Pat Robertson calls for Chavez assasination

[southsider2k5]

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/08/22/D8C595H80.html

 

Someone needs to shoot Robertson... :rolly

[Texsox]

Nice. How about a Hammer - Robertson ticket in '08

[Wong & Owens]

Do Christians even respect this dips*** anymore? Which commandement is "thou shalt not kill?" #2? #4?

[FlaSoxxJim]

Oh, Robertson says that he's the one,

[Well he sure is

if Armageddon

is your idea of family fun

An' he's got some planned for you!

(Now, tell me that ain't true)

 

--FZ on PR, from the song "Jesus Thinks You're a Jerk."

[southsider2k5]

Do Christians even respect this dips*** anymore?  Which commandement is "thou shalt not kill?"  #2?  #4?

 

Not a chance. I have noticed the simiarities between Robertson and Bin Laden though. Both seem to like to hi-jack their peaceful religions for things that aren't even there, by means that are expressly forbidden by their respective religions.

[Rex Kickass]

Remember: 9/11 was the fault of feminists and gays. At least that's what Mr. Falwell and Robertson thought on 9/12/01.

[LowerCaseRepublican]

Oh, Robertson says that he's the one,

[Well he sure is

if Armageddon

is your idea of family fun

An' he's got some planned for you!

(Now, tell me that ain't true)

 

--FZ on PR, from the song "Jesus Thinks You're a Jerk."

Jim and Pat should take a pole

Right up their saintly glory hole

With tar and feathers too

Just like they'd love to do to you

Cuz they think you are bad

And they are very mad

[FlaSoxxJim]

Jim and Pat should take a pole

Right up their saintly glory hole

With tar and feathers too

Just like they'd love to do to you

Cuz they think you are bad

And they are very mad

Imagine if you will. A multi-millionaire Television Evangelist,

Saved from Korean Combat duty by his father, a U.S. Senator...

 

Studied Law. But is not qualified to practice it...

 

Father of a "love child" who, in adulthood, hosts the remnants of papa's religious propaganda program...

 

Claims not to be a "Faith Healer", but has, in the past, dealt stearnly with everything from hemorrhoids to hurricanes...

 

Involved with funding for a 'secret war' in Central America, claiming Ronald Reagan and Oliver North as close friends...

 

Involved in suspicous 'tax-avoidance schemes'...

 

Claims to be a "MAN OF GOD"; Currenty seeking the United States Presidency, Hoping we will all follow him into – The Twilight Zone

 

FZ

[Benchwarmerjim]

Do Christians even respect this dips*** anymore?  Which commandement is "thou shalt not kill?"

 

 

this is my first thoughts after hearing about this today.

 

 

how fast is he going to claim liberal bias in the media taking his comments out of context

[southsider2k5]

this is my first thoughts after hearing about this today.

how fast is he going to claim liberal bias in the media taking his comments out of context

 

Pretty darned fast.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/24/robertson.chavez/index.html

[Wong & Owens]

Pretty darned fast.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/24/robertson.chavez/index.html

 

 

I hope HE gets hit by a meteor.

[FlaSoxxJim]

Pretty darned fast.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/24/robertson.chavez/index.html

Broadcaster says 'take him out' didn't mean assassination...

 

Uhm, maybe he meant 'take him out for dinner'??

[Rex Kickass]

I said our special forces should ’take him out.’ ’Take him out’ could be a number of things, including kidnapping.

 

“There are a number of ways of taking out a dictator from power besides killing him. I was misinterpreted by the AP, but that happens all the time.”

 

Even his apology is offensive. I meant kidnap him, not kill him!

[LowerCaseRepublican]

I loved his initial denying he ever said it followed by apologizing for something he contended he never said.

[JUGGERNAUT]

What he should have said is Chavez should be removed from office. Nothing more than that.

 

But guess what? He's old. People should be given a greater latitude to mis-speak as they grow older. Those of us who still are blessed to have our parents around should appreciate that the most.

 

Christians are called upon to forgive each other's mistakes. It's essential for salvation. They will easily forgive Robertson for this one. They will not liken him to Bin Laden. Only radical extremists would do that.

 

As to whether Chavez should be removed I leave that in the hands of those making the decisions at homeland security, NSD, & DOD. They have the best intelligence available to make those decisions & I'm not talking about search engines on the internet :rolly:

Edited August 25, 2005 by JUGGERNAUT

[Soxy]

But guess what?  He's old.  People should be given a greater latitude to mis-speak as they grow older.  Those of us who still are blessed to have our parents around should appreciate that the most.

Or, in their increasing wisdom acquired with age they should know the best time to stfu, or remove themselves from the spotlight.

[FlaSoxxJim]

Robertson has been saying stupid s*** since he was a young man, so I don't think age is the issue.

[Wong & Owens]

What he should have said is Chavez should be removed from office.  Nothing more than that.

 

But guess what?  He's old.  People should be given a greater latitude to mis-speak as they grow older.  Those of us who still are blessed to have our parents around should appreciate that the most.

 

Christians are called upon to forgive each other's mistakes.  It's essential for salvation.  They will easily forgive Robertson for this one.  They will not liken him to Bin Laden.  Only radical extremists would do that.

 

As to whether Chavez should be removed I leave that in the hands of those making the decisions at homeland security, NSD, & DOD.  They have  the best intelligence available to make those decisions & I'm not talking about search engines on the internet :rolly:

 

 

Misspeak my ass. If you defend Pat Robertson(and I have no doubt you have some excruciatingly boring mathematical equation that will defend his stance that hurricanes were caused by Gay Day at DisneyWorld) you're an idiot, plain and simple.

[JUGGERNAUT]

Or, in their increasing wisdom acquired with age they should know the best time to stfu, or remove themselves from the spotlight.

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What you are advocating is that as people grow older they should silence themselves for fear of mis-speaking. That is not a principle this nation was founded upon. It's not a sociallly accepted norm either. America is probably the most forgiving nation on the planet. That's part of our Christian heritage.

 

As the country grows more literate over time it should be able to discern when someone mis-speaks. We should not be engaging in the habit of dismissing all other knowledge about a person to pounce on one statement. Any one petty enough to continue engaging in such practices should leave. The nation would be better as a whole if they did.

 

In a better world the reporter would have immediately questioned his statement as he made it. The reporter should have said "Are you advocating that we should assasinate him?" That would have given the old man a time to reflect on his statement & correct/clarify it right there on the spot.

[Soxy]

What you are advocating is that as people grow older they should silence themselves for fear of mis-speaking. That is not a principle this nation was founded upon.  It's not a sociallly accepted norm either.  America is probably the most forgiving nation on the planet.  That's part of our Christian heritage. 

 

As the country grows more literate over time it should be able to discern when someone mis-speaks. We should not be engaging in the habit of dismissing all other knowledge about a person to pounce on one statement. Any one petty enough to continue engaging in such practices should leave.  The nation would be better as a whole if they did.

 

In a better world the reporter would have immediately questioned his statement as he made it.  The reporter should have said "Are you advocating that we should assasinate him?"  That would have given the old man a time to reflect on his statement & correct/clarify it right there on the spot.

Misspeaks are different than calling for someone's assisination. And there were no reporters when he made the comment. He was on his "Christian" show the 700 Club.

[JUGGERNAUT]

Misspeaks are different than calling for someone's assisination. And there were no reporters when he made the comment. He was on his "Christian" show the 700 Club.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

In your world maybe. In mine I expect humans to fail regularly. That's why my work in computer science is devoted to automation & removing the human element from the equation. Likewise in my hobby of designing video games I try to anticipate human weakness & build hints & special sequences into play that overcome them.

 

As for what he said I did not see the show so I can't comment. I am referring to the link at the top which is a reporters version. If he did say that on the show & there was no correction or clarification soon thereafter on that same show then the producer is at fault. He should have prompted someone present to ask Robertson the question I posted above right there & then. It's the producers job to insure that each production runs smoothly.

Edited August 25, 2005 by JUGGERNAUT

[GoSox05]

I can honestly say that i have never "slipped" or "accidently" called for someones murder.

 

 

Its not that he said it. People say crazy stuff all the time. Its that Bush and alot on the right either argeed with him or didnt discount what he said.

[LowerCaseRepublican]

So, Juggs -- lemme get this straight.

 

Muslim cleric calling for world leader's assassination = dangerous extremist

Pat Robertson calling for world leader's assassination = a verbal faux pas

 

How clearly I see the distinction

 

Please, I've seen the video and the actual show when it aired. There was no taking stuff out of context.

[KevHead0881]

Stupid s*** said by Pat Robertson (apparently he's been "misspeaking" for years):

 

Anti-Semitism:

 

- The New World Order, (1991), p.17; "Communism was the brainchild of German-Jewish intellectuals."

 

- Petersburg Times, June 26, 1994; Bailey Smith, a founding father of Robertson's Christian Coalition, once told 15,000 people at a Religious Roundtable briefing in Dallas, "With all due respect to those dear people, my friend, God Almighty does not hear the prayer of a Jew."

 

Separation of Church and State:

 

- The State, Columbia, South Carolina, Nov. 14, 1993; "They have kept us in submission because they have talked about separation of church and state. There is no such thing in the Constitution. It's a lie of the left, and we're not going to take it anymore."

 

- The 700 Club, Dec. 30, 1981; "The Constitution of the United States, for instance, is a marvelous document for self-government by Christian people. But the minute you turn the document into the hands of non-Christian and atheistic people they can use it to destroy the very foundation of our society."

 

Tolerance

 

- The New World Order, (1991) p.227 ; "How can there be peace when drunkards, drug dealers, communists, atheists, New Age, worshipers of Satan, secular humanists, oppressive dictators, greedy moneychangers, revolutionary assassins, adulterers, and homosexuals are on top?"

 

- New York Magazine, August 18, 1986; "It is interesting, that termites don't build things, and the great builders of our nation almost to a man have been Christians, because Christians have the desire to build something. He is motivated by love of man and God, so he builds. The people who have come into [our] institutions [today] are primarily termites. They are into destroying institutions that have been built by Christians, whether it is universities, governments, our own traditions, that we have.... The termites are in charge now, and that is not the way it ought to be, and the time has arrived for a godly fumigation."

 

- The 700 Club, January 14, 1991; "You say you're supposed to be nice to the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians and the Methodists and this, that, and the other thing. Nonsense. I don't have to be nice to the spirit of the Antichrist. I can love the people who hold false opinions but I don't have to be nice to them"

 

- The 700 Club, 1992; "When lawlessness is abroad in the land, the same thing will happen here that happened in Nazi Germany. Many of those people involved in Adolf Hitler were Satanists, many of them were homosexuals -- the two things seem to go together."

 

Women

 

- The Washington Post, August 23, 1993; "(T)he feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians."

 

- Federal News Service, Sept. 11, 1992, quoting a Robertson newsletter; "I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household and the husband is the head of the wife, and that's the way it is, period."

 

- The 700 Club, May 22, 1986; "Why are so many marriages falling apart? Why is the divorce rate so high? ...Why is there such a tragedy in marriage?...Now the basic answer to the basic [problem of marriages today is a question of leadership. The wife actually makes the husband the head of the household and she looks to him and she says 'now you pray, and I'm going to pray for you that the Lord will speak to you."

 

- The State-Record, Columbia, SC, June 28, 1992; "(Robertson) chastised women legislators who support no-fault divorce laws that he says encourage men to split. 'Any woman who votes for no-fault divorce is like a turkey voting for Thanksgiving,' Robertson said, paraphrasing a conservative commentator."

 

Politics

 

- "Pat Robertson's Perspective," April - May 1992; "The strategy against the American radical left should be the same as General Douglas MacArthur employed against the Japanese in the Pacific . . . bypass their strongholds, then surround them, isolate them bombard them, then blast the individuals out of their power bunkers with hand-to-hand combat. The battle for Iwo Jima was not pleasant, but our troops won it. The battle to regain the soul of America won't be pleasant either, but we will win it."

 

- The Los Angeles Times, reprinted in The Religious Right: The Assault of Tolerance & Pluralism in America, produced by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL); "It's like guerrilla warfare....It's better to move quietly, with stealth, under cover of night. You've got two choices: You can wear cammies and shimmy along on your belly or you can put on a red coat and stand up for everyone to see. It comes down to whether you want to be the British army in the Revolutionary War or the Viet Cong. History tells us which tactic is more effective".

 

The Justice System

 

- The New World Order (1991), p. 231; "The potential savings in the national budgets from the elimination of police, criminal courts, standing armies, pollution control agencies, drug enforcement, and many poverty programs is almost beyond calculation."

 

- The 700 Club, Oct. 2, 1990; "The courts are merely a ruse, if you will, for humanist, atheistic educators to beat up on Christians."

 

- The Washington Post editorial board, June 27, 1986; "I am bound by the laws of the United States and all 50 states...I am not bound by any case or any court to which I myself am not a party...I don't think the Congress of the United States is subservient to the courts...They can ignore a Supreme Court ruling if they so choose."

[NUKE_CLEVELAND]

Nice. How about a Hammer - Robertson ticket in '08

 

 

That sounds like a recipie for a Democratic presidency.

 

PASS!