Mariotti

[TLAK]

I had listened to the press conference last night and when I glanced at Mariotti’s column today, his quotes seemed at odds with what Ozzie actually said, so I looked up the transcript on MLB.Com.

 

Mariotti’s quote: "I was concerned about him. I was worried,'' manager Ozzie Guillen said. "But that's the best I've seen him throw all year long.''

 

MLB Transcript: “I think the first inning set the tone. We don't know how (Jon) Garland is going to show up because he's been laid off for so many days, I was concerned, I was not worried, but I was concerned to see how he did.”

 

Several questions later:

 

“He showed people today, he was throwing strikes, and I think one of the best games he pitched he pitched real well this year, and I think that's the best I've seen him throw all year long. “

 

 

What a dick! Ozzie says he was NOT worried, Mariotti quotes that he was worried. He then snips a sentence Ozzie said several minutes later and splices it onto the first as if it were a single quote. Any reader who didn’t hear the press conference gets a very different sense of what Ozzie was saying by reading Mariotti than what Ozzie actually said. And its not just a question of paraphrasing when a guy says he was not worried, and you print it as he was worried.

 

Its pretty harmless on this occasion but it is an object lesson on how he operates, this is standard fare for the Sun-Times lead columnist. This little rant of mine is not about his opinion, I couldn’t get though the column to find out what it was, but about how he manipulates his ‘facts’. He has zero credibility.

[nitetrain8601]

Eh. Deep down Mariotti loves this team. Anyone catch that new show on ESPN Classic with Chris something? Mariotti was on it saying that the White Sox style of play makes it fun to watch and he was a fan. He said the White Sox have revived Chicago and everything. I mean he was slurping off everyone including Ozzie.

[Gene Honda Civic]

P-0wned, or however you say that.

 

Nice catch TLAK.

[winninguglyin83]

pass along the info to the sun-times

[CanOfCorn]

pass along the info to the sun-times

 

Who is this Mariotti you speak of?

[HuskyCaucasian]

pass along the info to the sun-times

 

I second that. Techincally, he was making up news. He could be (but wont) be fired for that.

[BabyJesus69]

I second that. Techincally, he was making up news. He could be (but wont) be fired for that.

 

i recall a detroit reporter getting himself in a pretty big mess when he made up a story about michigan state basketball last spring....but people took him seriously

[Mercy!]

I disagree. I didn’t read the column you refer to, but I heard enough quotes from Ozzie and Don Cooper before, during and after the game to get the impression that they WERE a little concerned with Garland being a bit too strong after his long lay off. And then they were thrilled with the outcome. That was the gist of it. Do you think you may be letting your feelings about Mariotti cloud your judgement?

 

I don’t read sports writers on deadline and compare their quotes word for word with an audio transcript. But I do notice that if I read several different reporters, they’ll all have slightly different renditions of the words that everyone has heard. That is totally accepted in the profession. This isn’t a presidential news conference, folks! No one bats an eye unless something controversial has been said (oh, say, like Ozzie’s homosexual/child molester comment. Everyone made sure they got that quote EXACTLY right, because they needed to).

 

Finally, do you actually listen to Ozzie? If someone like Mariotti just printed verbatim what comes out of Ozzie’s mouth most days, people would be justified in thinking that he was taking unfair shots at his English.

 

Hey, what ever happened to the idea of just one "I hate Jay Mariotti" thread?

[hammerhead johnson]

Mariotti’s quote: "I was concerned about him. I was worried,'' manager Ozzie Guillen said. "But that's the best I've seen him throw all year long.''

 

Guillen's Quote: “We don't know how Garland is going to show up because he's been laid off for so many days, I was concerned, I was not worried, but I was concerned to see how he did.”

 

That's a pretty obvious botch job by Mariotti, Mercy.

[Gene Honda Civic]

I disagree.  I didn’t read the column you refer to, but I heard enough quotes from Ozzie and Don Cooper before, during and after the game to get the impression that they WERE a little concerned with Garland being a bit too strong after his long lay off.  And then they were thrilled with the outcome.  That was the gist of it.  Do you think you may be letting your feelings about Mariotti cloud your judgement?

 

I don’t read sports writers on deadline and compare their quotes word for word with an audio transcript.  But I do notice that if I read several different reporters, they’ll all have slightly different renditions of the words that everyone has heard.  That is totally accepted in the profession.  This isn’t a presidential news conference, folks!  No one bats an eye unless something controversial has been said (oh, say, like Ozzie’s homosexual/child molester comment.  Everyone made sure they got that quote EXACTLY right, because they needed to).

 

Finally, do you actually listen to Ozzie?  If someone like Mariotti just printed verbatim what comes out of Ozzie’s mouth most days, people would be justified in thinking that he was taking unfair shots at his English.

 

Hey, what ever happened to the idea of just one "I hate Jay Mariotti" thread?

 

From the article in question.

 

Mentions of the name....

 

Garland - 5

Eddings - 10

Monkey - 7

Konerko - 1

Guillen - 2

Ligue - 1

 

Make no mistake about it, the guy is a giant douche. Ligue gets as many mentions as the offensive hero. The right field umpire gets twice as many games as the pitcher who threw a complete game 4-hitter in his first postseason start.

Edited October 15, 2005 by Gene Honda Civic

[Mercy!]

From the article in question.

 

Mentions of the name....

 

Garland - 5

Eddings - 10

Monkey - 7

Konerko - 1

Guillen - 2

Ligue - 1

 

Make no mistake about it, the guy is a giant douche. Ligue gets as many mentions as the offensive hero. The right field umpire gets twice as many games as the pitcher who threw a complete game 4-hitter in his first postseason start.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

But nothing in your post has anything to do with what I said in MY post which you quoted.

[TLAK]

I disagree.  I didn’t read the column you refer to, but I heard enough quotes from Ozzie and Don Cooper before, during and after the game to get the impression that they WERE a little concerned with Garland being a bit too strong after his long lay off.  And then they were thrilled with the outcome.  That was the gist of it.  Do you think you may be letting your feelings about Mariotti cloud your judgement?

 

I don’t read sports writers on deadline and compare their quotes word for word with an audio transcript.  But I do notice that if I read several different reporters, they’ll all have slightly different renditions of the words that everyone has heard.  That is totally accepted in the profession.  This isn’t a presidential news conference, folks!  No one bats an eye unless something controversial has been said (oh, say, like Ozzie’s homosexual/child molester comment.  Everyone made sure they got that quote EXACTLY right, because they needed to).

 

Finally, do you actually listen to Ozzie?  If someone like Mariotti just printed verbatim what comes out of Ozzie’s mouth most days, people would be justified in thinking that he was taking unfair shots at his English.

 

Hey, what ever happened to the idea of just one "I hate Jay Mariotti" thread?

I buy a lot of what you say, I do have a grudge against Mariotti. This article struck me because it's one of the few times a reader has access to the primary source itself. I guess the lesson I should really draw from this is to beleive very little of what I read in the papers. ---or internet message boards for that matter.