Texsox Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 One make up call? No make up call? Angels get the benefit the rest of the series? It seems many times that officials in all sports "even things out". I just hope this doesn't stick around for the rest of the series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 After that massive strike zone the home plate Ump gage Washburn that WAS the makeup call, even though it was the right one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controlled Chaos Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 I think the umps believe it was the right call. During their press conference last night, they were pretty adamant about that. This was not an umpiring mistake. It was a cathers mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 For all the talk about "BALLGATE", hehe, it doesn't matter a damn bit if Joe Crede makes an out, now does it? Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ Oct 13, 2005 -> 06:45 AM) I think the umps believe it was the right call. During their press conference last night, they were pretty adamant about that. This was not an umpiring mistake. It was a cathers mistake. Actually, I don't think they believe that...just from their press conference words, I think they're as confused as anyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Oct 13, 2005 -> 08:24 AM) For all the talk about "BALLGATE", hehe, it doesn't matter a damn bit if Joe Crede makes an out, now does it? Just a thought. I agree with this. Obviously, I'm not judging this play from an outside prospective, but it's difficult to place ALL the blame on the umpiring crew (which, apparently, nearly everyone outside Chicago believes). There was still a game left to be played after the call was ruled on the field. Make a good pitch to Crede and the inning is over. If the Angels are determined to win they will overcome this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Oct 13, 2005 -> 03:48 PM) I agree with this. Obviously, I'm not judging this play from an outside prospective, but it's difficult to place ALL the blame on the umpiring crew (which, apparently, nearly everyone outside Chicago believes). There was still a game left to be played after the call was ruled on the field. Make a good pitch to Crede and the inning is over. If the Angels are determined to win they will overcome this. Game three just became huge. This will light a flaming freakin' inferno under the Angels, IMO. We need to be good enough to withstand this. If we are, the AL pennant will fly in Chicago. We'll see soon enough, won't we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Oct 13, 2005 -> 11:18 AM) Game three just became huge. This will light a flaming freakin' inferno under the Angels, IMO. We need to be good enough to withstand this. If we are, the AL pennant will fly in Chicago. We'll see soon enough, won't we? I think it will be huge, but I consider what happened in game 2 to be a HUGE mometum swing in favor of the Sox. I think this is exactly what we needed to get going again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 13, 2005 Author Share Posted October 13, 2005 QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Oct 13, 2005 -> 11:41 AM) I think it will be huge, but I consider what happened in game 2 to be a HUGE mometum swing in favor of the Sox. I think this is exactly what we needed to get going again. This is my favorite momentum theory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Oct 13, 2005 -> 11:18 AM) Game three just became huge. This will light a flaming freakin' inferno under the Angels, IMO. We need to be good enough to withstand this. If we are, the AL pennant will fly in Chicago. We'll see soon enough, won't we? I hate to agree with this, but for the 1st time in 3 weeks, I'm nervous about the next Sox game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Oct 13, 2005 -> 10:18 AM) Game three just became huge. This will light a flaming freakin' inferno under the Angels, IMO. This is my fear as well. I hate sayin this...but I almost expect a blowout next game (using the pessimistic reverse psycology here). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec159row2 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 we haven't seen hunter wendelstod(sp?) yet....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 QUOTE(Wanne @ Oct 13, 2005 -> 12:13 PM) This is my fear as well. I hate sayin this...but I almost expect a blowout next game (using the pessimistic reverse psycology here). Yeah, but if Jon gets slapped around, put Duque in. He'll end that s*** in like .002 seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjm676 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 My thinking is Scioscia will be pissed off and the rest of the Angels will be looking at Garland like a Tee Ball stand. I pray that doesn't happen. That ump last night was so inconsistent with his strike zone, that it really didn't surprise me that the call happened. He didn't really seem to know what was going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 I haven't been around much the past day or so, but, has any argued Scioscia's long, belabored objection to the umpire crew may have hurt his ballclub. Escobar, or whoever that was, was rolling at that point. I'm not faulting his questioning the call...you have to do that...but, I think he would have been much better off clapping his hands, giving his pitcher a pat on the ass and troting back to the dugout. By staying out there and making a federal case of it, he almost set his Angels up for failure in that inning. Am I alone on this? I don't know. I don't get the opportunity to get much sports talk radio down here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Oct 13, 2005 -> 12:27 PM) I haven't been around much the past day or so, but, has any argued Scioscia's long, belabored objection to the umpire crew may have hurt his ballclub. Escobar, or whoever that was, was rolling at that point. I'm not faulting his questioning the call...you have to do that...but, I think he would have been much better off clapping his hands, giving his pitcher a pat on the ass and troting back to the dugout. By staying out there and making a federal case of it, he almost set his Angels up for failure in that inning. Am I alone on this? I don't know. I don't get the opportunity to get much sports talk radio down here. I hadn't looked at it that way. Interesting perspective Addy. I think the next four close calls will be going in their favor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 13, 2005 Author Share Posted October 13, 2005 QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Oct 13, 2005 -> 12:27 PM) I haven't been around much the past day or so, but, has any argued Scioscia's long, belabored objection to the umpire crew may have hurt his ballclub. Escobar, or whoever that was, was rolling at that point. I'm not faulting his questioning the call...you have to do that...but, I think he would have been much better off clapping his hands, giving his pitcher a pat on the ass and troting back to the dugout. By staying out there and making a federal case of it, he almost set his Angels up for failure in that inning. Am I alone on this? I don't know. I don't get the opportunity to get much sports talk radio down here. Good analysis. Someone else mentioned he should have called the infield together and calmed them down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLsouthsider Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ Oct 13, 2005 -> 09:45 AM) I think the umps believe it was the right call. During their press conference last night, they were pretty adamant about that. This was not an umpiring mistake. It was a cathers mistake. Yeah, but there's no way an ump on that crew second-guesses the home-plate ump. At least not five minutes after the game is over. The umps are going to stick together, right or wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Oct 13, 2005 -> 11:32 AM) I hadn't looked at it that way. Interesting perspective Addy. I think the next four close calls will be going in their favor. Not that that's any different from usual. Rowand at home and Crede getting doubled up were both definitely close enough to go either way. If the Rowand call goes our way, does that become the huge controversy of the game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 I've been looking all over this morning to see if some scribe has used the headline,"Angels Get Hosed". Somebody HAD to have used it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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