Needs for next year

[Rowand44]

Gid rid of el duque somehow. Sign Mueller or Furcal, trade Rowand and Marte for Chad Tracey or someone that could bat 3rd and let Anderson play center. Get a left handed long reliever. Most importantly we got to resign pauly and this coming from someone who had seen enough of PK in the first half.

 

Obviously these are just my realistic ways to upgrade the team as of right now.

[Rowand44]

Mine is

 

PodsCF

Furcal SS

Giles Dh

Konerko 1b

Dye    RF

AJ        C

Iguchi 2nd

Anderson LF

Crede      3rd

 

bench  uribe ,rowand.ozuna,widger

 

pitching

 

Buerhle

Garcia

count

Garland

BMACK

 

I'd rather have pauly in center then pods.

[Buehrle>Wood]

Oh yes, I forgot.

 

 

We could use a Bullpen make-over as well.

[Wise Master Buehrle]

Todd f***ing Helton.

 

Make this trade, we need a superstar. He's the man. The Rockies should be willing to listen to deals.

[Commander Fisk]

Guys we definately keep;

 

Konerko

Thomas

Garland

 

Guys to get rid of:

 

Marte

Everett

Pods

El Douche Bag

Ozzie

Harold "smelling salts" Baines

Walker

Cora

 

and just about the entire bench except Anderson.

 

Also, get a real left fielder somewhere.

Edited September 28, 2005 by Commander Fisk

[Rowand44]

Todd f***ing Helton.

 

Make this trade, we need a superstar. He's the man. The Rockies should be willing to listen to deals.

Helton's power numbers just died this year for whatever reason and that contract scares the hell out of me with the way his power took a hit this year.

[DBAHO]

Todd f***ing Helton.

 

Make this trade, we need a superstar. He's the man. The Rockies should be willing to listen to deals.

Colorado have repeatedly said they won't deal him, and if they will, he has a lot of $$ on his deal, plus they'll want some real good prospects. And as Rowand just said about the power numbers at Coors.

[Rowand44]

Guys we definately keep;

 

Konerko

Thomas

Garland

 

Guys to get rid of:

 

Marte

Everett

Pods

El Douche Bag

Ozzie

Harold "smelling salts" Baines

Walker

Cora

 

and just about the entire bench except Anderson.

 

Also, get a real left fielder somewhere.

 

Let me guess: Pods isn't a real left fielder cause he doesn't hit for power?

[DBAHO]

For all the lineups that have Giles, Konerko AND Furcal in it, dream on. We'll be lucky to have 1 one of those guys in our team next season.

[Wise Master Buehrle]

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 09:20 PM)

Helton's power numbers just died this year for whatever reason and that contract scares the hell out of me with the way his power took a hit this year.

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Any better suggestions?

 

Furcal? Giles? Any FA's out there look good? No.

 

We need a .300 hitter. That's all there is to it. f*** power. We have plenty of it. Helton's hitting f***in' .323, that's beautiful and what we need. A consistent hitter. Power will come, but we need consistency.

[Rowand44]

Any better suggestions?

 

Furcal? Giles? Any FA's out there look good? No.

 

We need a .300 hitter. That's all there is to it. f*** power. We have plenty of it. Helton's hitting f***in' .323, that's beautiful and what we need. A consistent hitter. Power will come, but we need consistency.

I actually love Helton, yahtzee. But that drastic drop in power at coors just scares me, don't forget that coors will add points to your average too. If his contract wasn't enormous I'd be all for it but he just worries me, that is all.

[Wise Master Buehrle]

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 09:21 PM)

Colorado have repeatedly said they won't deal him, and if they will, he has a lot of $$ on his deal, plus they'll want some real good prospects. And as Rowand just said about the power numbers at Coors.

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You said it yourself, the contract. I find it hard to believe they wouldn't make or attempt to make a deal especially since the Great Prospect Dealer Kenny Williams would probably make them an amazing offer.

 

Offer up some of our pitching. Garland, Garcia, McCarthy, Contreras?

Edited September 28, 2005 by YahtzeeSox

[Wise Master Buehrle]

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 09:24 PM)

I actually love Helton, yahtzee.  But that drastic drop in power at coors just scares me, don't forget that coors will add points to your average too.  If his contract wasn't enormous I'd be all for it but he just worries me, that is all.

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That's fine but The Cell is also a hitters park. He may only hit .310 here but that's still far and away better than anything we have. We don't have one single .300 hitter, and we need one real bad.

Edited September 28, 2005 by YahtzeeSox

[DBAHO]

Any better suggestions?

 

Furcal? Giles? Any FA's out there look good? No.

 

We need a .300 hitter. That's all there is to it. f*** power. We have plenty of it. Helton's hitting f***in' .323, that's beautiful and what we need. A consistent hitter. Power will come, but we need consistency.

Nomar Garciaparra.

Erubiel Durazo.

Reggie Sanders.

Mike Piazza.

Daryle Ward.

Jacque Jones.

Preston Wilson.

Jeromy Burnitz.

 

Most likely if it's anyone to DH from FA it's gonna be one of these guys. The cost for Helton is gonna be too great.

[Rowand44]

You said it yourself, the contract. I find it hard to believe they wouldn't make or attempt to make a deal especially since the Great Prospect Dealer Kenny Williams will probably make them an amazing offer.

 

Offer up some of our pitching. Garland, Garcia, McCarthy, Contreras?

Lets not forget here that this team does have 94 wins, this has been rough as of late but this is still a very good team and the reason is because of the pitching. I was all for trading Contreras but with the way he's carried this staff the past 2 months I want to hang onto this guy and the other 3 were never on my trade list, those guys need to stay. We can upgrade our offense without downgrading the pitching, actually our pitching should be better next season.

[DBAHO]

You said it yourself, the contract. I find it hard to believe they wouldn't make or attempt to make a deal especially since the Great Prospect Dealer Kenny Williams would probably make them an amazing offer.

 

Offer up some of our pitching. Garland, Garcia, McCarthy, Contreras?

He's still the main marketable guy in Colorado. They need somebody to help them put butts in seats, and they don't have an option at 1B to replace him. And would I deal one of those 4 pitching guys for him? No. It's easier to find a good bat than to find good pitching. A guy like Casey Rogowski who's hit over .300 down at B-Ham could be an option as well.

[Wise Master Buehrle]

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 09:27 PM)

Nomar Garciaparra.

Erubiel Durazo.

Reggie Sanders.

Mike Piazza.

Daryle Ward.

Jacque Jones.

Preston Wilson.

Jeromy Burnitz.

 

Most likely if it's anyone to DH from FA it's gonna be one of these guys. The cost for Helton is gonna be too great.

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:puke

 

Those guys aren't any more consistent than the players we already have. We need a bonafide superstar. I'll stand by this because this offense is way too inconsistent and if we had just 1 guy who didn't slump 1 week hit 1 week slump next week hit next week, but rather get 1 or 2 hits a day with a few o'fers mixed in, instead of o'fer-the-week, we'd already be in excellent position to win the division next year.

[CWSGuy406]

Nomar Garciaparra.

Erubiel Durazo.

 

I'll glady take these two, along with a trade for Chad Tracy.

 

You improve your offense a bunch just by adding these two (not counting Durazo). And, I'm talking Nomar at third -- money talks, and I doubt teams are going to be chomping at the bit to sign him as a SS -- though I could be wrong.

 

His bat makes up for his defensive inefficincies, plus he's versataile, you can hit him pretty much anywhere from #2-6.

 

Make.Me.Happy. No one else. Just me.

[Rowand44]

He's still the main marketable guy in Colorado. They need somebody to help them put butts in seats, and they don't have an option at 1B to replace him. And would I deal one of those 4 pitching guys for him? No. It's easier to find a good bat than to find good pitching. A guy like Casey Rogowski who's hit over .300 down at B-Ham could be an option as well.

 

Don't you think your boy in zona could be had for aaron and marte? I'd be willing to bet that Anderson can atleast put up the same type of numbers Aaron has this season in center.

[Wise Master Buehrle]

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 09:27 PM)

Lets not forget here that this team does have 94 wins, this has been rough as of late but this is still a very good team and the reason is because of the pitching.  I was all for trading Contreras but with the way he's carried this staff the past 2 months I want to hang onto this guy and the other 3 were never on my trade list, those guys need to stay.  We can upgrade our offense without downgrading the pitching, actually our pitching should be better next season.

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Yeah, we do have 94 wins. But we also have a dynasty breathing down our necks. Cleveland is here to stay for the next 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 years until they decide to do it all over again.

 

We need to be able to compete in this division and to do this we need a superstar. Don't get me wrong, if we didn't get a superstar we'd still compete fine in this division, but it would be a lot harder.

[nitetrain8601]

I'll glady take these two, along with a trade for Chad Tracy.

 

You improve your offense a bunch just by adding these two (not counting Durazo).  And, I'm talking Nomar at third -- money talks, and I doubt teams are going to be chomping at the bit to sign him as a SS -- though I could be wrong.

 

His bat makes up for his defensive inefficincies, plus he's versataile, you can hit him pretty much anywhere from #2-6. 

 

Make.Me.Happy.  No one else.  Just me. 

 

I'd take Nomar at least as a DH. I don't know if I want Durazo. I would try to trade for Texieria(trade Young, Rogowski, and a Lumsden; give or take a little). I would also look at Jim Thome for DH. He absolutely would rake at the Cell. Yes, he's been injured this year, but the only guys worth going for in the offseaon this year IMHO are guys who have injury concerns.

[DBAHO]

Don't you think your boy in zona could be had for aaron and marte?  I'd be willing to bet that Anderson can atleast put up the same type of numbers Aaron has this season in center.

Yep. I would deal for Chad Tracy a Million Times in a row before I'd deal for Todd Helton right now. I don't think Arizona would take Rowand, they're stocked in the OF and have Shawn Green there at the moment. Now a 3 way deal, with Rowand going to a team like the Yankees in CF could be a possibility.

 

Arizona needs young pitching in a big way though. A guy like Daniel Haigwood who's an Arizona Native could be attractive to them.

[Rowand44]

I would try to trade for Texieria(trade Young, Rogowski, and a Lumsden; give or take a little).

No offense nite but it'd take a s***load more then that to trade for tex, to be honest, he ain't going anywhere for a long long time.

Edited September 28, 2005 by Rowand44

[DBAHO]

I'd take Nomar at least as a DH. I don't know if I want Durazo. I would try to trade for Texieria(trade Young, Rogowski, and a Lumsden; give or take a little). I would also look at Jim Thome for DH. He absolutely would rake at the Cell. Yes, he's been injured this year, but the only guys worth going for in the offseaon this year IMHO are guys who have injury concerns.

Durazo's a risk. But if you could get him for say $1 or 2M for 1 year with incentives, he could rake at the Cell too. Remember he had a +.900 OPS in Oakland in 2003.

 

Thome's an option I've put forward as well, but Philly would have to pay at least half of his deal. You wouldn't have to give up as much for him as Helton though because of his back, unless they decide to trade Ryan Howard instead.........

[DBAHO]

No offense nite but it'd take a s***load more then that to trade for tex, to be honest, he ain't going anywhere for a long long time.

Yeah all these "I want Tex" posts I've seen in the last week is all moot because Scott Bora$$ is his agent, and Texas may just deal him for that reason alone.