RME JICO Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 Most of the Texas players have inflated stats at Home, Soriano's is one of the biggest: Soriano HOME - .315, 25HR, 73 RBI, 1.144 OPS AWAY - .224, 11HR, 31 RBI, .639 OPS Blalock HOME - .297, 20HR, 63 RBI, .895 OPS AWAY - .231, 5 HR, 29 RBI, .611 OPS Teixeira HOME - .334, 30HR, 88 RBI, 1.109 OPS AWAY - .270, 13HR, 56 RBI, .809 OPS Really hard to gauge how good they really are with this type of drop off. The only guy that is consistent for them is Michael Young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 In terms of guys from Texas, it's also worth remembering that for home runs, we've got a ballpark that is basically just as good as Texas. Also, at least for Soriano, we can go back to his Yankee days and see how much his numbers have changed since then. 2002: 39 HR, .879 OPS 2003: 38 HR, .863 OPS 2004: 28 HR, .808 OPS 2005: 36 HR, .820 OPS Numbers wise, it actually looks like he had his best years thus far in Yankee stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 And Konerko's road stats are good? I havent looked at it this year but last season he was absolutely horrible on the road.... Yes all those rangers take advantage of their park but they also would be able to take advantage of our park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Nov 5, 2005 -> 04:27 PM) And Konerko's road stats are good? I havent looked at it this year but last season he was absolutely horrible on the road.... Yes all those rangers take advantage of their park but they also would be able to take advantage of our park. They also take advantage of the light in center field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Nov 5, 2005 -> 02:27 PM) And Konerko's road stats are good? I havent looked at it this year but last season he was absolutely horrible on the road.... Yes all those rangers take advantage of their park but they also would be able to take advantage of our park. Konerko in 05: Road: .276 BA, 17 home runs, .863 OPS. Home: .292 BA, 23 home runs, .959 OPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 5, 2005 -> 05:31 PM) Konerko in 05: Road: .276 BA, 17 home runs, .863 OPS. Home: .292 BA, 23 home runs, .959 OPS. That is not that bad, only 6 less HR's. You would think that would have been alot more. That seems to be about the norm for Home and Away. For the Sox, Gooch and Pods had the greatest deviation from Home to Away, but guys like AJ, Crede, Uribe, Rowand, and Everett hit better for average away. Dye was pretty consistent everywhere. Politte was unstoppable away with a 1.000 BA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Nov 5, 2005 -> 10:27 PM) And Konerko's road stats are good? I havent looked at it this year but last season he was absolutely horrible on the road.... Yes all those rangers take advantage of their park but they also would be able to take advantage of our park. But, in Blalock's case, he barely put up replacement level numbers on the road. .231/.276/.335 are Timo-like numbers. Tiexera you can make a case for, because he was still pretty damn good on the road -- something like an .800 OPS. Blalock, quite frankly, wasn't very good this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Nov 5, 2005 -> 07:16 PM) Blalock, quite frankly, wasn't very good this year. There are 2 ways to look at that. 1. Maybe he wasn't really as good as we thought he was. 2. Maybe he had a bad year, and since there are a lot of people thinking #1, his price might drop to where it's reasonable. Take your pick which one you want to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 I like PK but not at 15 mil a year for 4 or 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 Any updates today on chicago radio on PK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 5, 2005 -> 09:46 PM) There are 2 ways to look at that. 1. Maybe he wasn't really as good as we thought he was. 2. Maybe he had a bad year, and since there are a lot of people thinking #1, his price might drop to where it's reasonable. Take your pick which one you want to believe. 3. Buehrle was right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 NY Post piece; 8. PAUL KONERKO The best power bat on the market. One of five players to reach 40 homers-100 RBIs in each of the past two seasons. Plus he is a good clubhouse guy who performed superbly on a champion. Richie Sexson got four years, $52 million last offseason coming off a serious shoulder injury, so you can expect Konerko wants at least five years. The White Sox want to keep him, but might not go to the financial lengths. The Angels are players, but they might have to address it in the trade market to rid themselves of other big contracts. Likely landing spots: 1. White Sox (five years, $65 million). 2. Angels (they might get Manny Ramirez instead, though manager Mike Scioscia has an association with Konerko dating to their Dodger days). 3. Red Sox (Konerko is a native New Englander and could come into play if Ramirez is traded). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 (edited) I will be surprised if the Sox give Paulie anything more than $13 million over 5. They can afford it, but that would be a huge risk in the 4th and 5th years. If they set a precedence with Paulie by "showing him the money", then guys like Crede (400k) and Pods (700k - All-Star) will be due some big raises in the near future as well. Something will have to give. 2005 Salaries Paul Konerko $ 8,750,000 Jose Contreras $ 8,500,000 Freddy Garcia $ 8,000,000 Frank Thomas $ 8,000,000 Mark Buehrle $ 6,000,000 Jermaine Dye $ 4,000,000 Carl Everett $ 4,000,000 Orlando Hernandez $ 3,500,000 Jon Garland $ 3,400,000 Tadahito Iguchi $ 2,300,000 A.J. Pierzynski $ 2,250,000 Juan Uribe $ 2,150,000 Dustin Hermanson $ 2,000,000 Aaron Rowand $ 2,000,000 Luis Vizcaino $ 1,300,000 Damaso Marte $ 1,250,000 Timo Perez $ 1,000,000 Cliff Politte $ 1,000,000 Scott Podsednik $ 700,000 Chris Widger $ 500,000 Joe Crede $ 400,000 Willie Harris $ 365,000 Ross Gload $ 335,000 Neal Cotts $ 330,000 Pablo Ozuna $ 330,000 Edited November 6, 2005 by WinninUgly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 Podsednik is not longed for this team. IMO he'll be gone in 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Nov 6, 2005 -> 06:47 PM) Podsednik is not longed for this team. IMO he'll be gone in 2 years. ok, thanks for playing doctor dip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 anyone else hungover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesoxfan56 Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 Podsednik is not longed for this team. IMO he'll be gone in 2 years. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why do you say that? Is it because of the amount of young minor league OF talent we have in the minors? I am just wondering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Nov 6, 2005 -> 12:47 PM) Podsednik is not longed for this team. IMO he'll be gone in 2 years. Unless the Sox think Owens can take over for Scott in 07 I think Pods will be here for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Nov 6, 2005 -> 10:47 AM) Podsednik is not longed for this team. IMO he'll be gone in 2 years. I think I agree with Kalapse on this one. Podsednik is not a young man. He is rapidly closing in on 30, and his body may already be starting to wear down a bit - that groin injury cropped up at least 2 different times last year, and it took him months to get over it the 2nd time. Scott Podsednik is a starter because of his speed. If he even loses 1 step, he rapidly becomes a backup outfielder at best. And as you get older, you tend to start to lose a step. With as many young outfielders as this organization has on the way up right now, while Scotty was wonderful this year, he'll start hitting arbitration fairly soon, and at the same time he'll start getting up there in years. And the team will probably wind up better giving time to its young guys. In order to hold onto Buehrle, Garland, Konerko, and eventually BMac, we're going to have to infuse some youth into that lineup, and the perfect place to do it si the outfield, where we have a ton of youth coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 There is no doubt that Kenny will look to shop Pods this year. If there is a solid offer on the table he will pull the trigger because Pods is a little over-rated and with Anderson ready, he might be better than Pods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 03:05 PM) There is no doubt that Kenny will look to shop Pods this year. If there is a solid offer on the table he will pull the trigger because Pods is a little over-rated and with Anderson ready, he might be better than Pods. I can't see that happening this off-season, although now would be a good time to move him since his value is pretty high, and for the reasons Balta mentioned. I think the Sox won't make a move with him, whether it's re-signing him or trading, until the likes of Owens and Young are ready in 2006. You gotta remember, if Pods go and Anderson fills in, who's going to leadoff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Nov 6, 2005 -> 10:05 PM) There is no doubt that Kenny will look to shop Pods this year. If there is a solid offer on the table he will pull the trigger because Pods is a little over-rated and with Anderson ready, he might be better than Pods. And then who leads off?? Kenny and Oz love pods he's not going anywhere this year and unless they think Owens can take over and play everyday I don't think Scott's going anywhere for a few years, meaning I think the sox will lock him up maybe even this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 I look for Pods to be with us in '06. Betting he'll be trade bait after the '06 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 08:22 PM) I look for Pods to be with us in '06. Betting he'll be trade bait after the '06 season. Probably not the best time to trade him either, when you look at what's on the market. You can sign Rafael Furcal (even though he'll cost ya 36/4-40/4), sign Johnny Damon, or trade for Juan Pierre (who'd be an excellent candidate to bounce back like Pods). The 2006 off-season certainly makes more sense on that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 03:26 AM) Probably not the best time to trade him either, when you look at what's on the market. You can sign Rafael Furcal (even though he'll cost ya 36/4-40/4), sign Johnny Damon, or trade for Juan Pierre (who'd be an excellent candidate to bounce back like Pods). The 2006 off-season certainly makes more sense on that regard. That and the fact our young guns in the minors will have another year of experience under their belts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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