Rowand44 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 10:38 PM) I bet Boston will find a guy not necessarily with speed, but a guy that can get on base. Screw it, lets get Durazo and make him our leadoff hitter. At least we could have a leadoff hitter that could knock in more than 30 runs in a full season. Cmon now, Pods had the great obp's of Juan and Crede hitting ahead of him all year long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 04:39 AM) I fear you underestimate the grind of 162 games on a body. 1st off, no one, NO ONE, is 100%. 2nd, the fact of the matter is that the team as a whole is slacking. Look at how it was clicking in the 1st half. The team lost that mentality and it has hampered everyones play. He had his two week DL trip to recover (for an injury that I'm not quite sure was ever too serious). All along, the Sox organization talked about resting his legs for the stretch run. Well, the stretch run has been going on, and Pods has been basically mediocre all around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 10:39 PM) I fear you underestimate the grind of 162 games on a body. 1st off, no one, NO ONE, is 100%. 2nd, the fact of the matter is that the team as a whole is slacking. Look at how it was clicking in the 1st half. The team lost that mentality and it has hampered everyones play. So how do you explain the surging Indians and Yankees? Fact is, Pods had his resting time and he had more than enough time to get back on track to do what he's supposed to do. He isn't doing it which makes him a liability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 04:39 AM) Cmon now, Pods had the great obp's of Juan and Crede hitting ahead of him all year long. His slugging percentage is less than .300 with RISP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 12:37 AM) You don't think OPS is an important stat? Never said it wasn't an important stat. Stat's are overrated in baseball and I have said this many times and I hate to sound like Hawk but it's about what he does for the team that doesnt get recorded as a stat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 10:40 PM) He had his two week DL trip to recover (for an injury that I'm not quite sure was ever too serious). All along, the Sox organization talked about resting his legs for the stretch run. Well, the stretch run has been going on, and Pods has been basically mediocre all around. Groin injuries are nagging as all hell and for someone who runs that's about as bad of an injury as you can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirScott Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 QUOTE(mr_genius @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 08:50 PM) yea, I don't see this team going anywhere... offense is just far to weak ummmmm...that's why the title of this thread would be "Needs for next year" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 02:38 PM) Look at his numbers with RISP. His OPS is way low. His OBP isn't that of a great leadoff hitter. He doesn't have many triples for a guy with tremendous speed. His defense isn't good. He's a nice player and an asset. This team, however, doesn't need assets, it needs guys they can rely on. In the first half, Pods was doing his job. After that he went to s***. Like I've said before, the most worthless .300 hitter. Scott Podsednik OBP in 2005 - .353 Willie Harris OBP in 2004 - .343 Pods lack of power, BA/RISP, OPS in a corner position, where power is VITAL, doesn't make up for his stolen base ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 12:40 AM) So how do you explain the surging Indians and Yankees? Fact is, Pods had his resting time and he had more than enough time to get back on track to do what he's supposed to do. He isn't doing it which makes him a liability. Mentality, desire, heart, attitude, managing....all things the Sox do not have right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 10:41 PM) Never said it wasn't an important stat. Stat's are overrated in baseball and I have said this many times and I hate to sound like Hawk but it's about what he does for the team that doesnt get recorded as a stat. And since the first half, he hasn't done jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirScott Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 11:37 PM) You don't think OPS is an important stat? not as much for Pods, his OPS is considered terrible, but add the SBs to it and it'd be respectable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 04:41 AM) Groin injuries are nagging as all hell and for someone who runs that's about as bad of an injury as you can get. Go back about two months ago, and you'll see this same exact statement from me. I was saying that anyone expecting him to come back and jump start this offense again was setting themselves up for disappointment. Nothing's worse than a groin injury for a porn star or a base runner. I just always had some doubt about whether or not the injury was serious enough for him to go on the DL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 02:41 PM) Never said it wasn't an important stat. Stat's are overrated in baseball and I have said this many times and I hate to sound like Hawk but it's about what he does for the team that doesnt get recorded as a stat. What does Pods do that's awfully special then if it doesn't show up on the stats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 04:42 AM) Scott Podsednik OBP in 2005 - .353 Willie Harris OBP in 2004 - .343 Pods lack of power, BA/RISP, OPS in a corner position, where power is VITAL, doesn't make up for his stolen base ability. Don't forget just awful defense. He's as lazy as Carlos Lee was in the outfield. As someone mentioned the other day, he never charges the ball in an effort to throw the runner out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 10:42 PM) Mentality, desire, heart, attitude, managing....all things the Sox do not have right now. And talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 12:42 AM) Scott Podsednik OBP in 2005 - .353 Willie Harris OBP in 2004 - .343 Pods lack of power, BA/RISP, OPS in a corner position, where power is VITAL, doesn't make up for his stolen base ability. That makes no sence. Playing a position in the field has NOTHING to do with how they bat. Scott Podsednik LF and Jeff Kent 2B. Compare the 2. Juan Pierre CF and Andruw Jones CF. Compare the 2. Or Jason Kendall C and Adrian Beltre 3B. Compare the 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 10:42 PM) where power is VITAL Why is that again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 04:43 AM) What does Pods do that's awfully special then if it doesn't show up on the stats? Since all the girls love to see his face, he decides to just strike out looking a ton so the bat doesn't get in the way of the view that they get at the game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 QUOTE(AirScott @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 02:43 PM) not as much for Pods, his OPS is considered terrible, but add the SBs to it and it'd be respectable. It makes the difference though for a comparison between say Carl Crawford and Scott Podsednik. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 10:43 PM) What does Pods do that's awfully special then if it doesn't show up on the stats? Ask Iguchi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 12:43 AM) What does Pods do that's awfully special then if it doesn't show up on the stats? Please, we werw ALL was talkign about how great a job Pods does at taking pitches and disrupting pitchers on the basepaths and how he effects the pitches Gooch gets and how tought he was vs leftys.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 02:44 PM) That makes no sence. Playing a position in the field has NOTHING to do with how they bat. Scott Podsednik LF and Jeff Kent 2B. Compare the 2. Juan Pierre CF and Andruw Jones CF. Compare the 2. Or Jason Kendall C and Adrian Beltre 3B. Compare the 2. Did I say if Pods played 2B then he'd hit for 50HR then? Can you answer my original question as well, about the other corner OF's in the league that have hit for 0 HR and have an OPS higher than .705? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 04:46 AM) Please, we werw ALL was talkign about how great a job Pods does at taking pitches and disrupting pitchers on the basepaths and how he effects the pitches Gooch gets and how tought he was vs leftys.... It's a 162 game season. What the hell happened to him then? I'm not talking about just on the bases. He never works the pitcher anymore at the plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 12:45 AM) It makes the difference though for a comparison between say Carl Crawford and Scott Podsednik. Carl Crawford is an athletic freak. He is about as swole as a body-builder yet as fast as a cheetah. Bad comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 02:47 PM) Carl Crawford is an athletic freak. He is about as swole as a body-builder yet as fast as a cheetah. Bad comparison. They're both leadoff hitters in an OF position. What is a good comparison for Pods then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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