Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted August 30, 2005 Author Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 10:39 AM) There's no comparison between the offensive production of PK and Gload. PK's numbers at least can be compared to those guys you mentioned, and not be laughed at. And Anaheim's first baseman isn't even in the same league as PK or those other guys. Actually, the guys you all list are mostly DH. PK is better than Broussard, Millar, Erstad, and Tino. DO you enjoy watching Pop Up Paulie walk to the plate 4 times a game in the 3 hole only to pop up twice, K once with runners on base, then single with the bases empty consistently? Do you honostly see him as a clutch hitter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 03:38 PM) Anybody that can not see that giving Gload a chance is worth it for the struggling offense, must be one of Ozzie's boys too. There is no logical explanation for not trying to shake things up when the offense is struggling. Where would Gload play? Gload's not better than Everett. He can't play the outfield due to his injury. Our offense needs help....but Gload isn't the solution. And I've never been accused of being one of Ozzie's boys, I can guarantee that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 03:43 PM) DO you enjoy watching Pop Up Paulie walk to the plate 4 times a game in the 3 hole only to pop up twice, K once with runners on base, then single with the bases empty consistently? Do you honostly see him as a clutch hitter? I do enjoy him being one of the best power hitters in the AL from a power hitting position. In times when this offense is slumping, it's easy to tell that PK is the best overall hitter on this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted August 30, 2005 Author Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 10:43 AM) Where would Gload play? Gload's not better than Everett. He can't play the outfield due to his injury. Our offense needs help....but Gload isn't the solution. And I've never been accused of being one of Ozzie's boys, I can guarantee that. It is too bad Gload can't play Shortstop or Third. How about this scenario. LF Everett CF Pods Rf Die DH Gload 1B Pop Up Paulie Arow is struggling since June. Everett defense is not nearly on par, but we need offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted August 30, 2005 Author Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 10:44 AM) I do enjoy him being one of the best power hitters in the AL from a power hitting position. In times when this offense is slumping, it's easy to tell that PK is the best overall hitter on this team. Which does not say much for the offense. :banghead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 03:46 PM) It is too bad Gload can't play Shortstop or Third. How about this scenario. LF Everett CF Pods Rf Die DH Gload 1B Pop Up Paulie Arow is struggling since June. Everett defense is not nearly on par, but we need offense. So you downgrade the defense at two positions. You have two guys in the outfield who are both coming off of injuries. Not exactly a formula for winning baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted August 30, 2005 Author Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 10:50 AM) So you downgrade the defense at two positions. You have two guys in the outfield who are both coming off of injuries. Not exactly a formula for winning baseball. Well we have not exactly been a winning team lately, have we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 It is too bad Gload can't play Shortstop or Third. How about this scenario. LF Everett CF Pods Rf Die DH Gload 1B Pop Up Paulie Arow is struggling since June. Everett defense is not nearly on par, but we need offense. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The team is built on pitching and defense. They are NOT going to bench an excellent defensive CF to start a career minor leaguer at DH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 03:51 PM) Well we have not exactly been a winning team lately, have we? You're preaching to the choir about that. No one on this site thinks we need an offensive upgrade more than I do. However, you make it seem like Gload is guaranteed to bat .370 for the Sox and get a clutch hit every AB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted August 30, 2005 Author Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 10:52 AM) The team is built on pitching and defense. They are NOT going to bench an excellent defensive CF to start a career minor leaguer at DH. Well we agree to disagree. If we could find a away to balance Everett and Thomas, it is beyond stupid to say there is no place to Gload to play. Particularly when we had to sit through 2 weeks of Timo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted August 30, 2005 Author Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 10:53 AM) You're preaching to the choir about that. No one on this site thinks we need an offensive upgrade more than I do. However, you make it seem like Gload is guaranteed to bat .370 for the Sox and get a clutch hit every AB. If Gload hit .270, the only person in our line up better would be Iguchi. I am just suggesting that we try something different to get a spark. If we fail, it is not like we can make the offense worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 10:55 AM) If Gload hit .270, the only person in our line up better would be Iguchi. I am just suggesting that we try something different to get a spark. If we fail, it is not like we can make the offense worse. Winning lottery numbers, please. TIA.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 03:55 PM) If Gload hit .270, the only person in our line up better would be Iguchi. I am just suggesting that we try something different to get a spark. If we fail, it is not like we can make the offense worse. I don't care if he hit .270 if it's all singles. What this team needs is offensive production, not a worthless 2 out single down 7-2. What we should be doing is shaking up the lineup. I did like the adjustment Uribe seemed to be making with his stance. It's about time he tried something new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Well we agree to disagree. If we could find a away to balance Everett and Thomas, it is beyond stupid to say there is no place to Gload to play. Particularly when we had to sit through 2 weeks of Timo. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No it's not beyond stupid to say there is no place to play Gload. He is not gonna play over Perez because Perez can play the OF. Gload would be behind both Konerko and Everett, period. You can massage Sept. 2004 stats all you want, he'd get very little playing time behind Konerko and Everett. Maybe 6-8 at bats per week. The team was built on pitching, defense, and flexibility. Gload plays one position and is sitting behind Konerko. There is no conspiracy theory, no matter how many times you post it, you aren't gonna change anyone's mind. Let it drop, your point has been made several times over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted August 30, 2005 Author Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 10:56 AM) I don't care if he hit .270 if it's all singles. What this team needs is offensive production, not a worthless 2 out single down 7-2. What we should be doing is shaking up the lineup. I did like the adjustment Uribe seemed to be making with his stance. It's about time he tried something new. The better adjustment for Uribe would be on the bench with Pablo starting, but that is another post. When rarely have more than a few hits, having a few singles is a start. We could have used A HIT a few times with runners on last night or how about in Freddy' no hitter. You can wait for a three run homer, look at the twins the past few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted August 30, 2005 Author Share Posted August 30, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(JimH @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 10:58 AM) No it's not beyond stupid to say there is no place to play Gload. There is no conspiracy theory, no matter how many times you post it, you aren't gonna change anyone's mind. Let it drop, your point has been made several times over. RUDE you can disagree all you want, Iaccept that. But if you don't like the post or it upsets you, don't respond Edited August 30, 2005 by Greg The Bull Luzinski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 04:00 PM) The better adjustment for Uribe would be on the bench with Pablo starting, but that is another post. When rarely have more than a few hits, having a few singles is a start. We could have used A HIT a few times with runners on last night or how about in Freddy' no hitter. You can wait for a three run homer, look at the twins the past few years. What? The Twins played for the 3 run homer you suggest? You couldn't be more further from the truth with that. If Ozuna was our starting SS all season, he'd have 30 errors and probably end up batting around where Uribe will finish off batting, with no extra base power. And BTW....Gload had his chances this season, and didn't impress. He choked in that KC game with the error....no other way to desribe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 RUDE you can disagree all you want, Iaccept that. But if you don't like the post, don't respond <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Let's see, 50 posts and you're running around telling everybody how to post. I would say that's rude. I'm debating your point, you keep beating it to death. Don't like my posts? It works both ways, don't respond then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted August 30, 2005 Author Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 11:04 AM) Let's see, 50 posts and you're running around telling everybody how to post. I would say that's rude. I'm debating your point, you keep beating it to death. Don't like my posts? It works both ways, don't respond then. I never said anything was wrong with your posts. I could care less about your posts. You responded to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 I never said anything was wrong with your posts. I could care less about your posts. You responded to me. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yup I responded to you because it's a message board. If you don't like my responses, so be it. I called you out about beating your point to death. Further, your point about starting Ozuna over Uribe shows a lack of understanding of why this team is in first place to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted August 30, 2005 Author Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 11:08 AM) Yup I responded to you because it's a message board. If you don't like my responses, so be it. I called you out about beating your point to death. Further, your point about starting Ozuna over Uribe shows a lack of understanding of why this team is in first place to begin with. Are you having a bad day Jim? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Lets get back to the topic please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Are you having a bad day Jim? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What does my day have to do with anything? Actually my day is going quite well, thank you. Are you trying to make this personal? I suggest you don't, read the thread pinned at the top of the board. I realize you are new so you may feel you have to try and convince people of your point, but you're off to a bad start. You made your point 20 times already. Your point is, they should try to shake up the lineup to get an offensive boost. WE GET IT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 10:46 AM) It is too bad Gload can't play Shortstop or Third. How about this scenario. LF Everett CF Pods Rf Die DH Gload 1B Pop Up Paulie Arow is struggling since June. Everett defense is not nearly on par, but we need offense. I see you are newish here. Leave the nicknames out of the players, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted August 30, 2005 Author Share Posted August 30, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 11:11 AM) What does my day have to do with anything? Actually my day is going quite well, thank you. Are you trying to make this personal? I suggest you don't, read the thread pinned at the top of the board. I realize you are new so you may feel you have to try and convince people of your point, but you're off to a bad start. You made your point 20 times already. Your point is, they should try to shake up the lineup to get an offensive boost. WE GET IT. You sound like you are angry. That is why I asked how your day is. If I offended you I apologize. Furthermore, I will be the better man and walk away. I would not want to upset you more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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