Buehrle>Wood Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/awards/y...?award=nominees Garland and Buehrle are two of the 3 finalists for the AL's best pitcher. the 3rd being Colon. No Gooch for the Rookie award. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 NO Gooch!??!!? WTF is that s***? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkalk Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Gooch probably isn't on the list because most of what he did was just move Pods over. Granted, that still meant a lot to this team, but that's not normally something that sticks in people's minds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Gooch isn't on the list because he's 30 w/ years of professional experience. Agree with it or not, I doubt the players see him as a "rookie." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 QUOTE(sircaffey @ Oct 28, 2005 -> 03:24 PM) Gooch isn't on the list because he's 30 w/ years of professional experience. Agree with it or not, I doubt the players see him as a "rookie." Did these awards exist in 2000? Or in 2003? If so, did Ichiro and Matsui get their names on the lists? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Oct 28, 2005 -> 05:36 PM) Did these awards exist in 2000? Or in 2003? If so, did Ichiro and Matsui get their names on the lists? Ichiro's season in '01 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iguchi's season in '05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted October 28, 2005 Author Share Posted October 28, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Oct 28, 2005 -> 11:45 PM) Ichiro's season in '01 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iguchi's season in '05 Not the point. Ichiro was still eligible, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 If Ichiro was eligible, then Iguchi should be eligible. You can't just decide to hold being a Japanese pro against someone in 1 case but not do so in the other because 1 season stood out more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Oct 28, 2005 -> 06:54 PM) If Ichiro was eligible, then Iguchi should be eligible. You can't just decide to hold being a Japanese pro against someone in 1 case but not do so in the other because 1 season stood out more. IMO Johnny Gomes, Huston Street and Gustavo Chacin all had better seasons than Iguchi. Tadahito will get a good amount of votes for the real ROY award but he will not win it. I'd say a good amount of the players don't consider Iguchi to be a rookie however, the voters do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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