The Ginger Kid Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Arguably the biggest series of the season (so far) just ended. Men: PK 5/12, .416 AJ 4/11, .363 Crede 4/12, .333 Uribe 3/11, .272 Jags: Rowand 1/8 .125 Pods 2/13, .153 Carl 2/11, .181 JD 2/10, .200 Gooch 3/14 .214 One, two, even three guys having an off series is understandable. But five? Including the 1,2,3 hitters??? It amazes me that the Sox won even one game these last three nights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Don't forget that our so-called aces all allowed at least 4 runs, and our bullpen was very mediocre during the series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted September 22, 2005 Author Share Posted September 22, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 21, 2005 -> 10:53 PM) Don't forget that our so-called aces all allowed at least 4 runs, and our bullpen was very mediocre during the series. I hear you, but the Sox were in every game until the 8th tonight when our brain dead caribbean manager allowed JG to pitch to the hottest hitter in the lineup. Which says to me that the pitching bent but did not break. Face it Fathom, the tribe is red hot at the plate and you're not going to shut them down. You have to find a way to score some runs and stay up with them. I actually thought our pitching was fair to good, considering the opponent. How I wish the Count could've pitched one game... Edited September 22, 2005 by The Ginger Kid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 05:58 AM) I hear you, but the Sox were in every game until the 8th tonight when our brain dead caribbean manager allowed JG to pitch to the hottest hitter in the lineup. Which says to me that the pitching bent but did not break. Face it Fathom, the tribe is red hot at the plate and you're not going to shut them down. You have to find a way to score some runs and stay up with them. I actually thought our pitching was fair to good, considering the opponent. How I wish the Count could've pitched one game... Indians are just a phenomenal team right now, as they're clicking on all cylinders. Right now, the Sox have a very inconsistent offense, inconsistent starting pitching, shaky relief pitching, terrible base running, poor execution, and a consistently poor manager. SO YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S A CHANCE?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 12:53 AM) Don't forget that our so-called aces all allowed at least 4 runs, and our bullpen was very mediocre during the series. I will admit, right now, I did not see the game. But from what I can tell, Garland was pretty much done after 7. Sending him out in the 8th is just not the right decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 06:07 AM) I will admit, right now, I did not see the game. But from what I can tell, Garland was pretty much done after 7. Sending him out in the 8th is just not the right decision. Same story, just another night. You can sub out the players name for another starter, and we have the same situation every game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted September 22, 2005 Author Share Posted September 22, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 21, 2005 -> 11:08 PM) Same story, just another night. You can sub out the players name for another starter, and we have the same situation every game. It would've been nice to hold the lead to 2-0 and see if the sox couldn't muster another rally. It's just sad that Garland pitched so damn good only to be strung out like that and made to pay the price by Travis "call me Bonds" Hafner. If the Sox do make the playoffs, at least they won't see the tribe in the first round!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Face it. Cleveland right now is alot better team than the Sox are. Lets hope KC gets some light under their asses for some reason, and takes 1 this weekend, else we have a monumental task... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted September 22, 2005 Author Share Posted September 22, 2005 The only way this team is going to change their fortunes is if Pods, Iguchi and Carl pull out of it. I don't give a damn what anyone says, the pitching is not the problem. And you're right - Cleveland is playing out of their minds. But the Sox still have a LEAD!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Sox Fan Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Pods gagged big time, IMO. Three strikeouts last night? We had the lead in game one and blew it late. Bullpen has to be held accountable for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyKongerko Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Rowand and JD were disappointing in the field as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Everett is now batting .169 with a .596 OPS for the f***ing month of September. Keep trotting this long looping swinging fool who is going for the dong every single AB out there as the number 3 hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Cleveland's #9 hitter has the same amount of home runs and is only hitting .006 lower than the Sox #3 hitter. That's pathetic. Hey Hawk, where would he play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LauraJ14 Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 QUOTE(DonkeyKongerko @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 09:22 AM) Rowand and JD were disappointing in the field as well. Cleveland's defense didn't wow me this series, especially last night when Belliard on a popup to second basically made Blake run almost to the infield dirt to catch while he stood and pointed to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 QUOTE(LauraJ14 @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 09:46 AM) Cleveland's defense didn't wow me this series, especially last night when Belliard on a popup to second basically made Blake run almost to the infield dirt to catch while he stood and pointed to it. The difference is that you can play over mistakes if you are raking the ball, and pitching well. Which they did. When we make a mistake it can cost us the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyKongerko Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 I agree Cleveland's defense is noticeably sub-par. I was disappointed in our defense because that is something the Sox have prided themselves of this year. It seems to desert us at the most inopportune times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 (edited) And Ozzie continues to bat Carl 3rd for some reason. Mind-boggling. The worst #3 hitter out of all the playoff contenders. Edited September 22, 2005 by BigSqwert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 05:43 PM) And Ozzie continues to bat Carl 3rd for some reason. Mind-boggling. The worst #3 hitter out of all the playoff contenders. And he's in a massive slump also. Even when he's hitting decent, he was still a below average 3 hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 12:50 PM) And he's in a massive slump also. Even when he's hitting decent, he was still a below average 3 hitter. The guy had a very good April. That's all he's really done IMO. Doesn't mean he should still be batting 3rd in September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 05:51 PM) The guy had a very good April. That's all he's really done IMO. Doesn't mean he should still be batting 3rd in September. I have to say this "where would he play?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 12:52 PM) I have to say this "where would he play?" Drop him down to 5th or 6th in the lineup. He can still be the DH since we really have no one else to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 2006 outlook. Make Pods the DH, get a real LF that can hit #3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted September 22, 2005 Author Share Posted September 22, 2005 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 10:43 AM) And Ozzie continues to bat Carl 3rd for some reason. Mind-boggling. The worst #3 hitter out of all the playoff contenders. Ozzie's afraid of pissing him off and screwing with CHEMISTRY. Carl's volatile. And for everyone who said I was full of s*** when I suggested that a 12 game lead in July prevented the Sox from pulling a trigger on a trade? :finger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 QUOTE(knightni @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 06:04 PM) 2006 outlook. Make Pods the DH, get a real LF that can hit #3. Better suggestion would be to trade him to a team desperate for a leadoff hitter. I know it won't happen, but a lot of teams might overpay for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 01:53 PM) Better suggestion would be to trade him to a team desperate for a leadoff hitter. I know it won't happen, but a lot of teams might overpay for him. If they gave KW a #2 pencil they would be overpaying for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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