Official Re-sign Paul Konerko Thread

[RME JICO]

Most of the Texas players have inflated stats at Home, Soriano's is one of the biggest:

 

Soriano

HOME - .315, 25HR, 73 RBI, 1.144 OPS

AWAY - .224, 11HR, 31 RBI, .639 OPS

 

Blalock

HOME - .297, 20HR, 63 RBI, .895 OPS

AWAY - .231, 5 HR, 29 RBI, .611 OPS

 

Teixeira

HOME - .334, 30HR, 88 RBI, 1.109 OPS

AWAY - .270, 13HR, 56 RBI, .809 OPS

 

Really hard to gauge how good they really are with this type of drop off. The only guy that is consistent for them is Michael Young.

[Balta1701]

In terms of guys from Texas, it's also worth remembering that for home runs, we've got a ballpark that is basically just as good as Texas.

 

Also, at least for Soriano, we can go back to his Yankee days and see how much his numbers have changed since then.

 

2002: 39 HR, .879 OPS

2003: 38 HR, .863 OPS

2004: 28 HR, .808 OPS

2005: 36 HR, .820 OPS

 

Numbers wise, it actually looks like he had his best years thus far in Yankee stadium.

[GoodAsGould]

And Konerko's road stats are good? I havent looked at it this year but last season he was absolutely horrible on the road.... Yes all those rangers take advantage of their park but they also would be able to take advantage of our park.

[Kalapse]

And Konerko's road stats are good?  I havent looked at it this year but last season he was absolutely horrible on the road.... Yes all those rangers take advantage of their park but they also would be able to take advantage of our park.

They also take advantage of the light in center field.

[Balta1701]

And Konerko's road stats are good?  I havent looked at it this year but last season he was absolutely horrible on the road.... Yes all those rangers take advantage of their park but they also would be able to take advantage of our park.

Konerko in 05:

 

Road: .276 BA, 17 home runs, .863 OPS.

Home: .292 BA, 23 home runs, .959 OPS.

[RME JICO]

Konerko in 05:

 

Road:  .276 BA, 17 home runs, .863 OPS.

Home: .292 BA, 23 home runs, .959 OPS.

 

That is not that bad, only 6 less HR's. You would think that would have been alot more. That seems to be about the norm for Home and Away.

 

 

For the Sox, Gooch and Pods had the greatest deviation from Home to Away, but guys like AJ, Crede, Uribe, Rowand, and Everett hit better for average away. Dye was pretty consistent everywhere. Politte was unstoppable away with a 1.000 BA.

[CWSGuy406]

And Konerko's road stats are good?  I havent looked at it this year but last season he was absolutely horrible on the road.... Yes all those rangers take advantage of their park but they also would be able to take advantage of our park.

 

But, in Blalock's case, he barely put up replacement level numbers on the road. .231/.276/.335 are Timo-like numbers.

 

Tiexera you can make a case for, because he was still pretty damn good on the road -- something like an .800 OPS.

 

Blalock, quite frankly, wasn't very good this year.

[Balta1701]

Blalock, quite frankly, wasn't very good this year.

There are 2 ways to look at that.

 

1. Maybe he wasn't really as good as we thought he was.

2. Maybe he had a bad year, and since there are a lot of people thinking #1, his price might drop to where it's reasonable.

 

Take your pick which one you want to believe.

[Soxfest]

I like PK but not at 15 mil a year for 4 or 5 years.

[aboz56]

Any updates today on chicago radio on PK?

[Kalapse]

There are 2 ways to look at that.

 

1.  Maybe he wasn't really as good as we thought he was.

2.  Maybe he had a bad year, and since there are a lot of people thinking #1, his price might drop to where it's reasonable.

 

Take your pick which one you want to believe.

3. Buehrle was right

[DBAHO]

NY Post piece;

 

8. PAUL KONERKO

 

The best power bat on the market. One of five players to reach 40 homers-100 RBIs in each of the past two seasons. Plus he is a good clubhouse guy who performed superbly on a champion. Richie Sexson got four years, $52 million last offseason coming off a serious shoulder injury, so you can expect Konerko wants at least five years. The White Sox want to keep him, but might not go to the financial lengths. The Angels are players, but they might have to address it in the trade market to rid themselves of other big contracts.

 

Likely landing spots: 1. White Sox (five years, $65 million). 2. Angels (they might get Manny Ramirez instead, though manager Mike Scioscia has an association with Konerko dating to their Dodger days). 3. Red Sox (Konerko is a native New Englander and could come into play if Ramirez is traded).

[RME JICO]

I will be surprised if the Sox give Paulie anything more than $13 million over 5. They can afford it, but that would be a huge risk in the 4th and 5th years. If they set a precedence with Paulie by "showing him the money", then guys like Crede (400k) and Pods (700k - All-Star) will be due some big raises in the near future as well. Something will have to give.

 

2005 Salaries

 

Paul Konerko $ 8,750,000

Jose Contreras $ 8,500,000

Freddy Garcia $ 8,000,000

Frank Thomas $ 8,000,000

Mark Buehrle $ 6,000,000

 

Jermaine Dye $ 4,000,000

Carl Everett $ 4,000,000

Orlando Hernandez $ 3,500,000

Jon Garland $ 3,400,000

 

Tadahito Iguchi $ 2,300,000

A.J. Pierzynski $ 2,250,000

Juan Uribe $ 2,150,000

Dustin Hermanson $ 2,000,000

Aaron Rowand $ 2,000,000

 

Luis Vizcaino $ 1,300,000

Damaso Marte $ 1,250,000

Timo Perez $ 1,000,000

Cliff Politte $ 1,000,000

Scott Podsednik $ 700,000

Chris Widger $ 500,000

Joe Crede $ 400,000

Willie Harris $ 365,000

Ross Gload $ 335,000

Neal Cotts $ 330,000

Pablo Ozuna $ 330,000

Edited November 6, 2005 by WinninUgly

[Kalapse]

Podsednik is not longed for this team. IMO he'll be gone in 2 years.

[hi8is]

Podsednik is not longed for this team. IMO he'll be gone in 2 years.

ok, thanks for playing doctor dip.

[hi8is]

anyone else hungover?

[Whitesoxfan56]

Podsednik is not longed for this team. IMO he'll be gone in 2 years.

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Why do you say that? Is it because of the amount of young minor league OF talent we have in the minors? I am just wondering

[Rowand44]

Podsednik is not longed for this team. IMO he'll be gone in 2 years.

Unless the Sox think Owens can take over for Scott in 07 I think Pods will be here for a while.

[Balta1701]

Podsednik is not longed for this team. IMO he'll be gone in 2 years.

I think I agree with Kalapse on this one. Podsednik is not a young man. He is rapidly closing in on 30, and his body may already be starting to wear down a bit - that groin injury cropped up at least 2 different times last year, and it took him months to get over it the 2nd time.

 

Scott Podsednik is a starter because of his speed. If he even loses 1 step, he rapidly becomes a backup outfielder at best. And as you get older, you tend to start to lose a step.

 

With as many young outfielders as this organization has on the way up right now, while Scotty was wonderful this year, he'll start hitting arbitration fairly soon, and at the same time he'll start getting up there in years. And the team will probably wind up better giving time to its young guys. In order to hold onto Buehrle, Garland, Konerko, and eventually BMac, we're going to have to infuse some youth into that lineup, and the perfect place to do it si the outfield, where we have a ton of youth coming up.

[maggsmaggs]

There is no doubt that Kenny will look to shop Pods this year. If there is a solid offer on the table he will pull the trigger because Pods is a little over-rated and with Anderson ready, he might be better than Pods.

[DBAHO]

There is no doubt that Kenny will look to shop Pods this year.  If there is a solid offer on the table he will pull the trigger because Pods is a little over-rated and with Anderson ready, he might be better than Pods.

I can't see that happening this off-season, although now would be a good time to move him since his value is pretty high, and for the reasons Balta mentioned.

 

I think the Sox won't make a move with him, whether it's re-signing him or trading, until the likes of Owens and Young are ready in 2006. You gotta remember, if Pods go and Anderson fills in, who's going to leadoff?

[Rowand44]

There is no doubt that Kenny will look to shop Pods this year.  If there is a solid offer on the table he will pull the trigger because Pods is a little over-rated and with Anderson ready, he might be better than Pods.

And then who leads off?? Kenny and Oz love pods he's not going anywhere this year and unless they think Owens can take over and play everyday I don't think Scott's going anywhere for a few years, meaning I think the sox will lock him up maybe even this year.

[YASNY]

I look for Pods to be with us in '06. Betting he'll be trade bait after the '06 season.

[DBAHO]

I look for Pods to be with us in '06.  Betting he'll be trade bait after the '06 season.

Probably not the best time to trade him either, when you look at what's on the market. You can sign Rafael Furcal (even though he'll cost ya 36/4-40/4), sign Johnny Damon, or trade for Juan Pierre (who'd be an excellent candidate to bounce back like Pods).

 

The 2006 off-season certainly makes more sense on that regard.

[YASNY]

Probably not the best time to trade him either, when you look at what's on the market. You can sign Rafael Furcal (even though he'll cost ya 36/4-40/4), sign Johnny Damon, or trade for Juan Pierre (who'd be an excellent candidate to bounce back like Pods).

 

The 2006 off-season certainly makes more sense on that regard.

 

That and the fact our young guns in the minors will have another year of experience under their belts.