hammerhead johnson Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Per fanball.com Bucks: Mason shipped to Hornets for Magloire The Bucks have agreed to trade swingman Desmond Mason, it's 2006 first-round pick and cash to the Hornets for center Jamaal Magloire, according to ESPN. The trade will be announced later today and it gives the Bucks the physical post presence they felt they lacked. Our View This move obviously changes expectations for a number of players. The Hornets had few notable offensive options with guard J.R. Smith leading the way. This gives them another slasher who can get to the hoop and create plays on the offensive side of the ball. They'll look to veteran P.J. Brown and Maciej Lampe to pick up minutes at center with Magloire's departure. It gives the Bucks someone to mentor rookie Andrew Bogut, more strength in the low post game, and allows forward Bobby Simmons to take on a greater role in the offense. For fantasy owners looking to revise their player rankings, downgrade Bogut and Magloire and move Simmons and Mason up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 I think Milwaukee got ripped off. Desmond Mason and a 1st rd pick are worth way more than Jamal Magloire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted October 26, 2005 Author Share Posted October 26, 2005 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Oct 26, 2005 -> 06:12 PM) I think Milwaukee got ripped off. Desmond Mason and a 1st rd pick are worth way more than Jamal Magloire I like Mason too. He's one of the truly unsung perimiter defenders in this league, kinda like Eric Williams or Tony Allen. He'd have been one hell of a 6th man this year for the Bucks. Seriously though, Magloire is an absolute terror on the boards when healthy. And that 2006 1st Round Pick ain't gonna mean s*** when they win 45+ games. The Bucks pulled off a heist today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 So will Bogut be playing some PF with Magloire at C? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted October 26, 2005 Author Share Posted October 26, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFanForever @ Oct 26, 2005 -> 06:51 PM) So will Bogut be playing some PF with Magloire at C? Well, both Dan Gadzuric and Andrew Bogut are completely incapable of playing any PF because their feet are so slow. Think Rasho Nesterovic or Joe Przybilla type feet. I've been reading that Bogut may very well get some minutes there, but if I were the coach, there would be no freaking way. That's just borderline retarded in my basketball world. Remember, Gadzuric will be getting plenty of minutes at C with that questionable contract he received this past offseason. The Bucks are an incredibly stupid organization, make no mistake about it. I see Magloire and Joe Smith manning the 4 in the majority of cases. The Bucks are surprisingly deep in the frontcourt as of now in terms of scoring and rebounding, but they're clearly lacking in terms of defense. When you have slow feet, you're getting f***ed over left and right. They're gonna get obliterated in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Great move by the Bucks if you ask me. Magloire, when healthy, is a near upper echelon big man and will join a pretty good group including the likes of Bogut and Gadzuric plus you have Michael Redd, Bobby Simmons, and TJ Ford (who should be 100%). The Bucks are big time sleepers in the East and are much improved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Everyone adds "when healthy" next to Magloires name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 I think Bogut might move to the 4 spot depending on matchups. Bogut has a perimeter game unlike Magloire who's strictly inside. Think of them as two big men instead of PF and C's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted October 26, 2005 Author Share Posted October 26, 2005 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Oct 26, 2005 -> 10:00 PM) Everyone adds "when healthy" next to Magloires name. His career thus far: 2000-01 74 GAMES 2001-02 82 GAMES 2002-03 82 GAMES 2003-04 82 GAMES 2004-05 23 GAMES An injury-prone player? Sort of, but you could say the same for a s***load of big-name players in this league. Fact is, Magloire is an impact big man on both ends of the court. He was originally thought of as moreso of a defensive specialist, but his post game has really developed over the past couple of years. He's worth a heck of a lot more than Desmond Mason and a mid first round pick. And as I stated before, I really like Desmond Mason. He's on my Top 15 Perimiter/Mid-Range Defenders List with Tayshaun Prince, Ron Artest, Josh Smith, Andrei Kirilenko, Tony Allen, Mikael Pietrus, Danny Granger, Trenton Hassell, Eric Williams, Andre Iguodala, Bruce Bowen, Caron Butler, Gerald Wallace, and James Posey. But make no mistake about it, Milwaukee is now much better with Magloire than they were with Mason. They wouldn't have the team defense necessary to advance in the playoffs under either scenario, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted October 26, 2005 Author Share Posted October 26, 2005 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Oct 26, 2005 -> 10:31 PM) I think Bogut might move to the 4 spot depending on matchups. Bogut has a perimeter game unlike Magloire who's strictly inside. We're gonna see just how much of a defensive liability he is at the 4. I've read the same crap about him getting minutes out of that slot. PFs are supposed to be bangers and rebounders, not candy-ass slow-footed motherf***ers with a "perimiter game". That sounds like some Supersonics type horses*** to me, but whatever floats their boat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Wow maybe the Hornets should have taken those Raptors 2 1st rounders when they had the chance. Desmond Mason's a damn nice player, but Magliore's worth a lot more that what Milwaulkee gave up for him. They could be a top 4 team in my mind now in the East, depending if T.J Ford can stay healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Oct 26, 2005 -> 01:33 PM) Seriously though, Magloire is an absolute terror on the boards when healthy. And that 2006 1st Round Pick ain't gonna mean s*** when they win 45+ games. The Bucks pulled off a heist today. I agree completely. A solid big man like him is much more valuable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Yep, the Bucks got better by picking up Magloire. I have doubts in Bogut right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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