Texsox Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 The choke could be on LINK We better check and see if personal attacks include Mr. Jay Mariotti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Pretty good article to me. What's the problem? This team has been horses*** for the last 6 weeks. We've lost close to 9 games off our division lead since Aug 1st. Our offense has sucked major ass for a while now. Kenny wasn't able to make one move to upgrade the offense. Buehrle was being a little ho in making a silly claim such as a good hitting team like the Rangers stealing signs. Ariticle was dead on to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLAK Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Does anyone have the audio from yesterday's game where Hawk called a writer, and also Mariotti a Hinnie Bird? I heard it replayed on MJH, it basically went: A Hinnie bird flies around and around in perfectly concetric circles until it eventually flies up its own rear end and dissappears. Instant classic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 He's not incorrect, but this article just falls in line with what Mariotti does. He just writes enough articles on both sides of a topic so that he appear to be "right" no matter what happens. As a columnist, he's supposed to write about what's going on, but the annoying thing about him is that he over-reacts with a tinge of anger in his tone, as if he cares what happens to any Chicago team. He clearly doesn't care, except I will suggest that he might enjoy when teams lose because he gets to trot out his own stupid nicknames and smarmy attitude. Hard to treat a winning team that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 If Mariotti was a political columnist, he'd go from ultra-conservatitive to extreme leftist and back again within a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Montana Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 (edited) The final, final, final trading deadline passed late Wednesday night without activity, leaving the Sox with one of the flimsiest batting orders of any contender in years. Ken Williams has done a terrific job in overhauling the franchise culture and assembling a four-month dynamo, but trying to win a World Series for the first time since 1917 is a seven-month job. And he has failed to acquire a hitter -- unless we're counting Geoff Blum, and we're not -- who can inject Viagra into a limp lineup Hit it right on the nail. I was disappointed that the only hitter we could get was Blum. Blum is a bandage for this lineup but not a starter. He did not do anything during the deadlines to improve our chances at at the World Series. I understand there was not much in the market but he should have gone all out this year because this is our chance. So I repeat Blum is just a bandage for the defense. This is not a bad article to me and everything he said is legit. Edited September 1, 2005 by Ozzie Montana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted September 1, 2005 Author Share Posted September 1, 2005 QUOTE(The Critic @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 07:07 AM) He's not incorrect, but this article just falls in line with what Mariotti does. He just writes enough articles on both sides of a topic so that he appear to be "right" no matter what happens. As a columnist, he's supposed to write about what's going on, but the annoying thing about him is that he over-reacts with a tinge of anger in his tone, as if he cares what happens to any Chicago team. He clearly doesn't care, except I will suggest that he might enjoy when teams lose because he gets to trot out his own stupid nicknames and smarmy attitude. Hard to treat a winning team that way. I will contend he shouldn't care. If you want commentary from people who care, just say here and read all the caring you want. If he was writing for a Minnesota or Cleveland paper, there would not be the venomous opinions against him. I am willing to bet we could find more than a few respected posters here who have said everything in his column. Still, as a Mariotti fan, I believe this is one of his worse columns. Not from what he said but how he said it. His dislike for the organization and the key people who represent the organization, are not veiled like he usually tries. I think he mailed this one in. Disappointing because the Jay I know and like reading should have been writing and rewriting this column since the All-Star break, waiting for the right moment to publish it. Instead it looks like he wrote it last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retro1983hat Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 I hate Mariotti, but I COMPLETELY agree with his assesment today. He is dead on. We are not officially choking yet, but we are starting to gag a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxy Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Meh, not his worst column ever (not really saying much, though), although he totally ripped off Eric Zorn's stupid "tragic number" thing. And I do not find Red Forman to be irritating--I think he's great in the spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyho7476 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 QUOTE(ChiSoxyGirl @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 08:51 AM) And I do not find Red Forman to be irritating--I think he's great in the spots. Yeah, I like the spots. He's a good pick for this. Is he a Sox fan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Sox Fan Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 QUOTE(Ozzie Montana @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 06:30 AM) Hit it right on the nail. I was disappointed that the only hitter we could get was Blum. Blum is a bandage for this lineup but not a starter. He did not do anything during the deadlines to improve our chances at at the World Series. I understand there was not much in the market but he should have gone all out this year because this is our chance. So I repeat Blum is just a bandage for the defense. This is not a bad article to me and everything he said is legit. Blum ruined the chemistry of this club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 if the sox don't make the playoffs, there will be lots of hat eating and tears yes, hats and tears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 QUOTE(The Critic @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 07:07 AM) He's not incorrect, but this article just falls in line with what Mariotti does. He just writes enough articles on both sides of a topic so that he appear to be "right" no matter what happens. As a columnist, he's supposed to write about what's going on, but the annoying thing about him is that he over-reacts with a tinge of anger in his tone, as if he cares what happens to any Chicago team. He clearly doesn't care, except I will suggest that he might enjoy when teams lose because he gets to trot out his own stupid nicknames and smarmy attitude. Hard to treat a winning team that way. Thank you. I'm glad there are others who don't fall for the mariotti bulls***. This column was as expected, in my opinion: blatant shots at Sox players and other members of the organization, subtle shots at the fans. It sounded as sports-unintelligent as I've come to expect from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Who cares about Mariotti. No matter what his intentions were, this team has looked like s*** for an entire month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yossarian Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 The Critic and Yasny have Mariotti pegged correctly. Jay combines venom with a two faced nature, regardless of whatever writing talent he may possess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox1422 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 02:03 PM) Yeah, I like the spots. He's a good pick for this. Is he a Sox fan? That's not Red Forman is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyho7476 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 QUOTE(Sox1422 @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 09:30 AM) That's not Red Forman is it? Yessum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misplaced_Sox Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 I thought the article was fair to me. It will be on Kenny's and Ozzie's head if we dont do something with this team to make the playoffs. BTW I love this quote At the risk of being called an ax murderer by Hawk Harrelson, I'll go so far to acknowledge the Indians are a better club than the Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 By the time the playoffs come and the Sox had a great month of september we'll be Mariotti's favorite to win it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 My only problem with the article is he says 'other trades could have been made'. Really Jay? How the eff would you possibly know that? Cuz you can say "well, so and so would really help this team, or so and so's bat would give them a lift"? Here I thought money was involved and both sides and the player had to agree to terms. Come to find out, all you have to is pick and choose whoever you want and they magically fall into your lap, just like that, deal done. Thx Jay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 (edited) Part about KW having 2 months is 100% on, I am tired of all the KW apoligist saying he had no chance etc, etc. No one but G.Blum is a joke so much for the we will have money to go get a guy we need in June/July crap he spews every dam year. I currently do not like this teams chances we play very sub .500ish against good AL competition every team is not KC. Edited September 1, 2005 by Soxfest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 QUOTE(Soxfest @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 12:58 AM) Part about KW having 2 months is 100% on, I am tired of all the KW apoligist saying he had no chance etc, etc. No one but G.Blum is a joke so much for the we will have money to go get a guy we need in June/July crap he spews every dam year. I currently do not like this teams chances we play very mediocre against good AL competition every team is not KC. Ok then, so let's just extremely overpay for say a Raul Ibanez by giving up Chris Young and Brandon McCarthy. The fact is, the market DICTATED that there would be hardly any trades this year. Any other season, you know KW would have made a move, he's proven that time and time again with the Garcia trade, the Everett trade etc. Teams that don't have winning records aren't going to give away their best players just because they may be overpaid. They want to win now too, they're sick of losing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 QUOTE(Soxfest @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 08:58 AM) Part about KW having 2 months is 100% on, I am tired of all the KW apoligist saying he had no chance etc, etc. No one but G.Blum is a joke so much for the we will have money to go get a guy we need in June/July crap he spews every dam year. I currently do not like this teams chances we play very sub .500ish against good AL competition every team is not KC. We've played bad against the A's and Red Sox. We've held our own against everybodyelse. But, I do get why you would be concerned. Like I said, we're gonna learn an awful lot about this team the next 2-3 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 10:03 AM) Ok then, so let's just extremely overpay for say a Raul Ibanez by giving up Chris Young and Brandon McCarthy. The fact is, the market DICTATED that there would be hardly any trades this year. Any other season, you know KW would have made a move, he's proven that time and time again with the Garcia trade, the Everett trade etc. Teams that don't have winning records aren't going to give away their best players just because they may be overpaid. They want to win now too, they're sick of losing. Brandon McCarthy for Ron Villone speaksa volumns! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 All you need to know about this market is the Mariners asked for Brandon Mccarthy in exchange for Ron Villone, case closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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