KipWellsFan Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 (edited) http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c...MNGD7ETMNM1.DTL A Chronicle review of more than 2,000 pages of testimony, as well as interviews with Pat Tillman’s family members and soldiers who served with him, found contradictions, inaccuracies and what appears to be the military’s attempt at self-protection. For example, the documents contain testimony of the first investigating officer alleging that Army officials allowed witnesses to change key details in their sworn statements so his finding that certain soldiers committed “gross negligence” could be softened. Interviews also show a side of Pat Tillman not widely known — a fiercely independent thinker who enlisted, fought and died in service to his country yet was critical of President Bush and opposed the war in Iraq, where he served a tour of duty. He was an avid reader whose interests ranged from history books on World War II and Winston Churchill to works of leftist Noam Chomsky, a favorite author. Unlike Cindy Sheehan — who has protested against President Bush because of the death of her son Casey in combat in Baghdad — Mary Tillman, 49, who teaches in a San Jose public junior high school, and her ex-husband, Patrick Tillman, 50, a San Jose lawyer, have avoided association with the anti-war movement. Their main public allies are Sen. John McCain, RAriz., and Rep. Mike Honda, D-San Jose, who have lobbied on their behalf. Yet the case has high stakes because of Pat Tillman’s status as an all-American hero. ... Although the Rangers are an elite combat group, the investigative documents reveal that the conduct of the Tillmans’ detachment — A Company, 2nd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment — appeared to be anything but expert as it advanced through a remote canyon in eastern Afghanistan on April 22, 2004, on a mission to search for Taliban and al Qaeda fighters in a village called Manah. According to the files, when one of the humvees became disabled, thus stalling the mission, commanding officers split Tillman’s platoon in two so one half could move on and the other could arrange transport for the disabled vehicle. Platoon leader Lt. David Uthlaut protested the move as dangerous, but he was overruled. The first group was ordered out in the late afternoon, with Pat Tillman in the forward unit. Kevin’s unit followed 15 to 20 minutes later, hauling the humvee on an Afghan-owned flatbed truck. Both groups temporarily lost radio and visual contact with each other in the deep canyon, and the second group came under attack from suspected Taliban fighters on the surrounding ridges. Pat Tillman, according to testimony, climbed a hill with another soldier and an Afghan militiaman, intending to attack the enemy. He offered to remove his 28-pound body armor so he could move more quickly, but was ordered not to. Meanwhile, the lead vehicle in the platoon’s second group arrived near Tillman’s position about 65 meters away and mistook the group as enemy. The Afghan stood and fired above the second group at the suspected enemy on the opposite ridge. Although the driver of the second group’s lead vehicle, according to his testimony, recognized Tillman’s group as “friendlies” and tried to signal others in his vehicle not to shoot, they directed fire toward the Afghan and began shooting wildly, without first identifying their target, and also shot at a village on the ridgeline. The Afghan was killed. According to testimony, Tillman, who along with others on the hill waved his arms and yelled “cease fire,” set off a smoke grenade to identify his group as fellow soldiers. There was a momentary lull in the firing, and he and the soldier next to him, thinking themselves safe, relaxed, stood up and started talking. But the shooting resumed. Tillman was hit in the wrist with shrapnel and in his body armor with numerous bullets. The soldier next to him testified: “I could hear the pain in his voice as he called out, ‘Cease fire, friendlies, I am Pat f—ing Tillman, dammit.” He said this over and over until he stopped,” having been hit by three bullets in the forehead, killing him. The soldier continued, “I then looked over at my side to see a river of blood coming down from where he was … I saw his head was gone.” Two other Rangers elsewhere on the mountainside were injured by shrapnel. ... “The administration clearly was using this case for its own political reasons,” said the father, Patrick Tillman. “This cover-up started within minutes of Pat’s death, and it started at high levels. This is not something that (lower-ranking) people in the field do,” he said. ... A soldier who on April 23 burned Tillman’s bullet riddled body armor — which would have been evidence in a friendly-fire investigation — testified that he did so because there was no doubt it was friendly fire that killed Tillman. Two days later, Tillman’s uniform and vest also were burned because they were soaked in blood and considered a biohazard. Tillman’s uniform also was burned. “I can see it like a movie screen,” Baer said. “We were outside of (a city in southern Iraq) watching as bombs were dropping on the town. We were at an old air base, me, Kevin and Pat, we weren’t in the fight right then. We were talking. And Pat said, ‘You know, this war is so f— illegal.’ And we all said, ‘Yeah.’ That’s who he was. He totally was against Bush.” Another soldier in the platoon, who asked not to be identified, said Pat urged him to vote for Bush’s Democratic opponent in the 2004 election, Sen. John Kerry. Tons more at link Edited September 26, 2005 by KipWellsFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxy Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Boooooo, you whore! I thought this story was going to be about Universal Grammar. Now my day is ruined. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted September 29, 2005 Author Share Posted September 29, 2005 Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter refuse to believe that Pat Tillman wasn't a Bush or Iraq War supporter. http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Hannity-C...ter-Tillman.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Sep 29, 2005 -> 12:13 AM) Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter refuse to believe that Pat Tillman wasn't a Bush or Iraq War supporter. http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Hannity-C...ter-Tillman.mov Coulter just keeps throwing more s*** at the wall and sees what sticks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benchwarmerjim Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Sep 26, 2005 -> 11:28 AM) http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c...MNGD7ETMNM1.DTL Tons more at link wow. pretty amazing story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighHeat45 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Odd how every single soldier who dies doesnt support the war or Bush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 why did pat tillman hate america? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 QUOTE(56789 @ Sep 29, 2005 -> 07:16 PM) Odd how every single soldier who dies doesnt support the war or Bush. maybe three f***ing shots to the forehead by friendly fire changes a mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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