chisox72 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Thats why he is an ump and not a PR guy, his public speaking is HORRIBLE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 We had an illegal slide that mirrored the Cabrera slide last night too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 QUOTE(chisox72 @ Oct 12, 2005 -> 10:36 PM) Thats why he is an ump and not a PR guy, his public speaking is HORRIBLE That and I think they know he messed up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted October 13, 2005 Author Share Posted October 13, 2005 Wow, Eddings had no clue what to say right there. And half of what he said is basically wrong. You don't rule strike with two different motions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 QUOTE(MurcieOne @ Oct 13, 2005 -> 03:31 AM) im still pretty sure that Paul didnt get ALLLLLL glove on that ball..... i think the call was right. Paul is a pussy, and his mistake cost his team..... give the AL's best record an extra out and see what happens. we win, they lose. Dont kid yourself it was clear as day he got his glove on all of the ball... He didnt give us an extra out the Umps horrible mistake did.. that being said as long as it goes in our favor Ill take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Oct 12, 2005 -> 09:38 PM) Wow, Eddings had no clue what to say right there. And half of what he said is basically wrong. You don't rule strike with two different motions. From what it sounds like is that the arm meant no contact and the call meant strike, and he does use that call all game so it's interesting. I still dont know if he caught it. Whoever that head ump guy dude is he seems to think that it hit the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 QUOTE(Texsox @ Oct 12, 2005 -> 10:35 PM) First Graffy, now Josh I love ex-Sox players. JR must have them still on the payroll. Haha, are there any ex-Sox in Houston? I know we have Eldred in StL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlackSox8 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 they all sounded shaky when they said the ball changed direction from looking at the reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 I know this is probably is a very amateurish question, but there's no way that the Angels protested this, is there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted October 13, 2005 Author Share Posted October 13, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Oct 12, 2005 -> 10:39 PM) From what it sounds like is that the arm meant no contact and the call meant strike, and he does use that call all game so it's interesting. I still dont know if he caught it. Whoever that head ump guy dude is he seems to think that it hit the ground. They should have never, EVER said they went to replay to try to justify their ruling, and talk about whether or not it hit the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Oct 12, 2005 -> 09:40 PM) I know this is probably is a very amateurish question, but there's no way that the Angels protested this, is there? It's not going to do anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Oct 13, 2005 -> 03:40 AM) I know this is probably is a very amateurish question, but there's no way that the Angels protested this, is there? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I believe they protested it immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 QUOTE(TheBlackSox8 @ Oct 12, 2005 -> 10:40 PM) they all sounded shaky when they said the ball changed direction from looking at the reply. Didn't sound all that shaky to me, but as someone posted, there is a reason why they are behind the plate and not a microphone lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlackSox8 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Oct 12, 2005 -> 10:40 PM) They should have never, EVER said they went to replay to try to justify their ruling, and talk about whether or not it hit the ground. yeah...that basically shows they were questioning it themselves....and at one point were unsure of themselves and the call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Oct 12, 2005 -> 10:40 PM) They should have never, EVER said they went to replay to try to justify their ruling, and talk about whether or not it hit the ground. I can't blame them for checking it out (especially if there was a protest) considering the first question asked is if they looked at the replay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 QUOTE(3E8 @ Oct 12, 2005 -> 07:17 PM) If you are correct, tune in to the Baseball Tonight crew. You will get a good laugh at how bad they're butchering this rule right now. I don't think its correct. But I could be wrong. I always thought you call the out and than from there on you make the 2nd call out. Who knows though. I still think it hit the dirt (well i'm fairly confident in that). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted October 13, 2005 Author Share Posted October 13, 2005 QUOTE(redandwhite @ Oct 12, 2005 -> 10:41 PM) I believe they protested it immediately. I'm not an expert on protests, but i'm pretty sure nothing can happen as far as an official protest goes. It's similar to a safe/out call, etc. They can't appeal whether the ball hit the ground, they could only appeal something based off Eddings mechanics behind the plate. And i don't even know if that is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 QUOTE(Balance @ Oct 12, 2005 -> 07:31 PM) While I agree with you 100%, that situation didn't result in a run for the Angels. That would weaken our "they got some breaks with calls, too" argument on that particular instance. Glad we won, just pointing that out. It was an inning ending double play and the game winning run scored on the play. Had that slide not been made, the inning would have been over and one less run would have scored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted October 13, 2005 Author Share Posted October 13, 2005 Something i just noticed - Pierzynski started running after the extended arm call meaning he swung through it. I think AJ thought that he wasn't going to rule him out, and started running. AJ never saw the fist call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 QUOTE(redandwhite @ Oct 13, 2005 -> 03:41 AM) I believe they protested it immediately. Is this something you heard? Only the Sox could have a situation where a playoff game is forced to resume due to a protest overturning a call. Of course, I know there's a .001 pct chance of the protest being successful. And yes, the only reason I could see them protesting is Eddings signaling that AJP was out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Oct 12, 2005 -> 07:39 PM) From what it sounds like is that the arm meant no contact and the call meant strike, and he does use that call all game so it's interesting. I still dont know if he caught it. Whoever that head ump guy dude is he seems to think that it hit the ground. I don't think there is any set out rule either because you can always change the ruling on a play. How is it any different than a guy being called out and than the umps discuss it and someone else has a better angle and says the ball was trapped. Different situation, yes, but I dont' think there is any set this is your out call. Afterall a lot of umps call different things different. I still say that hit the dirt so whether the ump motioned wrong or not, Paul should have made the tag (if its close you usually do so). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Oct 13, 2005 -> 03:45 AM) Is this something you heard? Only the Sox could have a situation where a playoff game is forced to resume due to a protest overturning a call. Of course, I know there's a .001 pct chance of the protest being successful. And yes, the only reason I could see them protesting is Eddings signaling that AJP was out. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The crew cheif mentioned that Sciosia protested it immediately during the press conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Oct 12, 2005 -> 07:40 PM) I know this is probably is a very amateurish question, but there's no way that the Angels protested this, is there? No. I'm 99% sure, but I think the only time you can protest a game is if you do it during the game. You can't do it after the fact, you have to make it known and the remainder of the game is played under protest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Oct 12, 2005 -> 10:45 PM) Something i just noticed - Pierzynski started running after the extended arm call meaning he swung through it. I think AJ thought that he wasn't going to rule him out, and started running. AJ never saw the fist call. Another thing is that Paul flipped the ball back to the mound before the fist call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balance Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Oct 12, 2005 -> 10:36 PM) Um...yes it did. I was thinking about a different play tonight. NM. My mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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