fathom Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(rowandrules83 @ Sep 29, 2005 -> 02:54 AM) it doesnt matter if the red sox win or not. its simple logic. if the sox win tomorrow they clinch not only a playoff berth but a tie for the division, correct? since the best cleveland could do then is tie us, and since in this hypothetical situation the tribe has tied us and the sox have clinched a berth, that means the indians clinch a berth too. and because both teams would already be in, the sox would be awarded the division with a win tomorrow, no matter what happens the rest of the year with boston and cleveland THIS IS THE ACCURATE SCENARIO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(rowandrules83 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 08:54 PM) it doesnt matter if the red sox win or not. its simple logic. if the sox win tomorrow they clinch not only a playoff berth but a tie for the division, correct? since the best cleveland could do then is tie us, and since in this hypothetical situation the tribe has tied us and the sox have clinched a berth, that means the indians clinch a berth too. and because both teams would already be in, the sox would be awarded the division with a win tomorrow, no matter what happens the rest of the year with boston and cleveland And you're right, good f***in call, you're smart, I am not. EDIT: All these tie breaker scenarios have made me do all sorts of math and because of this I have lost all common sense. Kudos man. Edited September 29, 2005 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesoxfan56 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 it doesnt matter if the red sox win or not. its simple logic. if the sox win tomorrow they clinch not only a playoff berth but a tie for the division, correct? since the best cleveland could do then is tie us, and since in this hypothetical situation the tribe has tied us and the sox have clinched a berth, that means the indians clinch a berth too. and because both teams would already be in, the sox would be awarded the division with a win tomorrow, no matter what happens the rest of the year with boston and cleveland <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Finally someone else knows whats going on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S720 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(Texsox @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 09:53 PM) And they win the tie breaker with the better head to head. So a tie = win Well, according to Channel 32 Fox Sport, by the virtue of a tie-breaker, the Sox will clinch their division IF they WIN tomorrow game. Woo Hoo... Win tomorrow and pop out the champagne!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan79 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Let's say the Sox win, Indians win, Yankees win and Red Sox lose tomorrow but the Red Sox sweep the Yankees and the Indians sweep the White Sox over the weekend then what happens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 my head hurts so much guys, the logic is this: If the red sox lose tomorrow, the best they could finish is 95-67, but that would mean that the yanks would at best finish 94-68 (assuming the red sox somehow sweep the yankees). If the white sox win tomorrow they will have 96-66 at worst. Assuming the tribe sweeps the white sox they will be tied, with the best record in the AL at 96-66. Under MLB's rules, since the division winner and wild card winner have the best records in the league, no tiebreaker game is played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowandrules83 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(Whitesoxfan56 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 08:56 PM) Finally someone else knows whats going on thank you. to be fair, i have a lot of free time on my hands to figure out thses scenarios. remember russell crow in beautiful mind with all the newspapers in the garage? well, i don;t have a garage, but its the same basic premise. now let's finish this thing tomorrow!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Ok so its all clear now. Win tommorow and we are going to the playoffs no matter what. The Tribe if sweep us would be a tie assuming we both win tommorow. That would put us both at 96 wins. One team in the East will only be able to get a max of 95 wins so win tommorow and the "choke" is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S720 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 09:59 PM) Ok so its all clear now. Win tommorow and we are going to the playoffs no matter what. The Tribe if sweep us would be a tie assuming we both win tommorow. That would put us both at 96 wins. One team in the East will only be able to get a max of 95 wins so win tommorow and the "choke" is over. YES!!! Just win tomorrow and we are IN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesoxfan56 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 thank you. to be fair, i have a lot of free time on my hands to figure out thses scenarios. remember russell crow in beautiful mind with all the newspapers in the garage? well, i don;t have a garage, but its the same basic premise. now let's finish this thing tomorrow!!!!!!!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hell yea, I knew what was going on the hole time as well. One more win and we are the 2005 american league central division champion chicago white sox...wow that has a nice ring to it....FINALLY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan79 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 You know what tomorrow the Sox should be in Cleveland by 7:00 Cleveland time, if they win in Detriot the team should by D-ray hats and tickets to the Cleveland game and if the Indians lose they should celebrate the outright division title right there in the stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowandrules83 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(chisoxfan79 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 09:08 PM) You know what tomorrow the Sox should be in Cleveland by 7:00 Cleveland time, if they win in Detriot the team should by D-ray hats and tickets to the Cleveland game and if the Indians lose they should celebrate the outright division title right there in the stadium. that's the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard. i can't think of one legitimate sporting goods shop that would ever carry 30 d-rays hats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt2719 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(rowandrules83 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 10:47 PM) that's the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard. i can't think of one legitimate sporting goods shop that would ever carry 30 d-rays hats you make a very good point. jaqui. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan79 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(rowandrules83 @ Sep 29, 2005 -> 03:47 AM) that's the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard. i can't think of one legitimate sporting goods shop that would ever carry 30 d-rays hats Sorry I wasn't thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxpranos Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 08:17 PM) nope it happened in 01 with Houston and St. Louis. St.Louis won the Central because of their head-to-head advantage and Houston won the WC. Josh is right Sox win tomorrow they ate Central champs..... Go Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(rowandrules83 @ Sep 29, 2005 -> 03:47 AM) that's the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard. i can't think of one legitimate sporting goods shop that would ever carry 30 d-rays hats That might have been the perfect answer to that question. Bravo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 This is basically it. Magic = 1. You win, you clinch the division since we automatically own the tiebreaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan79 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(Soxpranos @ Sep 29, 2005 -> 03:55 AM) Josh is right Sox win tomorrow they ate Central champs..... Go Sox Yes the Sox clinch tommorow if they win because if Cleveland wins out they get the wildcard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSOX45 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Aren't we in right now considering the Yankees and Red Sox play three more times? Let's say Cleveland does win out and we lose the rest of our games. They win the division, we are 95-67. Let's say New York and Boston go 2-2 New York:95-67 Boston:94-68 We're still in! I've tried every scenario possible, I'm pretty sure we have clinched a playoff spot due to the three games remaining between the Yankees and Red Sox. Can anyone verify this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 most news channels and radio in Chicago are reporting that if the Sox win tomorrow they win the division... the math is way too hard for me, so I am going to believe the media (not the best decision always, but it makes me happy for now) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(rowandrules83 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 08:47 PM) that's the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard. i can't think of one legitimate sporting goods shop that would ever carry 30 d-rays hats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan562004 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 10:08 PM) most news channels and radio in Chicago are reporting that if the Sox win tomorrow they win the division... the math is way too hard for me, so I am going to believe the media (not the best decision always, but it makes me happy for now) It's true, you can believe them for once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 The way this maddening stretch run has been going (not taking any easy route) we will lose tomorrow and have to consider all the possibilities again JUST WIN SOX! WRAP UP THIS DIVISION AGAINST THE HORSEs*** TIGERS! PAULIE, CARL, JERMAINE ... do the job veterans do. Just win the game. And good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Posted this in the game log for tomorrow as well, but as of 11:20 the Sox win is ESPN.com's main story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 QUOTE(CWSOX45 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 08:58 PM) Aren't we in right now considering the Yankees and Red Sox play three more times? Let's say Cleveland does win out and we lose the rest of our games. They win the division, we are 95-67. Let's say New York and Boston go 2-2 New York:95-67 Boston:94-68 We're still in! I've tried every scenario possible, I'm pretty sure we have clinched a playoff spot due to the three games remaining between the Yankees and Red Sox. Can anyone verify this? New York goes 2-2 (win 1 from the Red Sox), Boston Goes 3-1 (win 2 from the Yankees), the Sox lose out...all 3 of the teams wind up tied, and we go to the 2 level play in I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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