RDriesen Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Latest from our side http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39639 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Well I'm not going to sign up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Thanks for the update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Recap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDriesen Posted August 30, 2005 Author Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(redandwhite @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 08:15 PM) Well I'm not going to sign up. LAZY people get no help from me. if you are spending time on the net, yet dont have 2 min to sign up for a site, then i guess you dont care what it says Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(RDriesen @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 07:36 PM) LAZY people get no help from me. if you are spending time on the net, yet dont have 2 min to sign up for a site, then i guess you dont care what it says I signed up and it wouldn't let me go to your link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Signed up. Basically saying we're desperate and that if we really want Griffey, KW would make it happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(RDriesen @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 01:36 AM) LAZY people get no help from me. if you are spending time on the net, yet dont have 2 min to sign up for a site, then i guess you dont care what it says <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, I don't really care what it says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlackSox8 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(RDriesen @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 08:36 PM) LAZY people get no help from me. if you are spending time on the net, yet dont have 2 min to sign up for a site, then i guess you dont care what it says LAZY....lol. They're already being lazy just sitting at the computer browsing the web wouldn't you say. I'd call it PC lazy....which is extremely lazy....all you are doing is moving your arm and fingers...LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDriesen Posted August 30, 2005 Author Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 08:40 PM) Signed up. Basically saying we're desperate and that if we really want Griffey, KW would make it happen. really? where did you read that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDriesen Posted August 30, 2005 Author Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 08:38 PM) I signed up and it wouldn't let me go to your link. just checked it out, yea, the guy over there merged it with another jr link. for you lazy chicagoans or whatever it is By JOE KAY CINCINNATI (AP) - Ken Griffey Jr. has no desire to leave his hometown team, his agent said Monday in response to another round of speculation that the Cincinnati Reds would consider trading the outfielder. Chief operating officer John Allen said there was no truth to reports out of Chicago that the Reds and White Sox were working on a deal for Griffey, who has the right to block any trade. Reports have popped up in various forms since July. The 35-year-old Griffey has the final say over whether he is dealt. As a player who has spent 10 years in the majors, the last five with the same team, Griffey has the right under baseball's collective bargaining agreement to block any trade. His agent said Monday he doesn't want to go anywhere else. "Junior is not looking to get out of Cincinnati," agent Brian Goldberg said. "If the Reds want to initiate a trade and seek his approval, that's their prerogative and Junior and I would deal with that if they were to come to us." So far, the Reds have not. Griffey's renaissance season - a .302 average, 33 homers, 90 RBIs - has revived his career and his popularity in Cincinnati. He is tied for 13th on the career homer list with Jimmie Foxx at 534, two shy of Mickey Mantle. Griffey is still the best draw on the Reds' roster, the one player who can get fans interested in coming to the ballpark to see him take a swing at history or make a sensational play in center field. Any deal involving the outfielder would have to be approved by Reds owner Carl Lindner, who brought Griffey home in February 2000 on a nine-year, $116.5 million deal that runs through 2008. Lindner has given no indication he would approve a trade unless Griffey asks to leave. Allen confirmed that there have been no discussions with Griffey about a deal. "The continued pending trade reports this past weekend regarding the Reds and the White Sox are rumors and there's no merit to them," Allen said in a phone interview Monday. "In addition, it should be remembered that Ken is a 5-and-10 (year) player and would have to be involved in any discussion in that regard. "We have not and do not intend to have any such discussions with Ken and his agent." Trade speculation will become moot at midnight Wednesday. Any player dealt after that deadline won't be eligible for the postseason. The speculation involving Griffey underscores his remarkable comeback from his worst injury. Griffey tore his right hamstring from the bone and had it reattached with three titanium screws last August, jeopardizing his career. The hamstring hadn't fully recovered by spring training. He got off to a slow start, but has looked like the old Junior since July. His 16 homers since the All-Star break are the most in the majors, and he's hitting .370 in August with 10 homers and 19 RBIs. Griffey is hitting .458 during a 14-game hitting streak, kept intact Monday when Cincinnati's game in Pittsburgh was rained out. His contract calls for base salaries of $12.5 million in each of the next three seasons, plus an option for 2009 at $16.5 million. The club could buy out the option year for $4 million. In all, Griffey is owed $41.5 million after the 2005 season, so he wouldn't be a short-term or cheap fix for any playoff contender looking to add another slugger. Griffey expects to stay in Cincinnati. "There's no use talking about hypotheticals here because nobody from the Reds has asked us about any kind of trade," Goldberg said. "As long as nobody asks, we have to assume there is nothing in the works." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpringfieldFan Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(RDriesen @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 08:01 PM) Latest from our side http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39639 Another link over there is http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39609 For this link, you DO NOT need to sign up to read it. If you want to post, then you have to sign up to get access to the "casual" fans thread over there. Thanks Rdriesen! SFF (a.k.a. "ChisoxFan" on Redszone.com) Edited August 30, 2005 by SpringfieldFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 They sound kind of dillusional over there. They also need to brush up on their waiver rules. It's impossible for McCarthy to be traded due to the Waiver process, Tampa would caim him immediatly. Plus he can't be used as a PTBNL because a player on the active 40 man roster can not be used as a PTBNL. Oh yeah, tell them we're not sweating. This team is the furthest thing from desperate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 03:13 AM) Oh yeah, tell them we're not sweating. This team is the furthest thing from desperate. We're not desperate for offense? If that's true, then those Desperate Housewives must really be sluts if we're not considered desperate right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpringfieldFan Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Most of those folks seem ok over there, but I get a weird, almost condecending vibe. Apparently some of them can't separate the Cubs and their fans from the Sox and their fans. A couple of them seem to have a vested interest in seeing the Sox fail, or at least in convincing people they will. SFF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(SpringfieldFan @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 08:43 AM) Most of those folks seem ok over there, but I get a weird, almost condecending vibe. Apparently some of them can't separate the Cubs and their fans from the Sox and their fans. A couple of them seem to have a vested interest in seeing the Sox fail, or at least in convincing people they will. SFF They're just pissed because their team sucks, and their management can't figure out the fact that they have tons of outfielders, and could spend the Griffey money the Sox pick up and actually get some decent pitchers. haha, eric milton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 We've been over this. The general rule allows for ANY player to used as a PTBNL. The only restriction is that the player can not have played in the same league as the destination team. That's not a problem with the White Sox & Reds because they are in different leagues. The problem with using PTBNL to avoid ML waivers is that the Reds are still dealing KGJ on promises. The White Sox are under no obligation to fullfill those promises & the two parties might not be able to come to agreement on future considerations. In that scenario the commish would weigh in & KGJ might be the PTBNL before the 6 month's expire. That's why the best assurance for a PTBNL is cash. The White Sox agree to a cash agreement if the two teams can't agree on the players. It appears the White Sox are not willing to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 04:15 PM) We've been over this. The general rule allows for ANY player to used as a PTBNL. The only restriction is that the player can not have played in the same league as the destination team. That's not a problem with the White Sox & Reds because they are in different leagues. The problem with using PTBNL to avoid ML waivers is that the Reds are still dealing KGJ on promises. The White Sox are under no obligation to fullfill those promises & the two parties might not be able to come to agreement on future considerations. In that scenario the commish would weigh in & KGJ might be the PTBNL before the 6 month's expire. That's why the best assurance for a PTBNL is cash. The White Sox agree to a cash agreement if the two teams can't agree on the players. It appears the White Sox are not willing to do that. First paragraph is correct. All the rest is nothing more than conjecture, at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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