Greg Hibbard Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 (edited) THE INDIANS ARE NOT WINNING THIS DIVISION! I don't care what kind of jinx you think I'm laying down. IT'S NOT HAPPENING!!!!!!! Say the Indians somehow magically go 21-9. Really, this is the best they could humanly do. They cannot and will not go 22-8 (.733) with their remaining schedule, including 3 with Oakland, 6 with a decent Minnesota team (and Santana), 3 at Jacobs Field with a hot D-rays team that just swept them there, and 6 with the White Sox who have handled them. But say they win every single series from here on out, (split the remaining two with detroit, win 2/3 at Min, 2/3 at detroit, 2/3 vs. Min, 2/3 vs. Oak, 3/3 vs. KC, 2/3 vs. Oakland, 2/3 at Sox, 3/4 at KC, 2/3 vs. TB, and 2/3 vs. Sox) improbable as it is. The Sox have to go just 14-18 to lose the division after tonight's win. Think about this for a minute. During the season's very worst 32 game stretch, from a Detroit loss on Tuesday July 19th through last week's series at Minnesota, the team went 15-17, one game better than the worst they would have to do to tie under this scenario. With 7 against Boston. With 6 against New York. With two games against Johan motherf***ing Santana. With a 7 game losing streak. With losing 8 out of 9 games. With another west coast trip. And with all that, during that stretch, they STILL won 15 out of 32 games. We have six dates with Kansas City right around the corner, ending on Sept. 15th. I'd be surprised if the magic number after those series isn't under 10 by then. AGAIN, ONCE AND FOR ALL, THE INDIANS ARE NOT WINNING THIS DIVISION! Edited August 31, 2005 by Greg Hibbard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 This surely needed its own thread. Them are fighting words... err.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted August 31, 2005 Author Share Posted August 31, 2005 QUOTE(redandwhite @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 10:29 PM) This surely needed its own thread. Them are fighting words... err.. If "the White Sox are DONE" needed its own thread, this did too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Yep, the Indians won't win the division. It'll be the Sox winning it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 OUCH. THAT HURT MY EYES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 post of the year thus far must have been my coaching in the chat today =P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 11:34 PM) Yep, the Indians won't win the division. It'll be the Sox winning it. And then is it three and out in the ALDS?? I'm not one of the doomsayers around here by any stretch, but the self confidence that this team had (and we had in them) the first 3.5 months of the season is AWOL. Before the break, we looked to be THE TEAM, the story of the year, yada yada. Now we're just looking like one of the also-rans, limping into the playoffs with a too much self doubt for Ozzie to brush aside with a couple of jokes in the clubhouse. That said, I think they can shake off the funk and get past the first round. If they can channel 88 years of fan and franchise anguish and just fire on all cylinders for a couple short series' then maybe we'll see the team do us proud. We're just shy of the centennial of the 1906 'Hitless Wonders' championship team, but I think that's close enough so what the hell, let's do it again. Over?. . . Was it over when the... Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 11:51 PM) And then is it three and out in the ALDS?? I'm not one of the doomsayers around here by any stretch, but the self confidence that this team had (and we had in them) the first 3.5 months of the season is AWOL. Before the break, we looked to be THE TEAM, the story of the year, yada yada. Now we're just looking like one of the also-rans, limping into the playoffs with a too much self doubt for Ozzie to brush aside with a couple of jokes in the clubhouse. That said, I think they can shake off the funk and get past the first round. If they can channel 88 years of fan and franchise anguish and just fire on all cylinders for a couple short series' then maybe we'll see the team do us proud. We're just shy of the centennial of the 1906 'Hitless Wonders' championship team, but I think that's close enough so what the hell, let's do it again. Over?. . . Was it over when the... Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? HELL NO!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 "The Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?" "Just let him go, he's on a roll". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 "It's not over until WE decide it is!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted August 31, 2005 Author Share Posted August 31, 2005 FYI, I'll take any bets too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 They are 5-13 in their last 18. The play Minny 7 times, California 3 and the Indians 6. The Royals have a two game winning streak against us and Tigers have played us tight and have a much better hitting team than us. We play them 6 times. Minnny 2 - 5 (We are 2-5 in our last 7 against them) Cal 1-2 Det 3-3 and this is a stretch Clev 1-5 (They want it more sorry) 7-15, go from there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted August 31, 2005 Author Share Posted August 31, 2005 QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Aug 31, 2005 -> 02:29 PM) They are 5-13 in their last 18. The play Minny 7 times, California 3 and the Indians 6. The Royals have a two game winning streak against us and Tigers have played us tight and have a much better hitting team than us. We play them 6 times. Minnny 2 - 5 (We are 2-5 in our last 7 against them) Cal 1-2 Det 3-3 and this is a stretch Clev 1-5 (They want it more sorry) 7-15, go from there Ha! What is the Sox head to head record vs. the Indians this year? Oh yeah, and how much do you want to put down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 QUOTE(Greg Hibbard @ Aug 31, 2005 -> 02:31 PM) Ha! What is the Sox head to head record vs. the Indians this year? Oh yeah, and how much do you want to put down? Check the run differential in the injun games with the sox. If you think by our record we beat them down. I suggest you look again. The only convincing wins happend in that last 4 game sweep. We havent hit besides 2 games yesterday in a month. The indians have a great bullpen and good pitching. But yeah I can see how we are just going to beat the crap out of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted August 31, 2005 Author Share Posted August 31, 2005 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Aug 31, 2005 -> 03:00 PM) The only convincing wins happend in that last 4 game sweep. Um, yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted August 31, 2005 Author Share Posted August 31, 2005 FYI I am still taking bets. PM me if you are big enough to put your money where your mouth is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted August 31, 2005 Author Share Posted August 31, 2005 come on guys, the way some of you are talking, this is EASY money here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 We face Cy Douglas tomorrow, then Robertson and Bonderman and then TBA. We are going to rock the s*** out of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted August 31, 2005 Author Share Posted August 31, 2005 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Aug 31, 2005 -> 03:20 PM) We face Cy Douglas tomorrow, then Robertson and Bonderman and then TBA. We are going to rock the s*** out of them So you are going on record saying you don't think the Sox are gonna win the division? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 QUOTE(Greg Hibbard @ Aug 31, 2005 -> 09:38 PM) So you are going on record saying you don't think the Sox are gonna win the division? I DONT! However, I'm not going to bet on it. I'm not hedging my love for the Sox for money. I've never changed my opinion this year that the Sox were playing way over their heads to start the year, and that things would come crumbling down due to a poor offense, overachieving pitching, and awful managing. Now, it doesn't mean that I won't root like hell for them to win every game they play the rest of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 We all knew August was going to be tough. It's over. September looks kind of cake to me. Hopefully that instills some confidence back into the pitching and offense for the postseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Aug 31, 2005 -> 03:42 PM) We all knew August was going to be tough. It's over. September looks kind of cake to me. Hopefully that instills some confidence back into the pitching and offense for the postseason. Between July and August, they were .500, as average as you can be. They don't have many off days now, and have really played poorly at home. If Ozzie continues to give away games by trotting out lineups like the one he threw out there today, you will be witnessing one of the biggest collapses in MLB history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxjr27 Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(Greg Hibbard @ Aug 31, 2005 -> 03:38 PM) So you are going on record saying you don't think the Sox are gonna win the division? thats not whats he's saying. hes saying that we have had a tough time against those pitchers. Edited August 31, 2005 by whitesoxjr27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 If the Sox did fall apart, I wonder how Hawk would blame it on Manuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 If this team blows it they might have to cancel soxfest next year out of fear for their lives. ya know the whole win or die trying campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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