Buerhle's comments, regardind Indians Series

[Bias]

Anybody else bothered by him saying they could get swept? I think that's poor leadership....while it may be reality I don't like the mood and him saying that leads me to believe he doesn't think they can get it done.

 

Am I making too much of it? I hope it's a wake up call, but I don't think it is.......

[fathom]

I think this team is as pissed off as all us fans are, and Buehrle just spoke his mind. This 2nd half of the season, he's lost control of his mouth and his change-up. He's still one of my favorite players, and it's better to see this than the bulls*** some of the other members of the organization were saying up until a week ago.

[The Critic]

Anybody else bothered by him saying they could get swept?  I think that's poor leadership....while it may be reality I don't like the mood and him saying that leads me to believe he doesn't think they can get it done.

 

Am I making too much of it?  I hope it's a wake up call, but I don't think it is.......

It depends whether you prefer the team to sound pessimistic or delusional.

The LAST thing I'd want to hear is "Everything's going to be all right" until I SEE something that shows me everything is going to be all right.

I didn't see or hear his comments, so I'd need to know the context. I'm assuming it's along the lines of "if we don't play the way we're capable of playing, we could get swept", and that to me is perfectly acceptable. If he were to say "Oh, man, those guys can MASH!!! We could get swept, no problem!!!", then I'd say he went overboard.

[WSoxMatt]

Yes you are overreacting!!!

[Bias]

It depends whether you prefer the team to sound pessimistic or delusional.

The LAST thing I'd want to hear is "Everything's going to be all right" until I SEE something that shows me everything is going to be all right.

I didn't see or hear his comments, so I'd need to know the context. I'm assuming it's along the lines of "if we don't play the way we're capable of playing, we could get swept", and that to me is perfectly acceptable. If he were to say "Oh, man, those guys can MASH!!! We could get swept, no problem!!!", then I'd say he went overboard.

 

Well, I prefer them to be realistic but I don't want to hear a player talking about getting swept. I mean that's pretty obvious, but I don't want the players thinking/feeling that way. I just don't think it bodes well. Of course I could be wrong.

[WSoxMatt]

Look as if the Sox will miss CC at USCF!!! CLE will throw Millwood, Westbrook, and Elarton vs BMAC, Buehrle, and Garland!!

Edited September 16, 2005 by WSoxMatt

[The Critic]

Look as if the Sox will miss CC at USCF!!!

Thought I read somewhere that they'll miss Cliff Lee, too.

That's OK by me.

[LosMediasBlancas]

I feel you Bias. We all know the situation and the possiblilities, we just don't want to hear it coming from a player's mouth. Of course a player should be aware of possibly losing, but it should be the last thing on your mind. First comes thinking about it, then accepting it and then it sometimes actually happens.

[Balta1701]

I feel you Bias. We all know the situation and the possiblilities, we just don't want to hear it coming from a player's mouth. Of course a player should be aware of possibly losing, but it should be the last thing on your mind. First comes thinking about it, then accepting it and then it sometimes actually happens.

The question is this...is Buehrle "accepting" that they might lose, or is he trying to come up with some motivation by realizing they're not playing well, in the hopes that the realization that they're screwing up will help them not lose?

 

I think it's the latter. I don't think he's resigned to losing to them at all, I think he's trying to give the other players the swift kick in the arse that they need.

[spiderman]

I think the collar is tightening around the collective necks of the White Sox players, not no mention that they weren't as good as they played in the 1st half.

[Balta1701]

I think the collar is tightening around the collective necks of the White Sox players, not no mention that they weren't as good as they played in the 1st half.

I strongly disagree with this statement. This team could even have played better in the first half, especially if they could figure out the Oakland enigma. Top to bottom, this is a very good team.

[greasywheels121]

Another board referred to him as a "dark cloud" for saying this...:rolly

 

It's the right thing to say in my mind. They could sweep us. He's not saying they will. Anything to get this team back on track is needed right now.

[LosMediasBlancas]

The question is this...is Buehrle "accepting" that they might lose, or is he trying to come up with some motivation by realizing they're not playing well, in the hopes that the realization that they're screwing up will help them not lose?

 

I think it's the latter.  I don't think he's resigned to losing to them at all, I think he's trying to give the other players the swift kick in the arse that they need.

 

I doubt that. If at this point, this team needs to still 'realize' that they're playing poorly, they're done.

[3E8]

Thought I read somewhere that they'll miss Cliff Lee, too.

That's OK by me.

It should be discouraging news. The fact that we miss C.C. and Lee is bad because we cannot hit right-handed pitching. Lefties are the only reason our offense isn't worse (imagine that).

 

Believe it or not, NOBODY on this team is hitting above .280 against right-handed pitching. That is horrid.

[Milkman delivers]

Instead of someone trying to motivate the team by making saying some vague statement, I'd prefer Ozzie (or anyone, really) to start throwing chairs around in the clubhouse and flipping out and hyping these guys up.

Edited September 16, 2005 by Milkman delivers

[greasywheels121]

[Balta1701]

Instead of someone trying to motivate the team by making saying some vague statement, I'd prefer Ozzie (or anyone, really) to start throwing chairs around in the clubhouse and flipping out and hyping these guys up.

Do we know for a fact that he isn't?

[DonkeyKongerko]

Do we know for a fact that he isn't?

 

God I hope he isn't. Cuz if he is, it's not working and I'm out of ideas.

[BobDylan]

Since Ozzie didn't say it, I'm glad Mark did. Somebody needs to light a fire somewhere.

[nitetrain8601]

It bothers me that he says could. It's more like will the way the team is playing.

[nitetrain8601]

God I hope he isn't. Cuz if he is, it's not working and I'm out of ideas.

 

I agree. I think he's very late in deciding to play his opening day lineup for the stretch run. Like 2 weeks late.

 

If I'm Ozzie and Kenny I chew this team out completely. I want thrown chairs and Gatorade, broken doors, bent steel and cracked bats.

 

If this team chokes it away, I want to see it completely blown up. There is no excuse for this s***ty play.

[fathom]

If our team motto is win or die trying, then if the Sox don't win, Ozzie should be fired.

[sayitaintso]

Well it's not like Mark is lying.

[mmmmmbeeer]

I see MB as a leader on this team, whether I'm right or not is another story, but that's my perception.

 

A leader, be it in business, sports, or politics, should NEVER let the concept of defeat flow out of their mouths. Mark, if you wanna think in your head that we could get swept, fine, think it. But, as a leader, he should have NEVER said a word about the Sox getting swept. Hell, he's already failed on the "lead by example" front considering he can't seem to pitch a quality start, and now the word "sweep" is coming out of his mouth? We all know how baseball works, the fans and the players. We all know that a sweep is possible, especially considering the way they've been playing. But for a leader to confirm those suspicions is unacceptable, IMO.