Jim Fainter Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Great column in Tuesday's Sun-Times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 they don't sell the Sun Times in western michigan and I suppose I could look it up but would you have a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Jay you are wonderful, thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 you are wonderful, thank you! I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winning Ugly Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Was a surprisingly good article from Kotex-Boy, but unfortunately it won't change a damn thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeportHeather Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Mariotti's written some good articles this year...I hope JR is reading the papers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Mariotti's written some good articles this year...I hope JR is reading the papers! The only thing I disagree with is Moronotti's take on MB's contract offer being "fair." :fyou Moronotti! He's still an ass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox1422 Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Mariotti's written some good articles this year...I hope JR is reading the papers! I hate to say it Heather, but I agree. Jay has had a couple of dandy's lately. This one and the last one about getting rid of JM were really good. Overall I can't stand the guy! :finger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfaninbeverly Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 I have to agree w/ya Heather Lee. As much as I think Mariotti is a blowhard, he has written some pretty good pieces about the Sox so far this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 F Kotex Boy :fyou All he writes is negative BS. Or better put a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then. All he is doing is kicking this Sox while they are down, what is so impressive about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 The only thing I disagree with is Moronotti's take on MB's contract offer being "fair." :fyou Moronotti! He's still an ass 2-6... Perhaps it was "fair". One thing I've learned over the years with pitchers.. you don't bite the hand that feeds you. Your next toss could be your last. I'm not saying anything negative, per se... but for Mark's sake I sure hope the decision not to sign doesn't come back to haunt him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winning Ugly Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 F Kotex Boy :fyou All he writes is negative BS. Or better put a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then. All he is doing is kicking this Sox while they are down, what is so impressive about that? True. He did the same thing with the Bulls in all 6 championship seasons, then he turned around and never said he was wrong, but praised the Bulls AFTER they wrapped up each championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox1422 Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 F Kotex Boy :fyou All he writes is negative BS. Or better put a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then. All he is doing is kicking this Sox while they are down, what is so impressive about that? The way that I see it SS is that the guy is a prick. Remember that article "Sox vs Cubs, No Contest"? You know the one he wrote about the Yankees? That was horrible and when i emailed him on it he sent me back a b**** ass response. The thing I liked about the last 2 Sox related columns was that he said some things that I was thinking. Like dumping Manuel and JR getting more involved with the current situation. Either way, you are right :fyou Kotex Boy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeportHeather Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Perhaps Mariotti's recent hot streak, plus last week's violent storms are signs that the apocalypse is upon us!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Perhaps Mariotti's recent hot streak, plus last week's violent storms are signs that the apocalypse is upon us!!! and the Cubs are in first place... Oh wait it is only May, nevermind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeportHeather Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 and the Cubs are in first place... Oh wait it is only May, nevermind. Perhaps we should inform them that June has NOT even begun yet!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 I don't know how much I agree with this article...i basically get the sense he wants Manuel gone, that's pretty obvious. But he fails to address how much KW is meddling with this damn team and affecting the way Manuel manages. That's a huge issue he didn't talk about. Another thing that struck me was when he talked about Ward and Manuel said "The players at some point have to take on responsibility. They can't keep looking for a [new] coach here, a [new] manager there. They have to own up to their careers and what they're about. It's that simple.'' In other words, "own up to their careers and what they are about" should equal "don't listen to what Ward says because he has a wrong approach so go out and hit for yourself without any coaching, or rather, BAD coaching." That doesn't make any sense to me. Coaching is a HUGE part in sports...why in the hell would you have a damn hitting coach if you didn't think his job was to help the team? I would put a ton of the blame on this team on Ward and Mariotti puts none on Ward and all on Manuel. I don't think that's the fair way to spread the blame at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyKongerko Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 No one has a more realistic grasp of how depressing The Cell can be--and how one-sided the Chicago baseball pendulum tips--when the Sox underachieve and the Cubs overachieve. I couldn't have said it better myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 He said nothing that was not true :fyou KW, JM, GW, JG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grebeck Fan Club Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 What part of Buerhle's contract wasn't fair? Wasn't it $25 million for five years? That has to be close to the top salary for a third-year player. Anyone who turns down a huge contract should look at Kenny Rogers (offered a two-year, 10 mil deal with Texas, turned it down and got $2 mil for one year in Minnesota). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Also looking at how many Sox starters have the same success after leaving the Sox, I would be afraid to turn down that kind of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 What part of Buerhle's contract wasn't fair? Wasn't it $25 million for five years? That has to be close to the top salary for a third-year player. Anyone who turns down a huge contract should look at Kenny Rogers (offered a two-year, 10 mil deal with Texas, turned it down and got $2 mil for one year in Minnesota). Only about 9-12 million was guaranteed. More than half of the money was tied to performance and incentives. Real fair contract to a guy who won 34 games for your Organization in one and one-half seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Mariotti is a f***tard. Any one of us on this board could have ( and some HAVE ) written that same exact column, only without the inane blabber and stupid nicknames. Mariotti is a simpleton who writes the easiest thing to say about any situation, and rarely offers up a working solution. He's all stupid nicknames and comparing irrelevant situations - in my mind, what the Cubs are or aren't doing holds no bearing in what Reinsdorf should do to salvage a sinking season. On those RARE occasions when Mariotti does say "this or that should be done", he will ONLY refer back to his past suggestions when they work here or somewhere else. That's what Hysteriotti does - he ignores his own stupid comments and hangs on like a pitbull on the isolated occasions when his babbling accidentally makes sense. He's got 20/20 hindsight and zero insight. Once again, in closing, Jay Mariotti is a f***TARD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 What part of Buerhle's contract wasn't fair? Wasn't it $25 million for five years? That has to be close to the top salary for a third-year player. Anyone who turns down a huge contract should look at Kenny Rogers (offered a two-year, 10 mil deal with Texas, turned it down and got $2 mil for one year in Minnesota). Only about 9-12 million was guaranteed. More than half of the money was tied to performance and incentives. Real fair contract to a guy who won 34 games for your Organization in one and one-half seasons. Thanks CK - some people forget that KW, MB, and Hahn had all agreed on a deal and then JR re-did it on his own at the last second and MB was justified in turning not something that was not what he had agreed to with the GM and ass't GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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