whitesoxgt Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 HE SHOULDN'T BE!!!but unfortunately we have the one manager who would be dumb enough to do it and theres 2 reasons why 1.-) He's his close friend, ive realized that if ur good friends with him no matter what goes wrong ur job is secure (el duque getting lots of second chances and Freddy Garcia's inconsistancy) 2.-) Ozzies going to leave el duque in the roatation because hes a "big game pitcher and has playoff experience" wow, he cant even win a game for crying out loud. McCarthy's been Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 If he keeps starting, we won't have to worry about the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 El Duque was supposed to be a big game pitcher when he came to us. He was supposed to be a pitcher that could rise to the occasion, especially come playoff time. Today, we needed him to rise to the occasion. Today, we needed him to pitch against a weak hitting team like he was in the playoffs. Today was his chance to show he could still win big games. 3.1 innings. 4 runs. Nearly 100 pitches. He should be in long relief or mop up duty. He can't be a big game pitcher if he can't win a big game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxgt Posted September 18, 2005 Author Share Posted September 18, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 17, 2005 -> 07:25 PM) If he keeps starting, we won't have to worry about the playoffs. Whats wrong with McCarthy Ozzie?????? u said he wasn't a cy young winner, neither is Hernandez ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich McKinney Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 what playoffs? Dominican League? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyKongerko Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 I know this is a bit off topic and hopefully none of us hate El Duque as a person, but this guy has really been a class act this year. It's easy for me to see why Yankee fans really fell in love with this guy. He leaves everything out on the field and takes every single hit against him as a personal insult. Even after laying an egg in a crucial game vs. Minnesota, he still conducts himself with class and delivers the cold hard truth to the press that he just has no confidence in himself right now. I don't know if many others could do the same, it takes a big man to admit to your shortcomings like that. As for the Sox, I hope Hawk is praying to the baseball gods right now: "MERCY!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 QUOTE(DonkeyKongerko @ Sep 17, 2005 -> 08:32 PM) I know this is a bit off topic and hopefully none of us hate El Duque as a person, but this guy has really been a class act this year. It's easy for me to see why Yankee fans really fell in love with this guy. He leaves everything out on the field and takes every single hit against him as a personal insult. Even after laying an egg in a crucial game vs. Minnesota, he still conducts himself with class and delivers the cold hard truth to the press that he just has no confidence in himself right now. I don't know if many others could do the same, it takes a big man to admit to your shortcomings like that. As for the Sox, I hope Hawk is praying to the baseball gods right now: "MERCY!" Billy Koch said all the right things, too, but I don't want him on the mound for the Sox right now either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Montana Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 El Duque is not pitching well and he does not make me feel we have a shot at winning the ballgame when he trots the mound. I'll pass on El Duque and would love to see McCarthy take his spot in the rotation and I would not want Duque starting a playoff game, if we make it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 QUOTE(DonkeyKongerko @ Sep 17, 2005 -> 07:32 PM) I know this is a bit off topic and hopefully none of us hate El Duque as a person, but this guy has really been a class act this year. It's easy for me to see why Yankee fans really fell in love with this guy. Not being mean here, but being totally serious...do you think in the Offseason the Yankees would give us anything in exchange for him? If we picked up a portion of his contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 18, 2005 -> 12:25 AM) If he keeps starting, we won't have to worry about the playoffs. You have that correct. We can't afford to keep this guy starting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 Well, if you believe the articles in the Trib...it sure sounds like Even Ozzie is resigned to the fact that El Duque isn't going to be starting for us any more. At least, I hope that's what I'm reading in that paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 He'll be starting in the playoffs if we trade him to Cleveland. Couldn't resist the joke in these desperate times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 QUOTE(greg775 @ Sep 17, 2005 -> 10:20 PM) He'll be starting in the playoffs if we trade him to Cleveland. Couldn't resist the joke in these desperate times. Unfortunately...all the trade deadlines have come and gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 1-8 with a 6.01 era in his last 11 starts. But we got him for this time of year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 QUOTE(whitesoxgt @ Sep 18, 2005 -> 12:25 AM) HE SHOULDN'T BE!!!but unfortunately we have the one manager who would be dumb enough to do it and theres 2 reasons why 1.-) He's his close friend, ive realized that if ur good friends with him no matter what goes wrong ur job is secure (el duque getting lots of second chances and Freddy Garcia's inconsistancy) 2.-) Ozzies going to leave el duque in the roatation because hes a "big game pitcher and has playoff experience" wow, he cant even win a game for crying out loud. McCarthy's been No. He was the 5th SP in a playoff rotation of 4 guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 QUOTE(whitesoxgt @ Sep 17, 2005 -> 06:37 PM) Whats wrong with McCarthy Ozzie?????? u said he wasn't a cy young winner, neither is Hernandez ;-) Neither is anyone on the Sox staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxgt Posted September 19, 2005 Author Share Posted September 19, 2005 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2005 @ Sep 18, 2005 -> 06:15 AM) 1-8 with a 6.01 era in his last 11 starts. But we got him for this time of year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxgt Posted September 19, 2005 Author Share Posted September 19, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Sep 18, 2005 -> 08:05 AM) Neither is anyone on the Sox staff. exactly my point, whats the big deal , and then hes saying he has to check with Ken Williams to c if it would be the right thing to do. Of Course It Is, R u Kidding Me? http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb...t=.jsp&c_id=cws ~Mound conference: Manager Ozzie Guillen said Sunday that he is leaning toward starting rookie Brandon McCarthy over Orlando "El Duque" Hernandez against Santana and Minnesota on Thursday. Guillen already has talked to both pitchers, but will wait until he meets with general manager Ken Williams on Monday to make the decision official. ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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