fantasy football

[southsideirish]

Please give me your opinion of who you think is the best team out of these 10. Thanks!!!!!!!! 75 percent TD 25 percent yardage. WR/TE flex position.

 

TEAM 1

QB C. Palmer (CIN)

WR N. Burleson (MIN)

WR S. Smith (CAR)

RB W. McGahee (BUF)

RB A. Green (GB)

W/T L. Evans (BUF)

K S. Janikowski (OAK)

DEF Carolina (Car - DEF)

 

BN A. Johnson (HOU)

BN C. Portis (WAS)

BN C. Brown (TEN)

BN L. Suggs (CLE)

BN C. Pennington (NYJ)

BN M. Robinson (MIN)

 

TEAM 2

QB D. McNabb (Phi - QB)

WR D. Bennett (Ten - WR)

WR Ji. Smith(Jac - WR)

RB E. James (Ind - RB)

RB D. Staley (Pit - RB)

W/T A. Gates (SD - TE)

K M. Vanderjagt

DEF Indianapolis (Ind - DEF)

 

BN M. Vick (Atl - QB)

BN Ro. Smith (Den - WR)

BN R. Droughns(Cle - RB)

BN C. Rogers (Det - WR)

BN M. Alstott (TB - RB)

BN R. Longwell (GB - K)

 

TEAM 3

QB D. Culpepper(Min - QB)

WR A. Boldin (Ari - WR)

WR Mi. Clayton (TB - WR)

RB C. Dillon (NE - RB)

RB T. Bell (Den - RB)

W/T T. Gonzalez (KC - TE)

K A. Vinatieri (NE - K)

DEF Atlanta (Atl - DEF)

 

BN A. Brooks (NO - QB)

BN J. Shockey

BN D. Branch(NE - WR)

BN M. Faulk (StL - RB)

BN L. Tynes (KC - K)

BN Tampa Bay(TB - DEF)

 

Team 4

QB T. Green (KC - QB)

WR M. Harrison (Ind - WR)

WR J. Porter (Oak - WR)

RB D. Davis (Hou - RB)

RB S. Jackson (StL - RB)

W/T A. Lelie (Den - WR)

K J. Wilkins (StL - K)

DEF Philadelphia (Phi - DEF)

 

BN D. Foster (Car - RB)

BN K. Barlow (SF - RB)

BN S. McNair (Ten - QB)

BN T. Heap (Bal - TE)

BN R. Williams(Mia - RB)

BN Ke. Johnson (Dal - WR)

 

Team 5

QB B. Favre (GB - QB)

WR T. Holt (StL - WR)

WR D. Driver (GB - WR)

RB D. McAllister (NO - RB)

RB B. Westbrook (Phi - RB)

W/T A. Crumpler (Atl - TE)

K M. Stover (Bal - K)

DEF New England (NE - DEF)

 

BN J. Arrington (Ari - RB)

BN S. Moss (Was - WR)

BN T. Duckett (Atl - RB)

BN T. Houshmandzadeh (Cin - WR)

BN B. Griese (TB - QB)

BN C. Cooley (Was - RB,TE)

 

Team 6

QB P. Manning (Ind - QB)

WR C. Johnson (Cin - WR)

WR H. Ward (Pit - WR)

RB C. Martin (NYJ - RB)

RB M. Bennett (Min - RB)

W/T E. Kennison (KC - WR)

K N. Kaeding (SD - K)

DEF New York (NYJ - DEF)

 

BN F. Taylor (Jac - RB)

BN R. Caldwell (SD - WR)

BN D. Brees (SD - QB)

BN T. Jones (Chi - RB)

BN Da. Clark (Ind - TE)

BN J. Harrington (Det - QB)

 

Team 7

QB M. Hasselbeck (Sea - QB)

WR J. Walker (GB - WR)

WR D. Jackson (Sea - WR)

RB S. Alexander (Sea - RB)

RB R. Johnson (Cin - RB)

W/T I. Bruce (StL - WR)

K J. Reed (Pit - K)

DEF Pittsburgh (Pit - DEF)

 

BN L. Jordan (Oak - RB)

BN L. Fitzgerald (Ari - WR)

BN J. Plummer (Den - QB)

BN D. Mason (Bal - WR)

BN M. Anderson (Den - RB)

BN M. Pittman (TB - RB)

 

Team 8

QB K. Collins (Oak - QB)

WR T. Owens (Phi - WR)

WR Ro. Williams(Det - WR)

RB L. Tomlinson (SD - RB)

RB K. Jones (Det - RB)

W/T P. Burress (NYG - WR)

K M. Nugent (NYJ - K)

DEF Buffalo (Buf - DEF)

 

BN C. Williams (TB - RB)

BN L. Johnson (KC - RB)

BN R. Brown (Mia - RB)

BN M. Moore (Min - RB)

BN J. McCareins (NYJ - WR)

BN B. Leftwich (Jac - QB)

 

Team 9

QB M. Bulger (StL - QB)

WR R. Moss (Oak - WR)

WR J. Horn (NO - WR)

RB J. Lewis (Bal - RB)

RB J. Jones (Dal - RB)

W/T L. Coles (NYJ - WR)

K J. Elam (Den - K)

DEF Baltimore (Bal - DEF)

 

BN J. Witten (Dal - TE)

BN J. Delhomme (Car - QB)

BN J. Bettis (Pit - RB)

BN B. Stokley (Ind - WR)

BN S. Graham (Cin - K)

BN Seattle (Sea - DEF)

 

Team 10

QB T. Brady (NE - QB)

WR R. Wayne (Ind - WR)

WR C. Chambers (Mia - WR)

RB P. Holmes (KC - RB)

RB T. Barber (NYG - RB)

W/T E. Moulds (Buf - WR)

K D. Akers (Phi - K)

DEF New York (NYG - DEF)

 

BN W. Dunn (Atl - RB)

BN M. Muhammad (Chi - WR)

BN C. Benson (Chi - RB)

BN B. Edwards (Cle - WR)

BN B. Roethlisberger (Pit - QB)

BN J. Fargas (Oak - RB)

[knightni]

Team #9 1st, IMO.

Team #4 2nd.

Team #3 3rd.

 

I take it that you are team #10.

[SoxFan1]

1) team 9

2) team 3

3) team 5

[ZoomSlowik]

None of the teams exactly bowl me over. 9 looks pretty good if Lewis stays healthy. 8 IMO has the best starting RB's/WR's, although I'm not a huge fan of the backups, D, or kicker, and although I think Collin's numbers will improve with Moss, there are still better QB's. Team 6 has 2 good WR, Martin lead the league in rushing last season, I think he'll be passable at the other RB spot between Jones and Bennett, and Manning is a plus, although I'm not thrilled with the rest of the team. 3 looks to be another decent RB short of a solid team too, we'll see about the whole Denver backfield situation. 4 looks decent too if Jackson lives up to potential. 5 is okay too, but I don't like the depth, and Westbrook doesn't thrill me as a #2 back.

 

So to summarize:

 

1- Team 9

2- Team 6

3- Team 8

4- Team 4

5- Team 3

 

Edit- missed the 75-25 TD's scoring. That leads me to push 8 over 6 because the guys on team 6 (outside of Manning) aren't exactly TD machines, while Tomlinson and Owens are.

Edited August 26, 2005 by ZoomSlowik

[southsideirish]

QUOTE(knightni @ Aug 26, 2005 -> 03:22 AM)

Team #9 1st, IMO.

Team #4 2nd.

Team #3 3rd.

 

I take it that you are team #10.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

I am team number 8 and I really don't see how any of those teams are better than mine. Kerry Collins should throw plenty of TDs. LaDanian, Kevin Jones, Cadillac Williams, Ronnie Brown, Larry Johnson, and Mewelde Moore are without a doubt the best stable of RBs in the league. Terrell Owens, Roy Williams, Plaxico Burress, and Justin McCairens can match up with anyone's wideouts, and you don't need to fill the TE spot in this league. Buffalo Bills defense is a top defense. Kicker who cares. I really don't know what you are looking at to list 3 teams ahead of that one.

[southsideirish]

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Aug 26, 2005 -> 04:49 AM)

None of the teams exactly bowl me over. 9 looks pretty good if Lewis stays healthy. 8 IMO has the best starting RB's/WR's, although I'm not a huge fan of the backups, D, or kicker, and although I think Collin's numbers will improve with Moss, there are still better QB's. Team 6 has 2 good WR, Martin lead the league in rushing last season, I think he'll be passable at the other RB spot between Jones and Bennett, and Manning is a plus, although I'm not thrilled with the rest of the team. 3 looks to be another decent RB short of a solid team too, we'll see about the whole Denver backfield situation. 4 looks decent too if Jackson lives up to potential. 5 is okay too, but I don't like the depth, and Westbrook doesn't thrill me as a #2 back.

 

So to summarize:

 

1- Team 9

2- Team 6

3- Team 8

4- Team 4

5- Team 3

 

Edit- missed the 75-25 TD's scoring. That leads me to push 8 over 6 because the guys on team 6 (outside of Manning) aren't exactly TD machines, while Tomlinson and Owens are.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

I agree there are definitely better QBs than Collins. I couldn't understand why QBs were flying off the board so early, but that will also explain why I have the WRs and RBs that I have, which I think will put me over the top. Collins should be more than adequate and maybe even Leftwich can do something with those young WRs he has.

 

2 QBs in the first round when I picked LaDanian (1st overall)

Manning went 2nd overall

Culpepper went 10th overall

 

1 QB in the 2nd round when I picked Kevin Jones (20 overall)

McNabb went 16th overall

 

1 QB picked in 3rd round when I picked Terrell Owens (21 overall)

Brett Favre went 28th overall

 

2 QBs picked in the 4th round when I picked Roy Williams (40 overall)

Trent Green went 32nd overall

Tom Brady went 37th overall

 

1 QB picked in the 5th round when I picked Cadillac Williams (41 overall)

Marc Bulger went 47th overall

 

All of those QBs went way earlier than I had seen them go in any previous mock draft. I even had to take Kerry Collins earlier than I would have liked just because it didn't look lke I would have had anyone at all and he was the last one that I liked. I finally picked Kerry Collins with the last pick in the 6th round after 7 other QBs were picked. Is he the 8th best QB in the league? I would say with the addition of Randy Moss there is no doubt that he is at least the 8th best. I am scared of Hasselbeck with no WRs. Vick doesn't get many TDs. Palmer is a nice QB but still young. Delhomme is good but only has Steve Smith and an unproven Keary Colbert. I just think Kerry Collins could throw for a lot more TDs than those guys. I could be wrong, but we will see during the season how it plays out.

 

(1) Peyton Manning - 2nd overall

 

(2) Daunte Culpepper - 10th overall

 

(3) Donovan McNabb - 16th overall WOW!

 

(4) Brett Favre - 28th overall WOW!

 

(5) Trent Green - 32nd overall, I can see this in a heavy TD scoring league, but still high

 

(6) Tom Brady - 37th overall WOW!, I have never seen him drafted higher than the 6th round

 

(7) Marc Bulger - 47th overall, I guess this is where he should go and I would have taken him if he was there when he came back around. I just couldn't pass up a back like Cadillac Williams at 41. I haven't seen a mock draft where he gets out of the 4th round and I got him with the first pick in the 5th.

 

(8) Kerry Collins - 60th overall, which is where he should go in this format. I have seen him go higher and I have seen him drafted lower all depending on the format. I have a good feeling about him with Moss, Porter, Jordan, Gabriel and Curry to throw to. It should be a high flying offense. He didn't even play in the first 2.5 games last year and still threw for 3500 yards and 21 TDs. Add in the 2.5 games with those averages he had and he would have had 4150 and 24 TDs. Doesn't Moss add in at least 6 to 9 more TDs, if not more to his total? Just to show what an awesome WR can do for your totals, look at McNabb. He posted 500 more yards than his previous high and 6 more TDs than his previous high with Owens. That and the 2.5 more games would place Collins at the 4500 yard, 30 TD mark. Plus the Raider defense is awful and the Raiders play against some of the worst pass defenses in the league in KC, SD, and Denver. They will most likely be playing catch up against some weak pass defenses. Where does 4,000 yards and 30 TDs place a QB? Top 5? Top 3?

 

(1) Manning - no one compares 4557 yards and 49 TDs

 

(2) Culpepper - 4717 yards and 39 TDs. Stats should drop with the loss of Moss and as they go to more of a rushing and defense attack, but he is still very good.

 

(3) McNabb 3875 yards and 34 OVERALL TDs. The 230 rushing yards doesnt help in this format.

 

(5) Trent Green with 4591 yards and 27 TDs.

 

(4) Favre with 4088 yards and 30 TDs.

 

(6) Brady 3692 yards and 28 TDs.

 

(7) Bulger 3964 yards and 21 TDs and has also never thrown for more than 22 TDs and has been working with a lot better options than Kerry Collins has over the years.

 

(8) Collins, so again I ask, where would 4000 yards and 30 TDs place Collins? Top 3-5? It is very possible for him to reach those numbers.

Edited August 26, 2005 by southsideirish

[ZoomSlowik]

I definitely see your points. I'm not a big fan of Bulger, and those other guys went early. I guess Cadallac is a good pick, although I generally don't like rookie backs. I'm surprised you snagged him there after the argument we got into last year. I might have grabbed another receiver, although it's hard to argue with a starting RB in round 5. You're right, kickers don't matter except for maybe the top 1 or 2. I'm not as sold on Buffalo's D, but oh well. You're in good shape with Tomlinson, Jones, Owens, and Williams, so I wouldn't worry about it.

[AirScott]

I just figure I'll critque you're team. I would have stayed away from the Detroit guys (Williams and Jones) because there's not enough to go around. On second thought, Jones is a good decision, teams will always have to respect their passing game, so the only selection I have a problem with is Williams. still, Collins will make or break your team, because like Bill Simmons' column said today, Collins' always has the highest ceiling and lowest basement. but having Randy Moss should make Collins look a little like Peyton Manning this year.

[southsideirish]

QUOTE(AirScott @ Aug 27, 2005 -> 12:59 AM)

I just figure I'll critque you're team.  I would have stayed away from the Detroit guys (Williams and Jones) because there's not enough to go around.  On second thought, Jones is a good decision, teams will always have to respect their passing game, so the only selection I have a problem with is Williams.  still, Collins will make or break your team, because like Bill Simmons' column said today, Collins' always has the highest ceiling and lowest basement.  but having Randy Moss should make Collins look a little like Peyton Manning this year.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

Thank you for your critique. I understand your concern for Roy Williams, but did you see him play last year? He was a stud when healthy as a rookie. Kevin Jones outperformed every running back in the 2nd half last year as a rookie. Why is there not enough to go around? There is not enough to go around between a starting RB and a number 1 WR in an offense? I find this hard to beleive. Roy Williams is clearly the best WR on that team and I don't even count on Charles Rogers staying healthy the whole season or Mike WIlliams making that big of an impact as a rookie. I think those 2 Detroit guys are the least of my concern. I am more worried about my 3rd receiver spot than anything. I am hoping one of Plaxico or McCairens comes through or I am able to trade one of my RBs for a stud WR. Kerry Collins may or may not make or break my team. I just can't see another QB after McNabb was taken with as much going for him as Collins does. You can read above why I think Collins will be very good this year. I don't see how Collins has the lowest basement. I see Vick as this type of player. I think Collins will either be very good or just mediocre, not even close to terrible. Bill Simmons is usually wrong in every argument he tries to make. He just likes to blab. That being said he had him listed at 35 and I got him at 60. He had him as the 4th best QB and I drafted him as the 8th best. I think I got a great deal and picked up much better players instead of wasting a higher pick on a QB. I was able to pick up LT, Kevin Jones, Terrell Owens, Roy Williams, and Cadillac Williams while others were grabbing QBs.

Edited August 27, 2005 by southsideirish