Keep Writing the Sox Off, friends + foes

[beck72]

The sox came into this season being written off by most media baseball scribes, and a lot of fans [who I might add, weren't exactly hanging around sites like Soxtalk]. Why? The team was made up of castoffs and guys with something to prove which left them likely being a .500 team that should come in 3rd in the AL Central.

 

A team composed of guys like AJ [team cancer], Dye [old and washed up], Pods [a one yr wonder who'd likely hit .240 again], Contreras [a Yankee piece of trash with a 5.00 ERA], a 2bman from Japan, a fee swinging SS that has awful fielding mechanics, a daredevil CFer who certainly can't repeat a breakout yr he had in 2004, a team whose pitching staff ace is a 38th round draft pick, that lost two .290, .300, 30 Hr, 100 RBI guys in Maggs and CLee, shouldn't be near 1st place right?!

 

The 2005 sox didn't believe the experts. They believed in themselves more. They had something to prove. IMO, this is what drove them. They just took each game, each series in stride. Soon, they knew someone on the team, someway somehow would help them win.

 

They lost a little of their edge, after having the best record in baseball for so long. The aura of invincibility is certainly gone. But this was never their forte, their strength. This team is made of guys who have failed, who have been less than perfect, who have struggled a lot in their careers to get to this point. This is a roster filled with guys who have been more "question marks" than "all stars"

 

If a collection of guys can overcome this late season fade, the 2005 sox can. Call me a "homer", call me a fool, I don't care. But I came into this season believing this team could make the playoffs, and it's not far off. What they do with this chance, who knows. But I still feel this collection of castoffs will do well. How well who knows. But count me in as one who still believes. The bigger question may be, do they still believe?

[S720]

Can't sleep, can you Beck? Same here.

 

Great post! I still have the faith in our beloved White Sox. No matter what happens at the end, I'm going up or down with them. Should we take care of the Indians in the 6 remaining games we have with them like the four games we swept them after the Allstar game, we will be fine! Destiny, good or bad, is in our hands. And THE HELL WITH THE EXTERNAL MEDIA AND ALL. Noone gave a s*** about our team before the season started. Everyone outside of the White Sox Pride is now pulling for us to choke then collapse, especially that Brantley guy.

 

Guess what? The 2005 Chicago White Sox will make the playoff. Period!

[Felix]

I think thats a good question. Do they still believe in themselves enough to win? I know I do.

[GoodAsGould]

We win this game today and ill believe... we lost and i might start doubting..... this is a big game... a win would give us some confidence going into the Tribe Series.

[beck72]

Can't sleep, can you Beck?  Same here. 

 

Great post!  I still have the faith in our beloved White Sox.  No matter what happens at the end, I'm going up or down with them.  Should we take care of the Indians in the 6 remaining games we have with them like the four games we swept them after the Allstar game, we will be fine!  Destiny, good or bad, is in our hands.  And THE HELL WITH THE EXTERNAL MEDIA AND ALL.  Noone gave a s*** about our team before the season started.  Everyone outside of the White Sox Pride is now pulling for us to choke then collapse, especially that Brantley guy. 

 

Guess what?  The 2005 Chicago White Sox will make the playoff.  Period!

 

When you get up at 4am every morning, you post at odd hours.

 

The sox seem to play best when they have "a chip on their shoulders". That's because most of these guys do have something to prove. Maybe not to themselves. But to others. More importantly, they have to believe in each other and work together.

 

My guess is these guys will get the slide righted and be alright.

[beck72]

We win this game today and ill believe... we lost and i might start doubting..... this is a big game... a win would give us some confidence going into the Tribe Series.

 

The key is a win would give the sox players confidence. Make the flight home one that they can laugh a little, relax and get them in the right frame of mind for the Indians series.

[Dick Allen]

On Sep. 7 the lead was 9 1/2. People were starting to fret and doubt the Sox then. If this is what drives them and has them lose 6 games in the standings in 12 days with no head to head games against the compitition, I'd hate to see what would happen if nobody worried. This would be the biggest collapse in major league history. After looking like a AA team in KC, where they were lucky they weren't swept, they have scored a whopping 2 runs in 2 games in Minneapolis. I don't think the prospects for victory are very good Sunday afternoon. This team is choking big time.

[Jordan4life_2007]

On Sep. 7 the lead was 9 1/2. People were starting to fret and doubt the Sox then. If this is what drives them and has them lose 6 games in the standings in 12 days with no head to head games against the compitition, I'd hate to see what would happen if nobody worried. This would be the biggest collapse in major league history. After looking like a AA team in KC, where they were lucky they weren't swept, they have scored a whopping 2 runs in 2 games in Minneapolis. I don't think the prospects for victory are very good Sunday afternoon. This team is choking big time.

 

 

Other than you saying the prospects for us winning today aren't good, I agree with the rest of your post.

[nitetrain8601]

On Sep. 7 the lead was 9 1/2. People were starting to fret and doubt the Sox then. If this is what drives them and has them lose 6 games in the standings in 12 days with no head to head games against the compitition, I'd hate to see what would happen if nobody worried. This would be the biggest collapse in major league history. After looking like a AA team in KC, where they were lucky they weren't swept, they have scored a whopping 2 runs in 2 games in Minneapolis. I don't think the prospects for victory are very good Sunday afternoon. This team is choking big time.

 

I agree completely. Today we're facing a pitcher we haven't seen which means total shutdown for the offense.

[beck72]

On Sep. 7 the lead was 9 1/2. People were starting to fret and doubt the Sox then. If this is what drives them and has them lose 6 games in the standings in 12 days with no head to head games against the compitition, I'd hate to see what would happen if nobody worried. This would be the biggest collapse in major league history. After looking like a AA team in KC, where they were lucky they weren't swept, they have scored a whopping 2 runs in 2 games in Minneapolis. I don't think the prospects for victory are very good Sunday afternoon. This team is choking big time.

You make it sound like I think the sox have this planned all along. What I'm saying is people have written this team off all yr at various times. They continue to come back and play better ball. Maybe this team won't play the kind of ball they did at the beginning of the yr. Maybe they won't make the playoffs. But this team will fight. The players have that kind of makeup

 

As far as the prospects "don't look good" for a win this PM, I disagree. Lohse has been hit hard by the sox. And Jose C has thrown well. The offense should pick up.

 

As far as "choking big time", time will tell. Get back to me Oct. 3rd

[DBAHO]

I agree completely. Today we're facing a pitcher we haven't seen which means total shutdown for the offense.

See you're just giving up right there, not looking at the fact that we have our BEST pitcher on the mound for the 2nd half of the season. And FWIW, Kyle Lohse has a 4.79 ERA at home, with hitters hitting .304 of him.

 

Yep we're doomed.

[S720]

I agree completely. Today we're facing a pitcher we haven't seen which means total shutdown for the offense.

 

Other external peoples expecting us to collapse is one thing, but to see our very own fans having no faith in our team during this critical stretch of a pennant race is just unbelievably ABSURD! If you guys expect the Sox to lose the rest of the way, don't bother to watch the remaining games AND don't bother to spread your contagious, weak and inferior feelings to others who still have belief in our team. Heck, that's the only thing we have right now.

 

Buckle up, stand up and get ourselves ready for a very ROUGH ride, good or bad.

[3E8]

I agree completely. Today we're facing a pitcher we haven't seen which means total shutdown for the offense.

We've seen Lohse before. But I can tell you one thing, Konerko better not be in the lineup with Gload available. He is 6 for 46 lifetime off Lohse.

[Milkman delivers]

I think you're all missing a huge aspect. This team is not the same team they were at the beginning of the year. They're different teams, and this one sucks. They don't thrive off of being doubted, they fold and agree with the doubt. This team is just another piece of s*** White Sox team that we've become accustomed to.

[fathom]

I think you're all missing a huge aspect.  This team is not the same team they were at the beginning of the year.  They're different teams, and this one sucks.  They don't thrive off of being doubted, they fold and agree with the doubt.  This team is just another piece of s*** White Sox team that we've become accustomed to.

 

The starting pitchers are fatigued, Hermanson is hurt, and Pods can't run. Those were 3 of the main reasons we started off so well.

[The Critic]

If only the Sox could blow out the Twinks today, I think that would go a long way towards re-establishing their confidence.

[nitetrain8601]

We've seen Lohse before.  But I can tell you one thing, Konerko better not be in the lineup with Gload available.  He is 6 for 46 lifetime off Lohse.

 

I thought we were facing Liriano. We might get to Lohse. We better hope we do. Cleveland's up so they're not going to lose.

[NUKE_CLEVELAND]

The sox came into this season being written off by most media baseball scribes, and a lot of fans [who I might add, weren't exactly hanging around sites like Soxtalk]. Why? The team was made up of castoffs and guys with something to prove which left them likely being a .500 team that should come in 3rd in the AL Central.

 

A team composed of guys like AJ [team cancer], Dye [old and washed up], Pods [a one yr wonder who'd likely hit .240 again], Contreras [a Yankee piece of trash with a 5.00 ERA], a 2bman from Japan, a fee swinging SS that has awful fielding mechanics, a daredevil CFer who certainly can't repeat a breakout yr he had in 2004, a team whose pitching staff ace is a 38th round draft pick, that lost two .290, .300, 30 Hr, 100 RBI guys in Maggs and CLee, shouldn't be near 1st place right?!

 

The 2005 sox didn't believe the experts. They believed in themselves more. They had something to prove. IMO, this is what drove them. They just took each game, each series in stride. Soon, they knew someone on the team, someway somehow would help them win.

 

They lost a little of their edge, after having the best record in baseball for so long. The aura of invincibility is certainly gone. But this was never their forte, their strength. This team is made of guys who have failed, who have been less than perfect, who have struggled a lot in their careers to get to this point. This is a roster filled with guys who have been more "question marks" than "all stars"

 

If a collection of guys can overcome this late season fade, the 2005 sox can. Call me a "homer", call me a fool, I don't care. But I came into this season believing this team could make the playoffs, and it's not far off. What they do with this chance, who knows. But I still feel this collection of castoffs will do well. How well who knows. But count me in as one who still believes. The bigger question may be, do they still believe?

 

 

Beck I see what you're saying but is there anything about this teams play lately, in the stretch run when everything is on the line, that makes you think this team is motivated or has any heart?

[TLAK]

I was at a BBQ yesterday and about 3/4 of the crowd were Cub fans. They sounded exactly like some of the voices on this board. They all act like the year is already over. I had to remind them that [while theirs was], the Sox are 3-1/2 up with two weeks to play. I read these relentlessly critical posts and I swear I am back in cubdom.

 

Beck's got it right, the most exciting part of the season is yet to come, if anyone doesn't enjoy it -savor it, relish it- it's their own fault. I don't know how it will come out but it's been a hell of a ride and I'm staying all the way to the finish line.

 

The rest of you can go buy blue hats.

[elrockinMT]

The key is a win would give the sox players confidence. Make the flight home one that they can laugh a little, relax and get them in the right frame of mind for the Indians series.

 

 

I want them to win as much as any Sox fan on this board, but Beck you have to wonder if they have lost that edge that kept them coming back from diversity? I think they have the ability, but the next few days will tell if they have the heart. I still believe they do though. Go Sox!

[rangercal]

I think you're all missing a huge aspect.  This team is not the same team they were at the beginning of the year.  They're different teams, and this one sucks.  They don't thrive off of being doubted, they fold and agree with the doubt.  This team is just another piece of s*** White Sox team that we've become accustomed to.

Maybe we need Herbart Perry back

[beck72]

Beck I see what you're saying but is there anything about this teams play lately, in the stretch run when everything is on the line, that makes you think this team is motivated or has any heart?

 

So far this season, the sox have kept on coming back after losing streaks, poor play, and looking terrible. Many fans and experts have written them off, even before the Indians got red hot. Now most are aying "I told you so". They are still in first, and on pace to make the playoffs. That, IMO, and the fact that many of these guys have proven doubters wrong before in their careers, shows me they have heart.

 

And even while they've been losing, it's not due to lack of effort. They may play poorly, have bad games. But it's not due to guys "taking plays off".