winninguglyin83 Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 (edited) Somebody confirm this is correct: Yankees and Red Sox have each lost 64. They play three games to finish the season. That means that one of the two will finish with a minimum of 66 losses. If we win four of the last eight, we would be 97-65. Therefore, unless I'm missing something, four more wins by us secures the wildcard? Right? Sure, I'd rather stand up to Cleveland and win the division. But one step at a time is fine with me. Edited September 25, 2005 by winninguglyin83 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSoxMatt Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 QUOTE(winninguglyin83 @ Sep 25, 2005 -> 06:53 AM) Somebody confirm this is correct: Yankees and Red Sox have each lost 64. They play three games to finish the season. That means that one of the two will finish with a minimum of 66 losses. If we win four of the last eight, we would be 97-65. Therefore, unless I'm missing something, four more wins by us secures the wildcard? Right? Sure, I'd rather stand up to Cleveland and win the division. But one step at a time is fine with me. Theoretically 4, Technically 6... you cant take games off that havent been played yet!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyKongerko Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 http://riot.ieor.berkeley.edu/%7Ebaseball/...can_league.html Just add one to the "Clinch playoff" number here. That means 4 more wins and we are without a doubt in the postseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneyman6544 Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 This just made me think. When was the last time the AL Central had two teams in the play offs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 QUOTE(moneyman6544 @ Sep 25, 2005 -> 12:06 PM) This just made me think. When was the last time the AL Central had two teams in the play offs? Never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 (edited) 93-61 CWS: 1vMIN, 4@DET, 3@CLE 92-63 CLE: 1@KCR, 3vTBD,3vCWS 90-64 BOS:1@BAL, 4vTBJ,3vNYY 90-64 NYY: 1vTBJ,4@BAL,3@BOS 85-69 OAK: 1vTEX,4vLAA,3@SEA 89-65 LAA: 1vTBD,4@OAK,3@TEX H2H BOS-NYY means a best case 96-66 for one of them. With 3 more wins the CWS can do no worse than tie the #2 ALE. I think that means a 1 gm playoff for the WC. tie WC: To avoid elimination from WC contention CWS need 3 more wins. win WC: To guarantee at least a WC spot in the ALDS CWS need 4 more wins. clinch ALHF: To clinch the ALC+ALHF the CWS need 6 more wins. Edited September 25, 2005 by JUGGERNAUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 Can we take the Indians and convince them to put on hats that say "NY" when they play Tampa Bay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 25, 2005 -> 02:01 PM) Can we take the Indians and convince them to put on hats that say "NY" when they play Tampa Bay? I think Tampa is going to play Cle tough. Tampa has been giving the Angels a series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 QUOTE(Mr. Showtime @ Sep 25, 2005 -> 12:05 PM) I think Tampa is going to play Cle tough. Tampa has been giving the Angels a series. I think the Angels have won something like 7 in a row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 25, 2005 -> 02:11 PM) I think the Angels have won something like 7 in a row. 8. I'm just making the point that Tampa won't be a cakewalk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 QUOTE(Mr. Showtime @ Sep 25, 2005 -> 02:17 PM) 8. I'm just making the point that Tampa won't be a cakewalk. Unlike f***in' KC who just seems to roll over and die for Cleveland, but actually plays the Sox tough. (I know that's not what happened...but holy hell does it look like that) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Sep 25, 2005 -> 01:37 PM) 93-61 CWS: 1vMIN, 4@DET, 3@CLE 92-63 CLE: 1@KCR, 3vTBD,3vCWS 90-64 BOS:1@BAL, 4vTBJ,3vNYY 90-64 NYY: 1vTBJ,4@BAL,3@BOS 85-69 OAK: 1vTEX,4vLAA,3@SEA 89-65 LAA: 1vTBD,4@OAK,3@TEX H2H BOS-NYY means a best case 96-66 for one of them. With 3 more wins the CWS can do no worse than tie the #2 ALE. I think that means a 1 gm playoff for the WC. tie WC: To avoid elimination from WC contention CWS need 3 more wins. win WC: To guarantee at least a WC spot in the ALDS CWS need 4 more wins. clinch ALHF: To clinch the ALC+ALHF the CWS need 6 more wins. Who is TBJ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSFAN35 Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 QUOTE(knightni @ Sep 25, 2005 -> 03:48 PM) Who is TBJ? jays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 Here goes a try at the current numbers (Sunday Evening) Yank/Bo Sox 91-65 with 6 games remaining White Sox 94 wins If both the BoSox and Yankees win all three games to start this week, they would be sitting at 94 wins going into the final weekend. Possible outcomes 3-0 Wildcard winner would need 95 wins (Sox need 1) 2-1 One team finishes with 96 the other 95 (Sox need 2) As Freddy Prinz would say "Loooking Goood!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 QUOTE(Texsox @ Sep 25, 2005 -> 04:34 PM) Here goes a try at the current numbers (Sunday Evening) Yank/Bo Sox 91-65 with 6 games remaining White Sox 94 wins If both the BoSox and Yankees win all three games to start this week, they would be sitting at 94 wins going into the final weekend. Possible outcomes 3-0 Wildcard winner would need 95 wins (Sox need 1) 2-1 One team finishes with 96 the other 95 (Sox need 2) As Freddy Prinz would say "Loooking Goood!" Tex you're math is off a bit because the yankees and the redsox each have 7 games left. Just add one win to what you said, 3 wins and we clinch the wildcard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyKongerko Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 QUOTE(Texsox @ Sep 25, 2005 -> 05:34 PM) Here goes a try at the current numbers (Sunday Evening) Yank/Bo Sox 91-65 with 6 games remaining White Sox 94 wins If both the BoSox and Yankees win all three games to start this week, they would be sitting at 94 wins going into the final weekend. Possible outcomes 3-0 Wildcard winner would need 95 wins (Sox need 1) 2-1 One team finishes with 96 the other 95 (Sox need 2) As Freddy Prinz would say "Loooking Goood!" Would be good except the Yanks and BoSox are both 91-64 so the Sox need 3 wins to clinch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 The site I jumped on had them at 65 loses. Thanks for spotting that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted September 26, 2005 Author Share Posted September 26, 2005 three wins indeed clinches wildcard. That would take some pressure off the boys as they head into Cleveland. THIS TIME the Sox could play relaxed -- and the freakin heat would be on The Tribe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 94-61 CWS: 4@DET, 3@CLE 92-64 CLE: 3vTBD,3vCWS 91-64 BOS: 4vTBJ,3vNYY 91-64 NYY: 4@BAL,3@BOS 85-70 OAK: 4vLAA,3@SEA 89-66 LAA: 4@OAK,3@TEX tie WC: 2 more wins. win WC: 3 more wins. win ALC: 4 more wins. win ALHF: 5 more wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony72 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Sep 26, 2005 -> 12:31 PM) 94-61 CWS: 4@DET, 3@CLE 92-64 CLE: 3vTBD,3vCWS 91-64 BOS: 4vTBJ,3vNYY 91-64 NYY: 4@BAL,3@BOS 85-70 OAK: 4vLAA,3@SEA 89-66 LAA: 4@OAK,3@TEX tie WC: 2 more wins. win WC: 3 more wins. win ALC: 4 more wins. win ALHF: 5 more wins. Also subtract any games the Red Sox and Yankees lose before they play each other... NY (4 with Bal) BOS (4 with Tor) So - hope Baltimore and Toronto manage to win just one game of each 4 game series..then 2 wins would secure wild card.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S720 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Sep 26, 2005 -> 12:31 PM) 94-61 CWS: 4@DET, 3@CLE 92-64 CLE: 3vTBD,3vCWS 91-64 BOS: 4vTBJ,3vNYY 91-64 NYY: 4@BAL,3@BOS 85-70 OAK: 4vLAA,3@SEA 89-66 LAA: 4@OAK,3@TEX tie WC: 2 more wins. win WC: 3 more wins. win ALC: 4 more wins. win ALHF: 5 more wins. If we win 4 straight games against the Tigers but lose 3 consecutive games to the Indians while the Indians win all of its 6 remaining games, the White Sox and the Indians will have the same record. If this situation unfortunately occurs, do we win the division by a tiebreaker rule, or do we have to play a one-game playoff series with the Indians to determine the winner of ALC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 QUOTE(S720 @ Sep 26, 2005 -> 12:42 PM) If we win 4 straight games against the Tigers but lose 3 consecutive games to the Indians while the Indians win all of its 6 remaining games, the White Sox and the Indians will have the same record. If this situation unfortunately occurs, do we win the division by a tiebreaker rule, or do we have to play a one-game playoff series with the Indians to determine the winner of ALC? I read on one site that head to head is the tie breaker when both teams would get in. A game is played only if it means one team would go home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 QUOTE(Texsox @ Sep 26, 2005 -> 11:48 AM) I read on one site that head to head is the tie breaker when both teams would get in. A game is played only if it means one team would go home. That is what I read as well. BOTH need to be guaranteed a spot in the playoffs in order to throw out the tiebreaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 You are correct. If we sweep the Tiggers & the Indians win out we would win the division on the basis of H2H. For the Indians to earn the right to a 1 gm playoff as a tie-breaker a non ALC team would need to win the WC with a better record than the ALC teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 For those who didn't know: TBD pre-AS break: 28-61 TBD pos-AS break: 37-30 TBD @CLE (Aug 12-14) : 3W-0L following a sweep at the hands of the O's Aug 12: Hendrickson W, Westbrook L, Baez S Aug 13: McClung W, Elarton L Aug 14: Borowski W, Wickman L, Baez S Tampa seems better suited to play at the Jake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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