White Sox Josh Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Here is why: If they win tommorow the worst they can do is 96-66. The best Cleveland can do after Tonight's game is 96-66. The division would than go to the Sox because they won the season series and the Wild Card will go to the Indians assuming Cleveland is in position to win it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 09:12 PM) Here is why: If they win tommorow the worst they can do is 96-66. The best Cleveland can do after Tonight's game is 96-66. The division would than go to the Sox because they won the season series and the Wild Card will go to the Indians assuming Cleveland is in position to win it. Or it will go to a tiebreak that will be played in Cleveland... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 I dont know the tiebreaker rules and such, but isnt there a head to head to settle it? Or is that only for the WC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 09:12 PM) Here is why: If they win tommorow the worst they can do is 96-66. The best Cleveland can do after Tonight's game is 96-66. The division would than go to the Sox because they won the season series and the Wild Card will go to the Indians assuming Cleveland is in position to win it. MLB determines playoff sites through a series of coin flips. They must have been flipping an Indian-head nickel, because Jacobs Field would host any playoff game involving the Tribe. If the AL Central race ends in a tie, the Indians would host the White Sox. The same would go for a Wild Card tie between the Indians and either the Yankees or the Oakland A's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted September 29, 2005 Author Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(Felix @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 09:14 PM) I dont know the tiebreaker rules and such, but isnt there a head to head to settle it? Or is that only for the WC? im assuming that because Boston and New York play head-to-head the last 3 and are both flawed teams Cleveland will win the wild card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLAK Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 09:12 PM) Here is why: If they win tommorow the worst they can do is 96-66. The best Cleveland can do after Tonight's game is 96-66. The division would than go to the Sox because they won the season series and the Wild Card will go to the Indians assuming Cleveland is in position to win it. You're thinking football, pal. There are no tie breakers in baseball. If they finish with the same record they play off, 1 game. There is a coin flip for home field, and Sox already lost it, so it would be in the Jake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted September 29, 2005 Author Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 09:14 PM)but if the indians have the WC lead than they would win the wild card because the Sox have won the division series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 08:14 PM) If both the Sox and the Indians are tied at the end of the season, and they both have a better record than the loser of the AL East, then they will go to head to head to determine who gets the WC and who wins the division. I don't believe they play a playin game if both of the teams are scheduled to be in the postseason anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted September 29, 2005 Author Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(TLAK @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 09:15 PM) You're thinking football, pal. There are no tie breakers in baseball. If they finish with the same record they play off, 1 game. There is a coin flip for home field, and Sox already lost it, so it would be in the Jake. nope it happened in 01 with Houston and St. Louis. St.Louis won the Central because of their head-to-head advantage and Houston won the WC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 09:16 PM) but if the indians have the WC lead than they would win the wild card because the Sox have won the division series. er.. the indians and sox would be tied for the WC, and a playoff game would be played to decide who gets the division title and who gets the wild card (might be wrong) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowandrules83 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 A sox win tomorrow would clinch at least a wild card, right? it would also reduce the magic number in the division to 1, guaranteeing at least a tie. so if cleveland did manage to tie the sox, since the sox already had a good enough record to clinch a spot the indians would, therefore, clinch them a spot as well. since they would both already be in, the sox would be division champs due to winning the season series Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan79 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 The only way they clinch the division outright tommorow is the Indians lose and The Sox win they can clinch a tie tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 08:17 PM) nope it happened in 01 with Houston and St. Louis. St.Louis won the Central because of their head-to-head advantage and Houston won the WC. Then why are they saying the Sox magic number is 2? If your scenerio is correct it would be 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted September 29, 2005 Author Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(Felix @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 09:17 PM) er.. the indians and sox would be tied for the WC, and a playoff game would be played to decide who gets the division title and who gets the wild card (might be wrong) i think you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 08:12 PM) Here is why: If they win tommorow the worst they can do is 96-66. The best Cleveland can do after Tonight's game is 96-66. The division would than go to the Sox because they won the season series and the Wild Card will go to the Indians assuming Cleveland is in position to win it. I thought you were right at first about the tie and us winning the div. because we won the season series but they changed the rules so it probably doesn't matter anymore, 1 game playoff for div. and wc. I hope it doesn't end up a tie because that would probably have us playing how many games in a row into the playoffs?? Not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 08:18 PM) Then why are they saying the Sox magic number is 2? If your scenerio is correct it would be 1. Because for them to be outright champions it is two. If we win tomorrow we can do no worse than a tie. If it comes down to CLE and us for the WC and Division, then they would go head to head. They don't have a play in game to differntiate the difference between a wc and a division if they are both going to make it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowandrules83 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(chisoxfan79 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 08:17 PM) The only way they clinch the division outright tommorow is the Indians lose and The Sox win they can clinch a tie tomorrow. true, to clinch the division outright the sox would need both a win and a tribe loss. but even if that doesn't happen and only the sox win, they would still be division champs, cleveland the wild card, even if they had the same record. its not like in the big ten or something where they can have 4 co-champs. only one team will be named champ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 (edited) Ok, here we go. If we win and the Indians or Red Sox lose then we clinch the division. Edited September 29, 2005 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLAK Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Josh is right about 2001. The Cardinals finished 93-69 and co-owners of the first shared championship in major-league history, although having lost the season series to the Astros, the Cardinals assumed the position of wild-card qualifier to the National League postseason field. But this year there would be a playoff. AL TIE-BREAKER SITES AL EAST: BOS @ NYY. AL CENTRAL: CWS @ CLE. AL WILD CARD: NYY @ CLE; CLE @ BOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(TLAK @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 09:28 PM) Josh is right about 2001. But this year there would be a playoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowandrules83 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(TLAK @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 08:28 PM) Josh is right about 2001. But this year there would be a playoff. no, there wouldn't be a playoff, i don't think. the tiebreaker sites were determined for the situation where it was two teams playing for one spot. the central coin-flip was only in the scenario where the sox and tribe tied, and only the central crown was at stake and the loser didnt have the wild card to fall back on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Anyone see the end of the Red Sox/Toronto game? God, could Berman and Brantley cry about how good Boston was and praise everything about them anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 08:26 PM) Ok, here we go. If we win and the Indians or Red Sox lose then we clinch the division. The Red Sox have nothing to do with our division. Here it is: The Magic Number is 2 If the Sox win tomorrow, but Cleveland wins: The Sox clinch at least a tie for the Division. With the magic number at 1 If the Season ends in identical records, the Sox will play Cleveland in a one-game playoff in Cleveland. The winner wins the division. If the Sox win and Cleveland loses: The White Sox are central division champs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowandrules83 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 08:32 PM) The Red Sox have nothing to do with our division. Here it is: The Magic Number is 2 If the Sox win tomorrow, but Cleveland wins: The Sox clinch at least a tie for the Division. With the magic number at 1 If the Season ends in identical records, the Sox will play Cleveland in a one-game playoff in Cleveland. The winner wins the division. If the Sox win and Cleveland loses: The White Sox are central division champs! sorry, but i have to disagree. unless they changed the rules, they don't play a one-game playoff to determine the difference between the wc and div. champ. they just go by the head-to-head record. wouldn't it be pointless to send out contreras to try and win a one-game playoff when a playoff spot was already wrapped up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 08:32 PM) The Red Sox have nothing to do with our division. Here it is: The Magic Number is 2 If the Sox win tomorrow, but Cleveland wins: The Sox clinch at least a tie for the Division. With the magic number at 1 If the Season ends in identical records, the Sox will play Cleveland in a one-game playoff in Cleveland. The winner wins the division. If the Sox win and Cleveland loses: The White Sox are central division champs! Ribbie the red sox do matter: Here's why, the redsox losing and us winning gives us the division, that would put us 4 up on them, meaning we cant have a worse record for them, meaning if they win out and we lose out, us and cleveland tie but since both teams of us are in the playoffs we win the division, due to us beating them head to head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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