fathom Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 QUOTE(greg775 @ Aug 27, 2005 -> 04:16 AM) We're still gonna win (knock on wood) and Oz's faith in El Duque may pay off when it counts ... in the playoffs! I heard Hawk say that big picture comment, and that's absolutely ridiculous. You need to make the playoffs before you can start planning the playoffs. If we were to lose this game tonight, a 7 game lead isn't a sure thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 Good at-bat AJP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 I still can't understand how people can say Ozzie is a good manager. He's a good cheerleader, terrible manager. He is a good manager. To lead a team with a lot of deficiencies with this kinda record means he's doing a good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceffa2000 Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 Usually Ozzie is obsessed with getting his players a win but I don't get that move. He is not a complete game pitcher. Use the bullpen, thats what its there for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 QUOTE(greg775 @ Aug 26, 2005 -> 11:18 PM) I still can't understand how people can say Ozzie is a good manager. He's a good cheerleader, terrible manager. He is a good manager. To lead a team with a lot of deficiencies with this kinda record means he's doing a good job. i give credit to ozzie for getting KW to buy into his philosphy and change the outlook on this team. that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 QUOTE(ceffa2000 @ Aug 27, 2005 -> 04:19 AM) Usually Ozzie is obsessed with getting his players a win but I don't get that move. He is not a complete game pitcher. Use the bullpen, thats what its there for. Exactly. Ozzie doesn't trust our bullpen. I've been saying it for the last two months now. Cotts/Cliff/Hermanson/Jenks deserve the right to get the last 6 outs of a game for this team to win. We're not the Diamondbacks where we need the starting pitcher to go as many innings as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 What was the problem leaving Duque in for Bloomquist? He was cruising, and hung a pitch. It happens. Maybe shouldn't have left him in for Ibanez, but I see no reason why he shouldn't pitch to Bloom... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 I heard Hawk say that big picture comment, and that's absolutely ridiculous. You need to make the playoffs before you can start planning the playoffs. If we were to lose this game tonight, a 7 game lead isn't a sure thing. I think Hawk knows a little baseball. How do you know our relief corps would have gotten out of the inning. It's easy to second guess, but the game is still tied and we still should win the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That funky motion Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 It seems like he is saving th ebullpen for something. Maybe the double header in Texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Aug 27, 2005 -> 04:20 AM) What was the problem leaving Duque in for Bloomquist? He was cruising, and hung a pitch. It happens. Maybe shouldn't have left him in for Ibanez, but I see no reason why he shouldn't pitch to Bloom... Duque is not the type of pitcher to go 8 innings. The more the other team sees him, the more they get used to his delivery. We have a guy in our bullpen who hasn't allowed a run in nearly 20 outings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceffa2000 Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 QUOTE(That funky motion @ Aug 26, 2005 -> 11:20 PM) It seems like he is saving th ebullpen for something. Maybe the double header in Texas. One. Game. at a Time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 QUOTE(ceffa2000 @ Aug 26, 2005 -> 10:19 PM) Usually Ozzie is obsessed with getting his players a win but I don't get that move. He is not a complete game pitcher. Use the bullpen, thats what its there for. That's exactly what i was thinking when ozzie left El Duque in for the 8th inning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 QUOTE(greg775 @ Aug 27, 2005 -> 04:20 AM) \ I think Hawk knows a little baseball. How do you know our relief corps would have gotten out of the inning. It's easy to second guess, but the game is still tied and we still should win the game. Second guess? There were plenty on here begging for Duque not to start the 8th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Aug 27, 2005 -> 02:21 PM) That's exactly what i was thinking when ozzie left El Duque in for the 8th inning. Probably with the way the pen pitched in Minny, that prob left a little bit of doubt in Ozzie's mind that they would get the job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 Wow, Dye had a great pitch to hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Aug 26, 2005 -> 11:20 PM) What was the problem leaving Duque in for Bloomquist? He was cruising, and hung a pitch. It happens. Maybe shouldn't have left him in for Ibanez, but I see no reason why he shouldn't pitch to Bloom... Shouldn't have even faced Ichiro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Aug 27, 2005 -> 04:22 AM) Probably with the way the pen pitched in Minny, that prob left a little bit of doubt in Ozzie's mind that they would get the job done. Yeah, I have a feeling you're right. Still, what did Cotts do to piss someone off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 Way to get it done there Dye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFirebird Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Aug 26, 2005 -> 10:20 PM) What was the problem leaving Duque in for Bloomquist? He was cruising, and hung a pitch. It happens. Maybe shouldn't have left him in for Ibanez, but I see no reason why he shouldn't pitch to Bloom... i agree....pitchers hang pitches..it happens...let ozzie manage his game...it is easy for us to do it..we cant get fired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 Blum doing his best Crede impression there. I actually was confident he'd put a good swing on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 Blum is not a good offensive player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 I really hope we don't see Hermanson today. Don't be a complete ass, Ozzie. You already used Duque for 8 innings when his arm is about to fall off. You don't need to use Hermy with his terrible back for the 3rd day in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceffa2000 Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 Yeah, but he's still hitting better than Crede Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 26, 2005 -> 11:23 PM) Yeah, I have a feeling you're right. Still, what did Cotts do to piss someone off? he didn't cut his hair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 Uribe is just flying off of the ball. That 1-1 pitch was a great pitch to hit. We need him to hit a flare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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