JUGGERNAUT Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 (edited) Leading the ALC: Chicago 84 51 27 left Countdown to elimination in the ALC: 16 EN: Cleveland 75 61 14 EN: Minnesota 71 64 06 EN: Detroit 63 71 Kansas City ELIMINATED EN: Elimination Number = Combination of team's losses & Chicago wins How to calculate: Chicago gms left - diff in losses - 1 for any team that can't win the season series. H2H vs CLE 10-3, vs MIN 6-5, vs DET 11-3. Generally speaking H2H is the tie-breaker for teams with identical records in the division. The only exception is if the wild card team finishes with a better record than the best ALC teams. The EN for that scenario is 19. If that should happen then there would be a playoff amongst division contenders. Chicago needs 4 wins against MIN to insure they are the host in any scenario. Edited September 4, 2005 by JUGGERNAUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Cleveland can only win 101 games, and that is if they win their next 26. Minnesota can only win 98 games, and that is if they win their next 27. Sox have to go 17-10 to get to 101 wins, which would clinch the Division. Realistically, based off current Winning Percentages, the Sox will clinch the Division during the CLE series (19-21SEP) once they win one game of that series. Final Standings Projected: Sox 100-62 CLE 89-73 MIN 86-70 The Magic Number to clinch Home Field: 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxhawks Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 what teams have we clinhed overall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 QUOTE(soxhawks @ Sep 4, 2005 -> 06:59 PM) what teams have we clinhed overall? KC was out last weeked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Osuna Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 KC has also been eliminated from the WC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Sep 4, 2005 -> 04:45 PM) Leading the ALC: Chicago 84 51 27 left Countdown to elimination in the ALC: 16 EN: Cleveland 75 61 14 EN: Minnesota 71 64 06 EN: Detroit 63 71 Kansas City ELIMINATED EN: Elimination Number = Combination of team's losses & Chicago wins How to calculate: Chicago gms left - diff in losses - 1 for any team that can't win the season series. H2H vs CLE 10-3, vs MIN 6-5, vs DET 11-3. Generally speaking H2H is the tie-breaker for teams with identical records in the division. The only exception is if the wild card team finishes with a better record than the best ALC teams. The EN for that scenario is 19. If that should happen then there would be a playoff amongst division contenders. Chicago needs 4 wins against MIN to insure they are the host in any scenario. Our magic number is actually 18 against the Indians(17 to tie). The Indians have 26 games left meaning they can win 101 games on the year. We would have to win 17 games to tie them if that was the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Come on, it needs to be September 17th when I see the Sox play the Twins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Sep 4, 2005 -> 10:06 PM) Come on, it needs to be September 17th when I see the Sox play the Twins. That would be quite sweet. Although, so would any game against the Twins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 QUOTE(Dam8610 @ Sep 4, 2005 -> 10:21 PM) That would be quite sweet. Although, so would any game against the Twins. id love to celebrate with us winning and clinching on their field, not like 2000 where we lost on their field but still clinched Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Sep 4, 2005 -> 09:50 PM) Our magic number is actually 18 against the Indians(17 to tie). The Indians have 26 games left meaning they can win 101 games on the year. We would have to win 17 games to tie them if that was the case. That is what I was saying, the Magic number is 17, since that would match the possible win total by CLE, and the Sox having the Tie-Breaker. Not 16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted September 7, 2005 Author Share Posted September 7, 2005 Didn't factor in scenario where WC finishes better than tops in ALC. Leading the ALC: Chicago 86 51 25 left Actual Countdown to AL crown & ALC crown: 21 EN: #2 in AL 81 56 25gr 16 EN: Wild Card 77 60 25gr 16 EN: Cleveland 77 61 24gr 11 EN: Minnesota 72 66 24gr 04 EN: Detroit 63 73 26gr 00 EN: Kansas City ELIMINATED Explanation: If the AL WC finishes better than tops in ALC then a playoff game would decide the ALC division in the event of a tie-breaker. That adds a +1 to all ALC contenders EN. BOS owns the H2H tie-breaker against CWS for rights to best in AL. That adds a +1. EN's will drop quickly with H2H action amongst contenders: BOS vs NYY: 6 gms. H2H 7-6 NYY MIN vs DET: 6 gms. H2H 7-6 DET CLE vs DET: 2 gms H2H 10-6 CLE CLE vs MIN: 3 gms H2H 9-7 MIN Applying L10 records to gr: 17 EN: Boston 103 59 06 EN: New York 92 70 06 EN: Cleveland 92 70 00 EN: Minnesota 84 78 00 EN: Detroit 69 93 00 EN: Kansas City 50 112 The WSox are presently playing at a pace to finish 103-59. BOS owns H2H 4-3. We're looking at a dog fight to the very end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Dam that's a lot of math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 KC is still in this, dont rule them out because of a little math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjm676 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Sep 4, 2005 -> 09:06 PM) Come on, it needs to be September 17th when I see the Sox play the Twins. I don't want it to happen then. There's no TV. Or have we all had this discussion before? I forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshot7 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 10:18 AM) KC is still in this, dont rule them out because of a little math. uh, yeah.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSoxFan Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Schweet! I hope it's the 23rd, where I'll be there for my b-day with my family, some of whom have never been to the Cell before. Hey guys! Everybody's jumping around because we just clinched! That would be great. Either way; I can't believe after this long, long season the finish line (well regular season at least) is finally in sight. I thought we'd be better this year, but 35 games over .500? C'mon! What an insanely successful year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 01:10 PM) I thought we'd be better this year, but 35 games over .500? C'mon! What an insanely successful year. Insanely successful? Not yet. An excellent year to be sure...but for it to be "Insanely successful" we need to be 3 games above .500 after October 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSoxFan Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:12 PM) Insanely successful? Not yet. An excellent year to be sure...but for it to be "Insanely successful" we need to be 3 games above .500 after October 3rd. I should have said insanely successful regular season. Still, did anybody really think we were gonna turn it around this quickly with the whole "new" team idea? I thought it would be better than last year, but this season so far is way past what I thought we could accomplish so soon. You're right though: let's get through October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjm676 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 I'm no math whiz, but it seems as if two weeks from now would be a good guess for the clincher. If it comes on Monday the 19th, I'll be there!! Even sweeter because it'll be against the Indians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retro1983hat Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 I am going to two games between 9/19 and 9/25 homestand. I would love to see them clinch. I was there in 93 when they clinched over Seattle. I also hope to God they have a full house on clinching night. No excuses nothing, a championship team deserves a full house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted September 7, 2005 Author Share Posted September 7, 2005 I know we have not performed well of late against contenders at home but I'd still prefer this team playing a game 7 before a Chicago crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSoxFan Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 I agree; although of late it seems like we're shaking the home jinx, whatever was causing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxin' Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 04:08 PM) I agree; although of late it seems like we're shaking the home jinx, whatever was causing that. Big crowds. Last 5 wins at home were small crowds IMO. Every game should be sold out this season based on their record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 QUOTE(whitesoxin' @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 03:24 PM) Big crowds. Last 5 wins at home were small crowds IMO. Every game should be sold out this season based on their record. So get your ass out to more games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSoxFan Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 QUOTE(whitesoxin' @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 03:24 PM) Big crowds. Last 5 wins at home were small crowds IMO. Every game should be sold out this season based on their record. My co-worker was mentioning this today; he can't believe we're getting like 15, 20 thousand people over the past week, being in first place and right in the race to the playoffs. I honestly don't know the answer (especially on a night like last night which was also two-fer Tuesdays). The best I could come up with was: well, school's back in for starters. Either that or people aren't interested in seeing us play Central division teams. I dunno. Doesn't bother me, because I know come playoff time every bandwagon jumper will come out of the woodwork and crowd the place, so I try enjoy the "relaxed" atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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