Chisoxfn Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 QUOTE(WSoxMatt @ Sep 13, 2005 -> 08:46 PM) Stop being so positove while we are all trying to be negative!!! I tell it like it is. You can't possibly expect them to get a hit everytime a runner is on base. Tonight they have done a good job getting the clutch hit, aside from that 1st inning which was totally inexcuseable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Sep 14, 2005 -> 04:50 AM) I can see beltre putting up a near .900 ops here... but still would not make him worth the money. It's not like the mariners would ever take money on, because quite frankly they should not have to. You'd have to make the deal good enough for them so that they'd want to throw in some money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Sep 13, 2005 -> 08:47 PM) If I had any faith that he could turn in around... and that we could get Seattle to take on some money... Adrian Beltre. I have total faith. Beltre will hit 35 HR's next year and have a .280 AVG. Beltre has been knocking in runs at a very good clip since August and is a total stud at 3rd. In fact, I think he's better than Crede over there. I'd be so thrilled if the Sox made that type of investment/addition to this club. Unfortunately I can't see Seattle giving him up and yes, I'd take the entire contract, and give up Gio and Sweeney for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 14, 2005 -> 04:49 AM) I would look into seeing if the Mariners want to add to their Japanese product by trading Iguchi in a possible deal. It's a lot easier to find a solid 2b than it is a powerful 3b in this market. I'm actually Okay with Iguchi here next year. I would have loved for the Sox to have Placido Polanco right now, as well as the contract he just signed (something like four years, $16 million, IIRC), but that's long gone. Most of this hinges around what happens with Konerko, really. And Thomas. I'm a fan of the whole incentive laden contract for Thomas. He can still rake when healthy. Wow -- Columbo cut. Angelo really missed on most of the first round picks minus Tommie Harris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Sep 13, 2005 -> 08:50 PM) I can see beltre putting up a near .900 ops here... but still would not make him worth the money. It's not like the mariners would ever take money on, because quite frankly they should not have to. At the cell he would post a 1.000 plus OPS. Beltre is a way better player than most people here give him credit for. Last season was not a fluke for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Sep 13, 2005 -> 11:49 PM) I tend to agree with you. Of course there aren't many 3rd baseman out there that would fit my needs for the Sox (almost as good defensively as Crede, left handed bat would be a plus, but not required as long as the new DH swings from the left side). To tell you the truth i do not care if all of our offensive players are right handed as long as they hit right handers well. We cannot touch a right handed pitcher with any good off speed pitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 And Harris helped Portis on a trip to the Pro Bowl on Sunday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Sep 14, 2005 -> 04:52 AM) I'm actually Okay with Iguchi here next year. I would have loved for the Sox to have Placido Polanco right now, as well as the contract he just signed (something like four years, $16 million, IIRC), but that's long gone. Yeah, I have no problem with Iguchi coming back next season. However, I wouldn't rule out trading him in the right deal. The only four players I'd never consider trading for next year are Buehrle, Jenks, Cotts, and McCarthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 Q: Who finishes the year with a higher batting average, Iguchi or Uribe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 Juan was trying to send the ball my way on that pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 Nice slide by Crede....NOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 QUOTE(3E8 @ Sep 14, 2005 -> 04:54 AM) Q: Who finishes the year with a higher batting average, Iguchi or Uribe? Iguchi, just barely. I told everyone that PK would end up with a higher batting average than Iguchi after the first month of the season, when Iguchi was near .330. He really needs to get it going though, as he's putting together some real poor ABs lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Sep 13, 2005 -> 11:52 PM) At the cell he would post a 1.000 plus OPS. Beltre is a way better player than most people here give him credit for. Last season was not a fluke for him. Last season was not a fluke for him? He never had an ops over .835 before last season and was over .800 only once. The he just explodes in his contract year ( surprise, surprise...) and puts up an ops over .1000? You tend to overated beltre alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Sep 13, 2005 -> 08:53 PM) To tell you the truth i do not care if all of our offensive players are right handed as long as they hit right handers well. We cannot touch a right handed pitcher with any good off speed pitches. Thats true for the most part. However, a really good righty pitcher has a better shot at a really good righty hitter. Now for a mediocre righty, not too much of a concern. In general, getting good hitters is what matters. In the end my guess is the Sox will slide Guchi to the 3 slot, sign Furcal, shift Uribe to 3rd, and pick up a DH to go to the cleanup spot with Konerko sliding to the 5 hole. That won't be bad. However, I'd prefer picking up Beltre and Chad Tracy while resigning Konerko. I've long said I'd deal Marte/Duque for Tracy and If they wanted a prospect I'd give them a mid-level guy as well. Than move Gio/Sweeney and whoever the hell else for Beltre. Another name I'll throw out that a team would love to unload is JD Drew (who could DH). However, I don't see the Sox adding a Boras rep, let alone a guy thats super injury prone. If they want to do that they might as well target Griffey again in the off-season. Also, Crede with a big hit, hopefully Pods can go back up the middle to drive him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 14, 2005 -> 04:55 AM) Nice slide by Crede....NOT! He is on 2B though. I wouldn't be so quick to want to trade Joe Crede Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Sep 14, 2005 -> 04:52 AM) At the cell he would post a 1.000 plus OPS. Beltre is a way better player than most people here give him credit for. Last season was not a fluke for him. Well, he fits in with the whole latin familia thing, and at least he gives you some stability at the position. My faith in Fields panning out, obviously, isn't too high. Get me Beltre, and if Konerko isn't resigned, Overbay. Giving up the prospects will be a drag, but you're getting two next year from the arbitration picks from PK. Move McCarthy into the rotation, El Duque as our Glendon Rusch long reliever/spot starter type. Grab a couple of NRI's, and let's head to Tuscon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 Big run there driven in by Pods! Nice to see him hitting the ball with more authority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 Podsednik doing what he does best..... Make outs on the basepaths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 Podsednik singles in crede and then thrown out and second. Podsednik is an awful base runner plain and simple. Please no one try and protest it any longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Sep 14, 2005 -> 04:57 AM) Podsednik doing what he does best..... Make outs on the basepaths. Haha....well said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSoxMatt Posted September 14, 2005 Author Share Posted September 14, 2005 Man that was a HUGE run!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 Well, Pods might be out at second but he gets us that extra run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Sep 13, 2005 -> 08:55 PM) Last season was not a fluke for him? He never had an ops over .835 before last season and was over .800 only once. The he just explodes in his contract year ( surprise, surprise...) and puts up an ops over .1000? You tend to overated beltre alot. Maybe, but at the same time you guys under-rate him. He had trouble adjusting to the AL, but two years ago was also his first full season and he finally lived up to his potential. Its not like peopel didn't see him having the taletn to explode the way he does. You don't just hit 50 plus hr's and knock in 130 guys (rough estimates) while hitting well over .300 on accident. He finally got healthy and learned to lay off the s***ty pitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 He makes many lousy baserunning decisions... Between he and Cora, I don't know who is worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 14, 2005 -> 04:54 AM) Yeah, I have no problem with Iguchi coming back next season. However, I wouldn't rule out trading him in the right deal. The only four players I'd never consider trading for next year are Buehrle, Jenks, Cotts, and McCarthy. One person I'd trade while his value is high... Hermanson. And Marte, too. But I'd have to think with this suspension/DL thing it's dropping a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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