Pat Robertson calls for Chavez assasination

[NUKE_CLEVELAND]

Bottom line. Pat Robertson is a hypocrite and, like so many televangelists, has to make ever more outrageous statements so people keep talking about him. Pretty sad and pathetic if you ask me.

[JUGGERNAUT]

Tell me again how SOXTALK isn't oppressive to the devoutly religious.

Another thread proving it is.

 

The man said "take him out." When asked again he said something to the effect he meant "remove from office." Yet here you are crucifying him, comparing him to Bin Laden, & militant muslim clerics.

 

And you think you represent mainstream America? :rolly

 

Mainstream America doesn't even know about this. They see Robertson as a man who has devoted himself to spreading the Gospel & doing what he can to help people.

 

Mainstream America doesn't crucify the man in a sports message board.

 

Any normal person reading your posts would quickly come to the conclusion that this is a place where extreme left-leaning members try to bash everyone else. It doesn't help the situation when ALL of the mods lean the same direction as well.

Edited August 26, 2005 by JUGGERNAUT

[Steff]

Open door.. walk through it... close it behind you.

[Rex Kickass]

Tell me again how SOXTALK isn't oppressive to the devoutly religious. 

Another thread proving it is.

 

The man said "take him out."  When asked again he said something to the effect he meant "remove from office."  Yet here you are crucifying him, comparing him to Bin Laden, & militant muslim clerics. 

 

Show me some video where he said "take him out?" You can't because he said - if we think we're going to assasinate this guy, maybe we oughta just go ahead and do it.

 

Pat Robertson isn't devoutly religious. By the by. He's a devout businessman.

[FlaSoxxJim]

Pat Robertson isn't devoutly religious. By the by. He's a devout businessman.

 

He's devoted alright. Devoted to those Jeez-O-Bucks he still manages to scam little old ladies out of.

 

"That's right, you asked for it, remember there is a big difference

between kneeling down and bending over . . ."

--FZ

 

He's Got Twenty Million Dollars

In his Heavenly Bank Account . . .

All from those chumps who was

Born again

Oh yeah, oh yeah

 

He's got seven limousines

And a private plane . . .

All for the use of his

Special Friends

Oh yeah, oh yeah

 

He's got thousand-dollar suits

And a Wembley Tie . . .

Girls love to stroke it

While he's on the phone

Oh yeah, oh yeah

 

At the House of Representatives

He's a groovy guy . . .

When he Gives Thanks

He is not alone . . .

 

Hey, dig me – I'm a left-leaning jerk being unfair and intolerant of someone who's obviously a deeply spiritual man of God.

 

[LowerCaseRepublican]

Tell me again how SOXTALK isn't oppressive to the devoutly religious. 

Another thread proving it is.

 

The man said "take him out."  When asked again he said something to the effect he meant "remove from office."  Yet here you are crucifying him, comparing him to Bin Laden, & militant muslim clerics. 

 

And you think you represent mainstream America?  :rolly

 

Mainstream America doesn't even know about this.  They see Robertson as a man who has devoted himself to spreading the Gospel & doing what he can to help people. 

 

Mainstream America doesn't crucify the man in a sports message board. 

 

Any normal person reading your posts would quickly come to the conclusion that this is a place where extreme left-leaning members try to bash everyone else.  It doesn't help the situation when ALL of the mods lean the same direction as well.

 

The video of the event clearly shows him use the word "assassinate" no matter how much revisionism you want to use.

 

Mainstream America sees Robertson has a boob (even my right wing relatives think that) In fact, I haven't met a person who doesn't think Robertson is a boob.

 

And yes, I am equating Robertson with the fundie clerics that issue fatwas (or to steal a line from the Daily Show -- in this case a "pat"wa) because if Robertson was any other religion than Christian, he'd be openly condemned for his words from every place on the planet instead of trying to make excuses for him.

[JUGGERNAUT]

Please, that's ridiculous. If you believe that then you're ignorant. The sheer number of people that tune into the 700 club &/or devoutly follow the ministry that Robertson is a part of make your small circle of friends insignificant in comparison.

 

Mainstream America could care less about the statement & see him as a good man. If you doubt that go find a poll or something involving large numbers to counter it. What part of Bush's victory over Kerry did you not understand?

 

Now let's look at the statement (thanks to a poster):

"If we we're going to assasinate this guy, maybe we oughta just go ahead and do it."

 

It looks like I have to teach school again :rolly

 

It's clearly a hypothetical statement based on the assumption that we WILL

assasinate this guy eventually. All he's stating is that IF that is the case then let's do it now rather than later.

 

And this is not a right-wing thing or are you suggesting it's impossible for there to be a right-wing atheist? This is a religious thing. You are attacking an old man (of senile age) for saying something he shouldn't have on the air. Why? Because you don't like the man's ideology. :rolly

 

SOXTALK is an anti-religious environment which I continue to change. It's not about what my religion is or any one else's. It's about the posts. When someone writes a post in support of a religion there is a gang of members who will pounce on it. When it is clearly one-sided that's the sign of an anti-religious environment.

 

Well unlike some I've got balls the size of King Kong. I won't say I don't care what you have to say because by the nature of my responding to you it's evident I do. But I will say I'm not afraid of what you say. If you attack religion or spiritualism in any way you can expect me to combat you. Even if I'm the only one.

 

Considering I possess multiple degrees & a Phd in Computer Science I'm probably the most technocratic person in this community. Einstein believed in God & his faith was intensified as he surmised the possibilities of quantum theory. Newton believed in God & his faith was intensified as he surmised the possibilities of wave theory. So you can be extremely progressive in terms of science & technology & retain your faith in God.

Edited August 26, 2005 by JUGGERNAUT

[southsider2k5]

Supporting someone who supports murder ISN'T in support of Christianity. There are no exceptions to "Thou shalt not kill"

[Steff]

Supporting someone who supports murder ISN'T in support of Christianity.  There are no exceptions to "Thou shalt not kill"

 

 

 

There ya go being ignorant again... :rolly

[Texsox]

Supporting someone who supports murder ISN'T in support of Christianity.  There are no exceptions to "Thou shalt not kill"

 

Well some argue that if 7 of your peers decide you should die, and the government has a method that isn't "cruel and unusual", it's OK.

[southsider2k5]

There ya go being ignorant again...  :rolly

 

That's because despite being a devout Christian, I hate Christians, and do everything I can to make their lives on Soxtalk miserable.

[FlaSoxxJim]

That's because despite being a devout Christian, I hate Christians, and do everything I can to make their lives on Soxtalk miserable.

You're so conflicted.

 

Well, getting away from that left-leaning den of Admins and Mods is a step in the right direction.

[southsider2k5]

You're so conflicted. 

 

Well, getting away from that left-leaning den of Admins and Mods is a step in the right direction. 

 

Well obviously that's why I had to quit

[JUGGERNAUT]

Supporting someone who supports murder ISN'T in support of Christianity.  There are no exceptions to "Thou shalt not kill"

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The death penalty is a form of murder. Yet many Christians including judges & politicians support it. Why? Because the life of one murderer is not worth the potential cost in lives of innoncent victims.

 

I've weighed in on the death penalty before. I'm against it. I believe science can benefit from studying such people & putting them to some practical use. So I'm in favor of expensing the lowest cost possible to maintain their life instead.

 

A man in power who's policies represent a grave threat to American's lives & America's national security can be dealt with in only 2 ways:

1) diplomatic - try to buy him off with concessions to his policies

2) force - try to remove him from power

 

That's the real world. War is justifiable in self-defense. It is morally justifiable to act first to remove the bat from a person's hand before he bashes your face in with it.

 

That's because despite being a devout Christian, I hate Christians, and do everything I can to make their lives on Soxtalk miserable.

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Claiming to be devout & demonstrating your devotion are two entirely different things. What you write is who you are as far as the forum goes.

Edited August 26, 2005 by JUGGERNAUT

[Texsox]

That's because despite being a devout Christian, I hate Christians, and do everything I can to make their lives on Soxtalk miserable.

Oh, you are one of those self hating Christians . . .

[FlaSoxxJim]

It is morally justifiable to act first to remove the bat from a person's hand before he bashes your face in with it.

 

And here I was under the impression you didn't understand why some of us feel the need to take it to the UberChristians. Justifiable self-defense.

[FlaSoxxJim]

Oh, you are one of those self hating Christians . . .

That would be a Roman Catholic.

[Steff]

Wow.. that was the fastest 180 I've seen in a long time..

 

I predict a wind shift in.... 5...4....3....2.....

[JUGGERNAUT]

Is SOXTALK an anti-religious environment? Read this thread to decide :rolly

[southsider2k5]

Claiming to be devout & demonstrating your devotion are two entirely different things.

 

This might be the first thing I think I might have ever actually agreed with you on. Too bad it is the exact opposite of the way you intended it. I still have yet to see you demostrate any love to any of the people that you routinely talk down to and about on here.

[FlaSoxxJim]

I need to quickly clear up a popular Hollywood myth:

Edited August 26, 2005 by FlaSoxxJim

[Wong & Owens]

Is SOXTALK an anti-religious environment?  Read this thread to decide :rolly

 

 

Nothing about this thread is even remotely anti-religion. Pointing out the hypocrisy of his many ridiculous statement is simply an easy way to support the argument that Pat Robertson is a waste of oxygen. If Pat Robertson was Robert Sherman, for example, he'd be every bit a loathesome jackass.

 

Of course, if you're so sure that this thread, and so much else within SoxTalk is anti-religion, then I'm sure the many religious folk here will be sure to back you up any moment now.

 

 

 

 

 

 

**crickets**

[LowerCaseRepublican]

https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/parthun/shared/Th...t-Robertson.wmv

 

The Daily Show takes on Pat Robertson and his Chavez stuff. Pretty funny stuff.

[Rex Kickass]

The 700 Club reaches - by their (in my opinion) generous guess, about one million people.

 

If mainstream America consists of just one million people, well I'd be a bit surprised.

 

Let me put it to you this way, more people watch Pat Robertson guesting on Fox News (who called him a "has-been" this past week) than actually watch Pat Robertson.

[JUGGERNAUT]

Nothing about this thread is even remotely anti-religion.  Pointing out the hypocrisy of his many ridiculous statement is simply an easy way to support the argument that Pat Robertson is a waste of oxygen.  If Pat Robertson was Robert Sherman, for example, he'd be every bit a loathesome jackass. 

 

Of course, if you're so sure that this thread, and so much else within SoxTalk is anti-religion, then I'm sure the many religious folk here will be sure to back you up any moment now. 

**crickets**

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http://withchrist.org/catholic.htm

Post-modernist Catholics (the most likely class for the many religious folk you refer to) are a growing minority. They are not representative of the majority or the mainstream.

 

You can easily replace Catholic with any other religion and generally speaking the classifications would still apply.