @ Aug 21, 2005 -> 09:16 PM) The way the sox hitters are scuffling, they do make Chacon look like cy young. The point is that it can't be this bad for long. Nearly every sox hitter except for Konerko is at their worst point of the season or is slumping---far below their career avgs and their best point of this yr. This goes for Rowand, Dye, Iguchi, AJ, Everett. Yep and coupled with no Scotty Pod, that lineup looks a whole lot worse. It won't be like that for long though. They've just got to get the bats going before it's too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Aug 21, 2005 -> 02:09 AM) Genius s s s s s. Sorry, I don't buy it. We couldn't hit Shawn Chacon hard. We didn't make hard outs. This team swings at more bad pitches than any in memory. If they make the playoffs, I'll be happy, at this point. This team lacks a guy who can get the job done on the offensive side. Chacon has had a 2.16 era since coming over to the AL, I don't think we are the only ones not hitting him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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