Rowand44 Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 11:32 PM) http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2209832 "Boston reliever Mike Myers also filed for free agency. The left-hander was 3-1 last season with a 3.13 ERA in 65 appearances spanning 37 1/3 innings." Trade Marte for offensive help and sign Myers! Myers has become a guy I really want, he's so perfect for Ozzie's managerial style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Myers has become a guy I really want, he's so perfect for Ozzie's managerial style. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Exactly. Ozzie can use Myers for one or two lefties instead of wasting Cotts on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 1, 2005 Author Share Posted November 1, 2005 (edited) Myers is a pos loogy. :puke Edited November 1, 2005 by qwerty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 (edited) Myers is a pos loogy. :puke <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What? Myers is good against lefties and he is perfect for Ozzie. Myers sucks against righties so let Ozzie use Myers just for a lefty or two and save Cotts for lefties and righties. Edited November 1, 2005 by SSH2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 1, 2005 Author Share Posted November 1, 2005 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 1, 2005 -> 12:47 AM) What? Myers is good against lefties and he is perfect for Ozzie. Myers sucks against righties so let Ozzie use Myers just for a lefty or two and save Cotts for lefties and righties. I hate loogy's. If you cannot get a right hander out i do not want you on my team. If he was the last man in the pen ( extra inning game) the game would be over once he enters. Right handers absolutely obliterate him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Nov 1, 2005 -> 12:52 AM) I hate loogy's. If you cannot get a right hander out i do not want you on my team. If he was the last man in the pen ( extra inning game) the game would be over once he enters. Right handers absolutely obliterate him. You don't take into consideration ozzie's style of managing, whether you hate them or not Ozzie wants a loogy and he's managed like that both years he's been here. Myers would be an absolute perfect fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 1, 2005 Author Share Posted November 1, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Nov 1, 2005 -> 12:54 AM) You don't take into consideration ozzie's style of managing, whether you hate them or not Ozzie wants a loogy and he's managed like that both years he's been here. Myers would be an absolute perfect fit. Doesn't make myers suck any less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Myers is an interesting situation. I tend to agree more with Rowand and SSH than qwerty on this one. The way Ozzie uses his pen, Myers will be used for 1 guy. It doesn't matter if he's the last guy in the pen in an extra inning game, because how many times where we in that type of situation in 2005? We'll most likely have 12 in the pen I'd say. Of course we could just go after Scott Eyre instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 1, 2005 Author Share Posted November 1, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Nov 1, 2005 -> 12:56 AM) Myers is an interesting situation. I tend to agree more with Rowand and SSH than qwerty on this one. The way Ozzie uses his pen, Myers will be used for 1 guy. It doesn't matter if he's the last guy in the pen in an extra inning game, because how many times where we in that type of situation in 2005? We'll most likely have 12 in the pen I'd say. Of course we could just go after Scott Eyre instead. I know he serves a purpose but i just do not like loogy's... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 I hate loogy's. If you cannot get a right hander out i do not want you on my team. If he was the last man in the pen ( extra inning game) the game would be over once he enters. Right handers absolutely obliterate him. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sure, righties destroy Myers but who cares? We managed to get by with a terrible Marte who couldn't get lefties or righties out and Cotts, whom Ozzie oftentimes used just for lefties. Myers would be cheap and would allow Cotts to become a 1 or 2 inning guy. And if we keep El Duque in the pen, it would solve the problem you are worried about anyways. Myers would be a cheap addition that would allow us package up Marte in a trade for offense. A guy like Eyre, who can also get righties out, would cost a lot more than Myers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Nov 1, 2005 -> 04:56 PM) I know he serves a purpose but i just do not like loogy's... Well, if you have a real good one, lefty loogy's can actually be a very nice weapon to have. I think in essence, what we're trying to say, we'll need another lefty for the pen anyway, when Marte is traded. And since Damaso was used mainly against lefties this season, why not bring in a guy who dominates against them? There's just not many lefties out there like a Neal Cotts who can do such a good job for ya. Unfortunately, Eyre the best LHRP out there, is probably going to get a nice 2 or 3 year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 (edited) Myers is an interesting situation. I tend to agree more with Rowand and SSH than qwerty on this one. The way Ozzie uses his pen, Myers will be used for 1 guy. It doesn't matter if he's the last guy in the pen in an extra inning game, because how many times where we in that type of situation in 2005? We'll most likely have 12 in the pen I'd say. Of course we could just go after Scott Eyre instead. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If we don't trade El Duque, he would solve the extra-inning game problem. Eyre would obviously be a better choice than Myers but he would cost more because he can get lefties and righties out. We could sign Myers to a one year deal while Eyre will probably get a two or three year deal for quite a bit more money. Edited November 1, 2005 by SSH2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 1, 2005 Author Share Posted November 1, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Nov 1, 2005 -> 12:59 AM) Well, if you have a real good one, lefty loogy's can actually be a very nice weapon to have. I think in essence, what we're trying to say, we'll need another lefty for the pen anyway, when Marte is traded. And since Damaso was used mainly against lefties this season, why not bring in a guy who dominates against them? There's just not many lefties out there like a Neal Cotts who can do such a good job for ya. Unfortunately, Eyre the best LHRP out there, is probably going to get a nice 2 or 3 year deal. You are not telling me anything i don't know. All that i want is if we get a left handed reliever that is forces cotts into a bigger role... as i consider him the best pitcher int he pen. I also consider him to have the most potential out of the bullpen arm. I am looking for 70 plus innings from him coming at more crucial times ( like the last month or two). I still think marte will get back into form once he is with another team. I don't know if he is just that big of a head case or his neck was killing him all season... but his stuff is still as neasty as ever. His release point and form looked different compared to years past. All he does now is drop down to far and throw his slider a couple feet out of the strike zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 One lefty in the pen. Haigwood if you need two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 One lefty in the pen. Haigwood if you need two. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I want two lefties in the pen but I think Haigwood needs to work on his control a bit more before he's ready for the majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 1, 2005 Author Share Posted November 1, 2005 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 1, 2005 -> 01:33 AM) I want two lefties in the pen but I think Haigwood needs to work on his control a bit more before he's ready for the majors. There is really no need for lefties considering we have three guys that get them out at very high rates ( jenks, cotts, politte). But we will have a second in 2006 so it is a moot imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 (edited) Ichiro wants out of Seattle? http://www.insidebayarea.com/davedelgrande/ci_3164136 "DATELINE: In front of Bonds. The baseball off-season has gotten off to a very quiet start in Seattle. Too quiet. Rumor has it Ichiro has grown tired of the Mariners' losing ways and wants out, but Seattle-area reporters aren't publicizing it because they like dealing with the Japanese hitting star on a daily basis. They're hoping the All-Star changes his mind before his request for a trade becomes a demand. Believe it: The Mariners are accepting offers right now for the standout leadoff hitter, and the price is only going to go up if/when Ichiro's true feelings about wanting out become public, prompting more teams to get Bill Bavasi on the phone." If this is true would you give up Garland and Rowand for Ichiro? Then, you could have an outfield of Podsednik in left, Anderson in center, and Ichiro in right with Dye as the DH. It would be a light-hitting outfield but they would have good OBP and speed. Iguchi would have to be the #3 hitter then though. Eh, maybe it isn't a very good idea. Edited November 1, 2005 by SSH2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 That would take one hell of a fricken deal to get Ichiro...everyone and their mothers will want him.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 1, 2005 Author Share Posted November 1, 2005 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 1, 2005 -> 02:48 AM) Ichiro wants out of Seattle? http://www.insidebayarea.com/davedelgrande/ci_3164136 "DATELINE: In front of Bonds. The baseball off-season has gotten off to a very quiet start in Seattle. Too quiet. Rumor has it Ichiro has grown tired of the Mariners' losing ways and wants out, but Seattle-area reporters aren't publicizing it because they like dealing with the Japanese hitting star on a daily basis. They're hoping the All-Star changes his mind before his request for a trade becomes a demand. Believe it: The Mariners are accepting offers right now for the standout leadoff hitter, and the price is only going to go up if/when Ichiro's true feelings about wanting out become public, prompting more teams to get Bill Bavasi on the phone." If this is true would you give up Garland, Rowand, and prospects for Ichiro? Then, you could throw Anderson in center field, Ichiro in right field, and use Dye as DH. Ichiro is the least of our needs and ''demanding a trade'' is laughable. The player has no say in whether he is traded or not. Guess what? If he is not traded he will end up showing up and playing anyway. I only want to trade garland ( or any of our pitching for that matter ) for a bat in the 3-5 hole range. Ichiro is an espensive and aging player that will bat in a place we do not need a large upgrade ( and i hate podsednik). Say no to ichiro! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 1, 2005 Author Share Posted November 1, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 05:05 PM) Kenji johjima is the best hitter in japan at this point and time and will likely come over this season. He is a pretty damn good contact hitter and he is just getting better with age ( much like iguchi). The Mariners are likely to arrange a visit with Japanese catcher Kenji Jojima after he arrives in the U.S. later this month. Sources in the organization told the Seattle Post-Intelligencer that there is some interest in Jojima, even though upgrading at catcher isn't considered a top priority. Unless a bargain presents itself, the Mariners could go with Yorvit Torrealba as the starter next year. Nov. 1 - 3:50 am et Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Ichiro is the least of our needs and ''demanding a trade'' is laughable. The player has no say in whether he is traded or not. Guess what? If he is not traded he will end up showing up and playing anyway. I only want to trade garland ( or any of our pitching for that matter ) for a bat in the 3-5 hole range. Ichiro is an espensive and aging player that will bat in a place we do not need a large upgrade ( and i hate podsednik). Say no to ichiro! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, I just thought it over. If we traded for Ichiro, Iguchi would likely have to be our #3 hitter and Dye would be our DH. We would lose a lot of power and we would still not have a very good #3 hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 How about an Ichiro deal involving Podsednik? I don't like the idea of dealing any of our current starting pitchers one iota, but if they asked for a package of something like Podsednik and a couple minor leaguers (of any name other than McCarthy) I'd be open to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Apparently, Ichiro doesn't have the best relationship with Mike Hargrove the manager. Probably a good reason as to why you're seeing rumors like that being floated around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 I'd trade Pods, along with others, for Ichiro in a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Just say no... To Ichiro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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