Texsox Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 02:35 PM) O.K., I stand corrected on his being the first to use the race issue. I apologize for being wrong. But Moore is still an ass. I wasn't trying to prove you wrong, just pointing out this happens from the very first rain drops. Race is always the undercurrent of all things in this society. Some citizens will tell you, with 100% certainty in their convictions, that if those were white people on their roofs, help would have come sooner. Some citizens will tell you, again with 100% certainty in their convictions, that if those were white people on their roofs, help would have come in the same amount of time. Sadly some would also say that white people wouldn't have shot at helicopters, would have evacuated, would not have looted, and all sorts of nonsense like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Police outnumbered and outgunned Overnight, police snipers were stationed on the roof of their precinct, trying to protect it from gunmen roaming through the city, CNN's Chris Lawrence reported. One New Orleans police sergeant compared the situation to Somalia and said officers were outnumbered and outgunned by gangs in trucks. "It's a war zone, and they're not treating it like one," he said, referring to the federal government. (Watch the video report on explosions and gunfire -- 2:12) The officer hitched a ride to Baton Rouge Friday morning, after working 60 hours straight in the flooded city. He has not decided whether he will return. He broke down in tears when he described the deaths of his fellow officers, saying many had drowned doing their jobs. Other officers have turned in their badges as the situation continues to deteriorate. In one incident, the sergeant said gunmen fired rifles and AK-47s at the helicopters flying overhead. He said he saw bodies riddled with bullet holes, and the top of one man's head completely shot off. Lt. Gen Steven Blum of the National Guard said that as many as 2,600 National Guard troops were expected to arrive in Louisiana Friday to join the nearly 2,000 who went in Thursday. http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/katrina.impact/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Gleason Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 QUOTE(Texsox @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 01:39 PM) I wasn't trying to prove you wrong... I know. I wasn't trying to imply you were, and I was serious with the apology. I guess it was towards a Mike Moore who isn't reading. Prick that he is. I also agree with you that race will always play a card. Whether it be truth or fiction, it will always be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxjr27 Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 heres a little gem from jesse jackson. Jackson questioned why Bush has not named blacks to top positions in the federal response to the disaster, particularly when the majority of victims remaining stranded in New Orleans are black: "How can blacks be locked out of the leadership, and trapped in the suffering?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(whitesoxjr27 @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 03:09 PM) heres a little gem from jesse jackson. Jackson questioned why Bush has not named blacks to top positions in the federal response to the disaster, particularly when the majority of victims remaining stranded in New Orleans are black: "How can blacks be locked out of the leadership, and trapped in the suffering?" what else would you expect him to say? something relevant? that's not his style Edited September 2, 2005 by SnB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Nice sound bite Jesse. I doubt someone who is trapped in their attic gives a rip what color the rescuer or the leadership is. Meanwhile, out in the country Linked here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxjr27 Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 one more little gem for ya. Racism is partly to blame for the deadly aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, the Rev. Jesse Jackson said, calling President Bush's response to the disaster "incompetent." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 QUOTE(whitesoxjr27 @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 03:15 PM) one more little gem for ya. Racism is partly to blame for the deadly aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, the Rev. Jesse Jackson said, calling President Bush's response to the disaster "incompetent." well it has been incompetent... so im not sure what the problem is there but seriously this is starting to get dumb - lets stop complaining about douche bags like moore, there are more important things going on than idiots talking about race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Gleason Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(Reddy @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 02:18 PM) ... idiots talking about race. A gathering for NASCAR? Edited September 2, 2005 by Kid Gleason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 03:19 PM) A gathering for NASCAR? LMAO... Just what this thread needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 03:19 PM) A gathering for NASCAR? nice. very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Gonna toot a horn a bit here.. My son-in-laws trailer is already in route to LSU filled with supplies. Jim also coordinated 2 trailers out of Florida, and one is currently being loaded at the Sams Club down Mannheim Road and will leave tomorrow. Another will be loaded here at corporate with employee donations and will leave on Wednesday morning. The donations coming in are amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 06:24 PM) So lets take some guns and shoot at the people helping us. That helps out the relief effort. Put down the guns, stop looting or trying to take people hostage and it will only help the situation out. But to just say oh well, its the self preservation or whatever is a bit of a reach. We are human because of our capability for emotions and morals. As I said, I certainly don't condone it...but after YOU'VE been without food or water in a dome with people who are dead or dying with no working plumbing and see no help in sight...I'd think some people would do some crazy things just to get noticed. Now, I know that there are bad elements everywhere, but some people are just freaked out and feel alone, which, up until this point, they have been. I don't know where you are, but you aren't in New Orleans. So for you to say... So lets take some guns and shoot at the people helping us. That helps out the relief effort. ...is kinda cold, if you ask me...which you didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Oh God.. I don't know if this is true... From the blog someone claiming "breaking news" "A bus, carrying evacuees, flipped over just minutes ago. It occurred 18 miles north. of Lafayette in Opelousas, LA. It's unknown how many evacuees were on the bus or the extent of injuries. It's believed the bus was headed to Dallas." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 I just can't fathom 20K people marching from the Superdome to the convention center -- as told to do by the mayor -- and arriving to find that NO ONE IS IN CHARGE. No cops, no officials, no water, no food, no power, stifling heat. I think it's pretty easy to see how things might slip into chaos rather quickly. How could it not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/katrina.response/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 For anyone interested. I know most of you are Southsiders or suburbanites, but here is information for anyone who might be ineterested: Emergency Supplies Needed for Victims of Hurricane Katrina Lincoln Park Market (2500 North Clark Street) is accepting donations of emergency supplies to leave for the flood ravaged Gulf Coast until Sunday afternoon at 2:00pm. Mack trucks will load at this location (among others) before beginning the road trip. I encourage everyone to drop-off any of the supplies listed below at your earliest convenience. If there are sufficient items another truck will come by on Monday morning. Thank you for your generosity. Items needed: Sheets Pillows/Pillow cases Towels Air Mattresses Tooth Brushes/Paste Soap Shampoo Feminine Hygiene Products Deodorant Formula Diapers Baby Bottles Baby Food Portable Pans Plastic Bags Flashlights Batteries Clothes Canned Foods Toys Tents Thank you for all of your contributions to assist people affected by this devastation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 I don't have any clue how this works.. but apparently if you have iTunes you can listen to the police communications down there... http://ev1helps.net:8080/lspbtr.m3u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 QUOTE(TheDybber @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 02:55 PM) As I said, I certainly don't condone it...but after YOU'VE been without food or water in a dome with people who are dead or dying with no working plumbing and see no help in sight...I'd think some people would do some crazy things just to get noticed. Now, I know that there are bad elements everywhere, but some people are just freaked out and feel alone, which, up until this point, they have been. I don't know where you are, but you aren't in New Orleans. So for you to say... ...is kinda cold, if you ask me...which you didn't. First of all this is an open discourse on a message board. Point and counter point can be debated. To get noticed? This is simple to just say that when presented with a fight or flight issue that it is the animal nature of humans that takes over. I understand the primal needs of humans, and the fight for survival. It however doesnt tell us why people are shooting at the people dropping food down. Or that when the food is dropped the gangs are stealing most of it, and leaving the young and the ederly only with scraps. Can you explain how being hungry or thirsty or scared automatically equals children and women getting raped. Or instead of looting for food, you loot for jewerly, tv's, computers, etc. I am sure there are lots of people scared, and for them I feel terrible and heartbroken. But the worst part of this is after having to deal with all of that, these people have to deal with a group of pedators who are using this as an opportunity for anarchy, rape and murder. My point in my post was to point out the human tragedy and how a few would use it to be predators. We have these people who lurk in our society that feel a need to infllict pain on the weak. My disgust goes to those who hurt this poor people. The people who hurt others in this tragedy do not deserve pity or mercy when law enforcement or the military gets ahold of them. It is so sad to see people in such misery. I hope that they can be rescued soon enough. Let the aid workers help out and bring aid and comfort to these people. Any violent action will only slow down this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted September 2, 2005 Author Share Posted September 2, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 05:03 PM) I don't have any clue how this works.. but apparently if you have iTunes you can listen to the police communications down there... http://ev1helps.net:8080/lspbtr.m3u I think it's the Louisiana State Patrol. It works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 05:04 PM) I think it's the Louisiana State Patrol. It works. Are you listening...??? Someone said that snipers have taken control of the Bell South building and are holding fire fighters hostage..??? Also.. United Airlines is giving free flights to those that can get to operational airports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted September 2, 2005 Author Share Posted September 2, 2005 I listened to it for a little bit but it was unintelligble when I was listening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Its official, I hate politicians. I don't give a crap about the speeches. The mayor, the governor, the President, Senators, and Representatives all stood up there and talked. STFU, grab a shovel and fill sandbags, or go to a distribution point and hand out food and water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 all i could think of was: "Oh, tell me, how many roads must a man walk down Before you call him a man" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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