Foulke

[Chisoxfn]

Heard on sports talk today out in California a partial interview talking about the White Sox and they mentioned that Foulke will most likely be moved back in as closer next season, unless the White Sox get a great offer for him.

 

They said they won't announce the move until spring training or later in case he's moved.

[Mr. Showtime]

He'll be moved at some point just not sure when.

[Chisoxfn]

I differ with ya, but thats just cause I don't doubt the fact that we are willing to pay him as long as we are winning and playing good.

[Mr. Showtime]

Originally posted by Chisoxfn

I differ with ya, but thats just cause I don't doubt the fact that we are willing to pay him as long as we are winning and playing good.

 

This is why I can't win with you.

[Chisoxfn]

I'm too stubborn to admit that JR is a total prick and cheap owner. I think its because I'm an optimist and hate to go into something already thinking we are going to lose or suck, it just don't make it fun then.

[Mr. Showtime]

Originally posted by Chisoxfn

I'm too stubborn to admit that JR is a total prick and cheap owner.  I think its because I'm an optimist and hate to go into something already thinking we are going to lose or suck, it just don't make it fun then.

 

It's more fun when the team is bad. Fun bad.

[Mike South24]

Originally posted by Chisoxfn

I'm too stubborn to admit that JR is a total prick and cheap owner.  I think its because I'm an optimist and hate to go into something already thinking we are going to lose or suck, it just don't make it fun then.

 

Because you're not old enough. lol

 

I've lived through JR's ownership since he bought the team and yes, he IS a cheap prick.

[Molto]

not to get on your or anything mike, but I just dont get why so many people think that way yet still support the team.

 

I mean if you think the owner is a cheap and he never wants to win a title, and coincidentaly never will (which MANY sox fans truly believe, why support them?

 

I don't mean not like the Sox, but boycot them till he sells the team.

 

I know if I hate JR with a passion and feel this team is hopeless, I would probably just dump the site and not pay much attention to the team at all. I watch the sox more or less for the thrill of watching baseball.

 

that is just my opinion, why support a team you feel can never win?

 

once again, not about being a fan, because when fans support a team, it doesn't give the owners much reason to change.

 

I know I'm gonna get jumped on for this comment.

[BridgeportHeather]

Originally posted by Molto

once again, not about being a fan, because when fans support a team, it doesn't give the owners much reason to change.

 

I know I'm gonna get jumped on for this comment.

I'm not gonna jump you for that comment...I'm in full agreement. Look at Wrigley Field. Tourists give Cub management a misconception that a lot of people actually care for the team. Consequentially, they won't do s*** to help build a winner.

 

Wrigley Field + Being a tourist attraction (full stands) = No change by Tribune Corporation

[Mike South24]

I've tried many times to turn my back on the team because of JR. I just cant be a big fan of any other team. I like the Cardinals a lot, but nothing like the Sox. It's all about being a loyal fan. I have boycotted Comiskey a few years and I didnt go to as many games this year because i was pissed off, but i could never turn on the team. I'll be happy once JR sells. If we have a worse owner then JR next, i might not be able to follow this team.

[soxfan420]

i watch the sox because i love the sox i can hate the owner and i can say i have not bought any sox products since 94 no hats, jerseys, penates, shirts, or gone to a game. i will not give any money to JR has long has he is the owner.

 

Unless he changes his ways. Then i would love to spend money on the sox. i really could use a new hat

[BridgeportHeather]

Originally posted by Mike South24

I've lived through JR's ownership since he bought the team  and yes, he IS a cheap prick. 

Somehow I think that JR used all the money he made on the Sox to pay for the 6 lovely championships for the west side basketball club. Now, notice how those Bulls are somewhat rebounding once again (looking like the late mid-80s). He isn't truly dedicated to the Sox. How about SNR taking over the Sox!

[Guest hotsoxchick1]

Originally posted by Molto

not to get on your or anything mike, but I just dont get why so many people think that way yet still support the team. 

 

I mean if you think the owner is a cheap and he never wants to win a title, and coincidentaly never will (which MANY sox fans truly believe, why support them?

 

I don't mean not like the Sox, but boycot them till he sells the team.

 

I know if I hate JR with a passion and feel this team is hopeless, I would probably just dump the site and not pay much attention to the team at all.  I watch the sox more or less for the thrill of watching baseball. 

 

that is just my opinion, why support a team you feel can never win?

 

once again, not about being a fan, because when fans support a team, it doesn't give the owners much reason to change.

 

I know I'm gonna get jumped on for this comment.

 

not jumping you here ok.... but why do you think we lost so many of the regular fan base in the 94 flag deals??? because they boycotted jr and his decisions... and not many of those have ever returned back to the park.... if you go over the attendance from the last 10 years you will see a dramatic decrease from 94 on.....and then it gets spotty there after.....i will be willing to bet that there is alot more who drop from the regular fan base this season upcoming.....there are alot of unhappy fans who feel that things are being run into the ground......and then there are the rest of us who are gluton for punishment.........lol

[CubKilla]

Originally posted by hotsoxchick1

Originally posted by Molto

not to get on your or anything mike, but I just dont get why so many people think that way yet still support the team. 

 

I mean if you think the owner is a cheap and he never wants to win a title, and coincidentaly never will (which MANY sox fans truly believe, why support them?

 

I don't mean not like the Sox, but boycot them till he sells the team.

 

I know if I hate JR with a passion and feel this team is hopeless, I would probably just dump the site and not pay much attention to the team at all.  I watch the sox more or less for the thrill of watching baseball. 

 

that is just my opinion, why support a team you feel can never win?

 

once again, not about being a fan, because when fans support a team, it doesn't give the owners much reason to change.

 

I know I'm gonna get jumped on for this comment.

 

not jumping you here ok.... but why do you think we lost so many of the regular fan base in the 94 flag deals??? because they boycotted jr and his decisions... and not many of those have ever returned back to the park.... if you go over the attendance from the last 10 years you will see a dramatic decrease from 94 on.....and then it gets spotty there after.....i will be willing to bet that there is alot more who drop from the regular fan base this season upcoming.....there are alot of unhappy fans who feel that things are being run into the ground......and then there are the rest of us who are gluton for punishment.........lol

 

My dad raised me a Sox fan and hasn't been back to Comiskey since the White Flag Trade. What was the percentage drop off when you take 94 and combine it with 97? And both years, in one way or another, had to do with JR being a CHEAP PRICK! And for the person who wondered why I still cheer for the Sox even though I wouldn't piss on JR if he was on fire? It has to do with loyalty to a team. It has nothing to do with their CHEAP PRICK OWNER.

[Guest hotsoxchick1]

heres the attendance numbers since 90... look at the drop off point in 93 to 94.....i imagine it will drop a bit further this season ... we will probably be around the 1.3 mil mark..... maybe........

 

 

 

2001 AL Cent 83-79 3 Comiskey Park II 1,766,172 21,805 12th out of 14

 

2000 AL Cent 95-67 DIV,1 Comiskey Park II 1,947,799 24,047 9th out of 14

 

1999 AL Cent 75-86 2 Comiskey Park II 1,338,851 16,529 13th out of 14

 

1998 AL Cent 80-82 2 Comiskey Park II 1,391,146 17,175 12th out of 14

 

1997 AL Cent 80-81 2 Comiskey Park II 1,864,782 23,022 8th out of 14

 

1996 AL Cent 85-77 2 Comiskey Park II 1,676,403 20,696 9th out of 14

 

1995 AL Cent 68-76 3 Comiskey Park II 1,609,773 22,358 9th out of 14

 

1994 AL Cent 67-46 DIV,1 Comiskey Park II 1,697,398 32,026 5th out of 14

 

1993 AL West 94-68 DIV,1 Comiskey Park II 2,581,091 31,865 3rd out of 14

 

1992 AL West 86-76 3 Comiskey Park II 2,681,156 32,697 3rd out of 14

 

1991 AL West 87-75 2 Comiskey Park II 2,934,154 36,224 2nd out of 14

 

1990 AL West 94-68 2 Comiskey Park 2,002,357 25,029 8th out of 14

[SI1020]

Rooting for the Sox is an experience hard to describe. I mean look at the history of the team. It takes really loyal, knowledgeable folk to stay in it for the long run. Quitting the Sox is like quitting your religion. OK, if you're not religious it's like quitting your family or something else important. Besides that, if you live in Chicago or you grew up there like I did, who the hell wants to root for that other team? JR is an SOB, arrogant and vindictive. Chicago has had several owners in several sports like him. The Sox just have to find a way to win in spite of him and the great KW. I'm a Sox fan, but right now I'm hanging on the edge of a cliff with this team.

[doubleM23]

Originally posted by hotsoxchick1

heres the attendance numbers since 90... look at the drop off point in 93 to 94.....i imagine it will drop a bit further this season ... we will probably be around the 1.3 mil mark..... maybe........

 

 

 

2001 AL Cent 83-79 3 Comiskey Park II  1,766,172 21,805 12th out of 14

 

2000 AL Cent 95-67 DIV,1 Comiskey Park II  1,947,799 24,047 9th out of 14

 

1999 AL Cent 75-86 2 Comiskey Park II  1,338,851 16,529 13th out of 14

 

1998 AL Cent 80-82 2 Comiskey Park II  1,391,146 17,175 12th out of 14

 

1997 AL Cent 80-81 2 Comiskey Park II  1,864,782 23,022 8th out of 14 

 

1996 AL Cent 85-77 2 Comiskey Park II  1,676,403 20,696 9th out of 14 

 

1995 AL Cent 68-76 3 Comiskey Park II  1,609,773 22,358 9th out of 14 

 

1994 AL Cent 67-46 DIV,1 Comiskey Park II  1,697,398 32,026 5th out of 14 

 

1993 AL West 94-68 DIV,1 Comiskey Park II  2,581,091 31,865 3rd out of 14

 

1992 AL West 86-76 3 Comiskey Park II  2,681,156 32,697 3rd out of 14 

 

1991 AL West 87-75 2 Comiskey Park II  2,934,154 36,224 2nd out of 14

 

1990 AL West 94-68 2 Comiskey Park  2,002,357 25,029 8th out of 14 

 

   

 

1994 wasn't a full season, HSC. If the Sox had played out, they probably would have broken 2,000,000.

[Guest hotsoxchick1]

full seaosn or not i dont think it would have gone up too much more......people were tired of jerry and mlb and all the bulls***..... and as you can see alot of them have not come back since.......its a shame...........

[FUCKREINSDORF]

Originally posted by Mike South24

Originally posted by Chisoxfn

I'm too stubborn to admit that JR is a total prick and cheap owner.  I think its because I'm an optimist and hate to go into something already thinking we are going to lose or suck, it just don't make it fun then.

 

Because you're not old enough. lol

 

I've lived through JR's ownership since he bought the team and yes, he IS a cheap prick.

 

As a 40 year old fan,the realisation that my favorite baseball team,the White Sox,aren't going to a WS anytime in my lifetime makes me hate the motherf***ers known as Reinsdork and Lenny Billiams even more.This is not fun.This is not funny. :mad:

[CubKilla]

Originally posted by hotsoxchick1

heres the attendance numbers since 90... look at the drop off point in 93 to 94.....i imagine it will drop a bit further this season ... we will probably be around the 1.3 mil mark..... maybe........

 

 

 

2001 AL Cent 83-79 3 Comiskey Park II  1,766,172 21,805 12th out of 14

 

2000 AL Cent 95-67 DIV,1 Comiskey Park II  1,947,799 24,047 9th out of 14

 

1999 AL Cent 75-86 2 Comiskey Park II  1,338,851 16,529 13th out of 14

 

1998 AL Cent 80-82 2 Comiskey Park II  1,391,146 17,175 12th out of 14

 

1997 AL Cent 80-81 2 Comiskey Park II  1,864,782 23,022 8th out of 14 

 

1996 AL Cent 85-77 2 Comiskey Park II  1,676,403 20,696 9th out of 14 

 

1995 AL Cent 68-76 3 Comiskey Park II  1,609,773 22,358 9th out of 14 

 

1994 AL Cent 67-46 DIV,1 Comiskey Park II  1,697,398 32,026 5th out of 14 

 

1993 AL West 94-68 DIV,1 Comiskey Park II  2,581,091 31,865 3rd out of 14

 

1992 AL West 86-76 3 Comiskey Park II  2,681,156 32,697 3rd out of 14 

 

1991 AL West 87-75 2 Comiskey Park II  2,934,154 36,224 2nd out of 14

 

1990 AL West 94-68 2 Comiskey Park  2,002,357 25,029 8th out of 14 

 

   

 

So the Sox dropped four places after both 94 and 97. Even though 94 was strike shortened, they were only 2 spots lower than they were in 93..... the year they won the Division. Given that, in all probability, they would have hung on to win the Division in 94, the numbers would have probably been BETTER than 93 because 94 was the best shot the White Sox had at winning the WS in my lifetime. Thanks for proving me right HSC

[Chisoxfn]

Originally posted by Molto

not to get on your or anything mike, but I just dont get why so many people think that way yet still support the team. 

 

I mean if you think the owner is a cheap and he never wants to win a title, and coincidentaly never will (which MANY sox fans truly believe, why support them?

 

I don't mean not like the Sox, but boycot them till he sells the team.

 

I know if I hate JR with a passion and feel this team is hopeless, I would probably just dump the site and not pay much attention to the team at all.  I watch the sox more or less for the thrill of watching baseball. 

 

that is just my opinion, why support a team you feel can never win?

 

once again, not about being a fan, because when fans support a team, it doesn't give the owners much reason to change.

 

I know I'm gonna get jumped on for this comment.

 

All I want to know is how can you blame the guy? I wouldn't just spend more and more money only to lose it. You can't act like Tom Hicks and just poor money into ta club only to keep losing it.

[Chisoxfn]

Originally posted by CubKilla

Originally posted by hotsoxchick1

heres the attendance numbers since 90... look at the drop off point in 93 to 94.....i imagine it will drop a bit further this season ... we will probably be around the 1.3 mil mark..... maybe........

 

 

 

2001 AL Cent 83-79 3 Comiskey Park II  1,766,172 21,805 12th out of 14

 

2000 AL Cent 95-67 DIV,1 Comiskey Park II  1,947,799 24,047 9th out of 14

 

1999 AL Cent 75-86 2 Comiskey Park II  1,338,851 16,529 13th out of 14

 

1998 AL Cent 80-82 2 Comiskey Park II  1,391,146 17,175 12th out of 14

 

1997 AL Cent 80-81 2 Comiskey Park II  1,864,782 23,022 8th out of 14 

 

1996 AL Cent 85-77 2 Comiskey Park II  1,676,403 20,696 9th out of 14 

 

1995 AL Cent 68-76 3 Comiskey Park II  1,609,773 22,358 9th out of 14 

 

1994 AL Cent 67-46 DIV,1 Comiskey Park II  1,697,398 32,026 5th out of 14 

 

1993 AL West 94-68 DIV,1 Comiskey Park II  2,581,091 31,865 3rd out of 14

 

1992 AL West 86-76 3 Comiskey Park II  2,681,156 32,697 3rd out of 14 

 

1991 AL West 87-75 2 Comiskey Park II  2,934,154 36,224 2nd out of 14

 

1990 AL West 94-68 2 Comiskey Park  2,002,357 25,029 8th out of 14 

 

   

 

So the Sox dropped four places after both 94 and 97. Even though 94 was strike shortened, they were only 2 spots lower than they were in 93..... the year they won the Division. Given that, in all probability, they would have hung on to win the Division in 94, the numbers would have probably been BETTER than 93 because 94 was the best shot the White Sox had at winning the WS in my lifetime. Thanks for proving me right HSC

 

Consequently look at our record during those time periods of the 90's. We weren't winning divisions or the wild card with exception of 2000.

[Mr. Showtime]

Originally posted by Chisoxfn

Consequently look at our record during those time periods of the 90's.  We weren't winning divisions or the wild card with exception of 2000.

 

New park, winning team, no 94', not 97'.

 

I'm just going to stop there, I'm sure you'll have something weird to say back.

[Guest hotsoxchick1]

Originally posted by Chisoxfn

Originally posted by CubKilla

Originally posted by hotsoxchick1

heres the attendance numbers since 90... look at the drop off point in 93 to 94.....i imagine it will drop a bit further this season ... we will probably be around the 1.3 mil mark..... maybe........

 

 

 

2001 AL Cent 83-79 3 Comiskey Park II  1,766,172 21,805 12th out of 14

 

2000 AL Cent 95-67 DIV,1 Comiskey Park II  1,947,799 24,047 9th out of 14

 

1999 AL Cent 75-86 2 Comiskey Park II  1,338,851 16,529 13th out of 14

 

1998 AL Cent 80-82 2 Comiskey Park II  1,391,146 17,175 12th out of 14

 

1997 AL Cent 80-81 2 Comiskey Park II  1,864,782 23,022 8th out of 14 

 

1996 AL Cent 85-77 2 Comiskey Park II  1,676,403 20,696 9th out of 14 

 

1995 AL Cent 68-76 3 Comiskey Park II  1,609,773 22,358 9th out of 14 

 

1994 AL Cent 67-46 DIV,1 Comiskey Park II  1,697,398 32,026 5th out of 14 

 

1993 AL West 94-68 DIV,1 Comiskey Park II  2,581,091 31,865 3rd out of 14

 

1992 AL West 86-76 3 Comiskey Park II  2,681,156 32,697 3rd out of 14 

 

1991 AL West 87-75 2 Comiskey Park II  2,934,154 36,224 2nd out of 14

 

1990 AL West 94-68 2 Comiskey Park  2,002,357 25,029 8th out of 14 

 

   

 

So the Sox dropped four places after both 94 and 97. Even though 94 was strike shortened, they were only 2 spots lower than they were in 93..... the year they won the Division. Given that, in all probability, they would have hung on to win the Division in 94, the numbers would have probably been BETTER than 93 because 94 was the best shot the White Sox had at winning the WS in my lifetime. Thanks for proving me right HSC

 

Consequently look at our record during those time periods of the 90's. We weren't winning divisions or the wild card with exception of 2000.

correction with the exception of 93,94 and 2000.........we were winning divisions then.....

[SI1020]

For those of you who think some of us are wrong for not liking JR. He has a history dating back to before he owned the Sox. Take the time to look things up and then come to your own conclusions. Nobody wants him to spend money like a boob ( see Hicks in Texas). Just act like he really wants to win and don't patronize Sox fans. We're not Cubs fans and won't be so easily fooled by owners who want to play us like a violin.