Cedric Benson finally signed

[hammerhead johnson]

Well I like it mostly except for some changes.. Chris Brown, Domanick Davis, Westbrook, and Steven Jackson up a level.

 

Deshaun Foster and Marshall Faul down a level... Jackson is starting over faulk this year.

 

Also Willis McGahee shouldnt be an the elite if julius and kevin jones arent.  And some could argue putting Jordan up a level with the kind of offense Oakland is having but I dont mind where you put him.

 

On a sidenote I agree I wouldnt really be surprised if the Redskins beat us.  But a lot of people outside of Bears fans think we are a bad team and I dont really agree with that.... Im expecting at least 7 wins and if Kyle Orton isnt 2 bad i wouldnt be surprised with 10-11.  Although what im really expecting is a 8-8 or 9-7 season.

 

You think that Steven Jackson is a second tier caliber back? I think that he is made to look better than he actually is due to the fact that they have a damn good O-Line and an absolutely terrific WR core in St. Louis. Therefore, teams don't really focus as much on a Stephen Jackson as they would for a McGahee or somebody like that when trying to come up with a game plan.

 

Damn, has Marshall Faulk fallen that far in the RB rankings? He's old and injuries have taken their toll, but I'd still have to put him in the second tier. I could be completely wrong about that.

 

Chris Brown and Domanick Davis have definitely shown flashes. I'd put them at the top of the adequate-to-solid list.

 

I also think that DeShaun Foster might be the most underrated RB in the NFL.

[SleepyWhiteSox]

Damn, has Marshall Faulk fallen that far in the RB rankings?  He's old and injuries have taken their toll, but I'd still have to put him in the second tier.  I could be completely wrong about that.

 

 

 

Yeah, Stephen Jackson is their clear-cut go-to RB at this point.

[hammerhead johnson]

Yeah, Stephen Jackson is their clear-cut go-to RB at this point.

 

That should definitely be a formidable 1-2 punch, kind of like what the Chiefs have in Holmes/Johnson and what the Bears could have in Benson/Jones.

[SleepyWhiteSox]

and what the Bears could have in Benson/Jones.

 

I sure as hell hope so...

[jackie hayes]

You think that Steven Jackson is a second tier caliber back?  I think that he is made to look better than he actually is due to the fact that they have a damn good O-Line and an absolutely terrific WR core in St. Louis.  Therefore, teams don't really focus as much on a Stephen Jackson as they would for a McGahee or somebody like that when trying to come up with a game plan.

 

Damn, has Marshall Faulk fallen that far in the RB rankings?  He's old and injuries have taken their toll, but I'd still have to put him in the second tier.  I could be completely wrong about that.

I gotta say, Faulk was the name that jumped out at me too. All the reasons you think Jackson isn't that good, don't they make Faulk's troubles seem even worse?

 

As for Benson, I'm glad he signed. I had actually come around to thinking he'd just wait out the year. But I don't mind seeing him on the bottom of the depth chart as long as Jones and Peterson are getting it done.

[hammerhead johnson]

I gotta say, Faulk was the name that jumped out at me too.  All the reasons you think Jackson isn't that good, don't they make Faulk's troubles seem even worse?

 

Faulk's got that one-in-a-million type elusiveness though, you know? He's one of the best RBs of all time. And I know that 32 is old in RB terms (particularly), but if he's even 80% healthy, he's gotta be a second tier guy at this point in his career.

 

It's also worth noting that he averaged only 14 carries a game last year. Even at his age, if you gave him 20 carries a game, he could rack up some serious yards IMO. But they will conserve him with that "formidable duo" in mind. And you know what? I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he averaged 4.5 yards per carry this year assuming that he's at least 80% healthy, because he'll still make a lot of people miss with that elusiveness.

 

I'll concede that I wouldn't draft him in a fantasy league due to limited play-making opportunities and injury potential. I'd just as soon draft Thomas Jones, and that ought to say it all as I don't even have him in my Top 25.

[GoodAsGould]

Idonno if you watched Faulk he doesnt look like the same back at all....last year and the year b4 he has really slowed down it seems and age has really affected his game.

[jackie hayes]

Faulk's got that one-in-a-million type elusiveness though, you know?  He's one of the best RBs of all time.  And I know that 32 is old in RB terms (particularly), but if he's even 80% healthy, he's gotta be a second tier guy at this point in his career.

 

It's also worth noting that he averaged only 14 carries a game last year.  Even at his age, if you gave him 20 carries a game, he could rack up some serious yards IMO.  But they will conserve him with that "formidable duo" in mind.  And you know what?  I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he averaged 4.5 yards per carry this year assuming that he's at least 80% healthy, because he'll still make a lot of people miss with that elusiveness.

He used to be elusive, but he just didn't make many defenders miss last year. I'm not thinking much about total yardage, only averages, and he hasn't done much in the last couple years. There were a few times last year when he'd make a beautiful cut, make a 1-2 yard play a 5-10 yarder, and you'd think that, finally!, he's back. But then the next game was more of the same. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm betting that he continues to wind down. We'll see. And considering how you apparently do in fantasy leagues, it does seem pointless arguing w/ you, but there it is.

[The Human Borch]

did anybody see benson's mustache?

[DukeNukeEm]

This defense ain't no joke.  I believe this is a Top 5 defense in the NFC:

 

DE: Renaldo Wynn (Solid)

DT: Brandon Noble (Solid)

DT: Cornelius Griffin (Solid)

DE: HOLE

OLB: Lavar Arrington (All-Pro Caliber)

MLB: Lemar Marshall (Solid)

OLB: Marcus Washington (All-Pro Caliber)

CB: Shawn Springs (Solid)

FS: Sean Taylor (All-Pro Caliber)

SS: HOLE

CB: Walt Harris (Solid), Carlos Rogers (Solid)

 

They also have a pretty good offensive line and one of the deepest backfields in the league:

 

RB: Clinton Portis (All-Pro Caliber)

RB: Ladell Betts (Solid)

FB: Chris Cooley (All-Pro Caliber)

FB: Mike Sellers (Solid)

 

They also have pretty good special teams (kicking and punting wise, anyway).

 

Now, this s*** ain't football law.  You could argue that Cooley ain't all-pro caliber, and you wouldn't be way off base.  But that is one deep f***ing backfield any way you slice it.

 

Like us, they have a major hole at the QB slot, no quality tight ends, and jack s*** for depth at WR.  I'd say that we're pretty evenly matched, except that our defense has a much higher ceiling in terms of potential devastation.

 

I can tell you right now that I won't be the least bit surprised if they beat us, especially with Blache looking for revenge.

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Brandon Noble solid? Yes. When his knee isnt blown out. Unfortunatly, he's the Rex Grossman of NT's. The Skins have 1 good defensive lineman, and that is 3T Cornelius Griffin.

 

LB's took a HUGE hit with the loss of Pierce who was without a doubt the leader of that defense.

 

Lemar Marshall isnt solid.

 

FS Sean Taylor is awaiting charges after he shot at somebody. 4 Years in Prison is what he could get. Stay Tuned.

 

Marcus Washington, LaVarr Arrington, Shawn Springs and Carlos Rodgers are the only players I would take playing for the Bears. I'd take a clean Taylor, but for now he's a cancner who's demanding more dough than Ed Reed.

[hammerhead johnson]

Brandon Noble solid?  Yes.  When his knee isnt blown out.  Unfortunatly, he's the Rex Grossman of NT's.  The Skins have 1 good defensive lineman, and that is 3T Cornelius Griffin.

 

Brandon Noble, when healthy, can tie up two blockers and make that LB core all the more effective. I'm assuming health this year until he gives me a reason to think otherwise. Renaldo Wynn is still a very effective DE. He's getting up there in age, though.

 

LB's took a HUGE hit with the loss of Pierce who was without a doubt the leader of that defense.

Lemar Marshall isnt solid.

 

 

Lemar Marshall is a very smart player and he doesn't miss very many tackles. He's not as good as Pierce, but he's still a solid overall player. What makes you think otherwise, specifically?

 

FS Sean Taylor is awaiting charges after he shot at somebody.  4 Years in Prison is what he could get.  Stay Tuned.

 

Marcus Washington, LaVarr Arrington, Shawn Springs and Carlos Rodgers are the only players I would take playing for the Bears.  I'd take a clean Taylor, but for now he's a cancner who's demanding more dough than Ed Reed.

 

That's fine, I'd be inclined to agree that if you combined the Bears and the Redskins defensive starters, we'd have about 6 players and they'd have 5.

 

All things considered, the Redskins are a Top 5 defense in the NFC, and that's not due to the presence of only 5 or 6 players. They're a pretty deep squad with very few holes.

Edited August 30, 2005 by hammerhead johnson

[DBAHO]

I think by the end of the season people are going to be talking about Julius Jones as if he's a Franchise back IF he can stay healthy. He was on pace for about 1700 yards last season if he didn't get injured.

[GoodAsGould]

I think by the end of the season people are going to be talking about Julius Jones as if he's a Franchise back IF he can stay healthy. He was on pace for about 1700 yards last season if he didn't get injured.

 

Kevin Jones was having a great season last year 2 in the 2nd half especially.... One think Kevin Jones has that Julius though is a good offense around him. In Dallas they are going to be more worried about the run than the pass... and in Detroit it will be the other way around which makes it easier for Kevin Jones to run.

[DBAHO]

Kevin Jones was having a great season last year 2 in the 2nd half especially.... One think Kevin Jones has that Julius though is a good offense around him.  In Dallas they are going to be more worried about the run than the pass... and in Detroit it will be the other way around which makes it easier for Kevin Jones to run.

Yeah but Dallas still have some weapons on offense. Jason Witten is a top 4 TE in the league, and Terry Glenn will be very damaging with Drew Bledsoe if he doesn't get injured. Glenn and Bledsoe have a good continuity b/w them.

[WHarris1]

I think by the end of the season people are going to be talking about Julius Jones as if he's a Franchise back IF he can stay healthy. He was on pace for about 1700 yards last season if he didn't get injured.

Of course you think that. If you were a Bears fan you would talk up Thomas Jones.

[GoodAsGould]

Of course you think that.  If you were a Bears fan you would talk up Thomas Jones.

 

Not really he actually has a point with Julius and im a Bears fan...

[WHarris1]

Not really he actually has a point with Julius and im a Bears fan...

Thanks I really had no idea who Julius Jones was or if he was good at football or not... :banghead

[knightni]

Thanks I really had no idea who Julius Jones was or if he was good at football or not... :banghead

Seriously...?

[WHarris1]

Seriously...?

[knightni]

   

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