Gene Honda Civic Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 09:41 PM) Are you serious?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 09:43 PM) Not that it matters, but here is the top 100. Scout Top 100 Oh s*** my bad man. Ok Top 10 is it then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 09:41 PM) I see #2 http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&cfg=bb&c=4&yr=2007 The thing you're looking at is top by position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&c=4&cf...&pid=88&yr=2007 He's ranked as the top SG at scout. #10 prospect overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Try not turning the ball over boys it might help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Illinois looks like a steaming pile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 09:58 PM) Illinois looks like a steaming pile. Dee Brown is playing absolutely terrible right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS I WILL TAKE A W @ UNC ANYWAY I CAN GET IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 03:58 AM) Dee Brown is playing absolutely terrible right now. Good win for the Illini, but Dee's absolutely not a point guard. He can't create his own shot if his life depended on it, and he's not a good creator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Illini are playing like garbage, but finding ways to win. The development of the team will improve greatly when Brown is moved back to off guard where he belongs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 04:13 AM) Illini are playing like garbage, but finding ways to win. The development of the team will improve greatly when Brown is moved back to off guard where he belongs. He's not moving anywhere. They have no other point guard. Maybe I'm missing something, but Frazier looks awful when I've watched him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 04:15 AM) He's not moving anywhere. They have no other point guard. Maybe I'm missing something, but Frazier looks awful when I've watched him. I love Frazier's game. Can really work the ball around the court. The media is trying to make him shoot more. He's got one of those glorified shots. I believe that's why he looked like crap tonight. He was caught trying to find himself a shot on too many occasions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Good luck to us trying to rebound in the future. We are stuck with an unathletic white boy and a 6'6 WR trying to grab boards. Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 What can i say, that was ugly. Dee looked like absolute crap. Thank God he made 2 free throws at the end, or this possible loss would have been all on him. We did play a pretty good for a stretch in the 2nd half. But other than that, it was pretty foul. Turnovers everywhere, some terrible fouls and loose ball plays...i mean not scoring for about 5 minutes after working to get a 14 point lead is just inexcusable. We failed to run an offense half of the time. And on defense...i think UNC had about 3,000 points in the paint tonight. So many easy buckets, failed box outs, etc. We also didn't get back in transition vey well. There's certainly a lot to work on for this team. Dee certainly didn't show the leadership i expected him to tonight. He better come around, and come around soon. I'm glad it's a W instead of an L against a pretty talented team, but that was not very satisfying. I guess i should just be happy cuz it's a W, but that was not pretty. Also, Dickie V sucks, but that's old news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 04:25 AM) I think we are seeing how much Deron had an effect on Dee's game...... But then why was he so terrific his freshman year? This ones on Dee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Don't get to down on Dee. Marcus Ginyard is an elite defender, even as a freshmen. He's going to lock down alot of good point guards this year. Thats one thing this Carolina team can do, is defend. Now shooting and rebounding, thats yet to be found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 04:33 AM) Don't get to down on Dee. Marcus Ginyard is an elite defender, even as a freshmen. He's going to lock down alot of good point guards this year. Thats one thing this Carolina team can do, is defend. Now shooting and rebounding, thats yet to be found. R. Terry looks absolutely awful. I know he was supposed to be the main scorer for UNC this year, but his shooting has been pathetic so far. UNC is going to have a tough time making the tournament this year, as I think they'll struggle to win on the road in the ACC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Yeah Reyshawn has been forcing shots this year. he was 12-20 from behind the arc last year, and is 0-7 this year, its been ugly. But I feel much better about our chances in the ACC after watching 2-3 games so far. We have alot of guys that can defend, handle the ball, and give alot of effort. The most impressive thing to me about it was that in the 2nd half, only freshmen scored for UNC, nobody else. We also missed Quentin Thomas's PG minutes and defense. He can really get out and run the break, better than Frasor. Frasor is better in the half court set, in which we struggled tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 10:33 PM) Don't get to down on Dee. Marcus Ginyard is an elite defender, even as a freshmen. He's going to lock down alot of good point guards this year. Thats one thing this Carolina team can do, is defend. Now shooting and rebounding, thats yet to be found. I know. But he still didn't hit some open shots. He can't just limit himself to scoring in transition. If he's an all-american, he can't let a good defender make him shoot that terribly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 04:40 AM) I know. But he still didn't hit some open shots. He can't just limit himself to scoring in transition. If he's an all-american, he can't let a good defender make him shoot that terribly. Dee does a TERRIBLE job at squaring up for shots coming off of the dribble. He's a very good shooter when he gets the ball passed to him and can get his body underneath him. However, when he pulls up off the dribble, there aren't many worse shooters than he is. He was fading away on a lot of his shots tonight also. I've never thought that he projects as a NBA player, and everyone should be more concerned with how he does for the Illini than what this means for his NBA career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 a wins a win, but my god that was ugly. We should have blew them out. UNC played pretty god damn awful in that 2nd half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 10:43 PM) Dee does a TERRIBLE job at squaring up for shots coming off of the dribble. He's a very good shooter when he gets the ball passed to him and can get his body underneath him. However, when he pulls up off the dribble, there aren't many worse shooters than he is. He was fading away on a lot of his shots tonight also. I've never thought that he projects as a NBA player, and everyone should be more concerned with how he does for the Illini than what this means for his NBA career. I am, and i was for Deron and Luther. I honestly could care less what these guys do in the NBA (i mean i'd rather have them be successful, but you know what i mean) And you are correct about his shooting. But right now, he can't even make the open shots when he does have time to get his body under him. I don't understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 04:46 AM) I am, and i was for Deron and Luther. I honestly could care less what these guys do in the NBA (i mean i'd rather have them be successful, but you know what i mean) And you are correct about his shooting. But right now, he can't even make the open shots when he does have time to get his body under him. I don't understand it. Krush...you seem like an intelligent Illini fan. You know how a lot of the posters on the illiniboard seem to mention Dee's NBA career every other hour. Congrats on the win though...and congrats on getting Gordon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 10:48 PM) Krush...you seem like an intelligent Illini fan. You know how a lot of the posters on the illiniboard seem to mention Dee's NBA career every other hour. Congrats on the win though...and congrats on getting Gordon. Yeah i know what you mean with that. I don't just look at college basketball players and try to figure out how good they'll be in the pros. The same goes for college football players and the NFL. When i tell people i think Bush should win the Heisman, some have said that Young/Leinart will be a better pro. Guess what, I DON'T CARE. And furthermore, last time i checked, "nfl potential" wasn't a factor in the Heisman voting. When Crouch won it for Nebraska, he deserved it. It doesn't matter what he did in the NFL. I want Dee to be a good college player and help the Illini win some games, not just develop into an NBA point guard. And right now if his concern is the NBA... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Some positives about that Illinois game are that Jamar Smith is a spectacular shooter and better defender than I thought, and Brian Randle could be excellent if he'd stop taking stupid fouls. Also, IMO Shaun Pruitt is under utilized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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