Goldmember Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 made for someone on different board but figured someone here might like... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 QUOTE(Goldmember @ Nov 5, 2005 -> 05:29 PM) made for someone on different board but figured someone here might like... boy what a bust he has been in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Nov 5, 2005 -> 06:58 PM) boy what a bust he has been in the NFL. Why isn't that in green? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Nov 5, 2005 -> 06:58 PM) boy what a bust he has been in the NFL. ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 QUOTE(Brian @ Nov 5, 2005 -> 07:43 PM) Why isn't that in green? considering he was what the no.1 pick you would expect a lot more from him. He has been a solid player but not great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 yea.. 4 pro bowl appearances in an 8 year career isnt that great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 QUOTE(Felix @ Nov 6, 2005 -> 10:45 AM) yea.. 4 pro bowl appearances in an 8 year career isnt that great most of it on reputation. He has had a couple good years however he is not a great player IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 And that reputation is gotten by being a great player.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Nov 6, 2005 -> 11:39 AM) considering he was what the no.1 pick you would expect a lot more from him. He has been a solid player but not great. Wasn't Peyton Manning the 1st pick? Woodson won the Heisman and that has nothing to do with pro potential. EDIT:Yes Peyton Manning was picked first, follwed by Ryan Leaf (bust), Andre Wadsworth (considering I don't know if he's playing, bust), then Charles Woodson at 4th and to fill out the top five, Curtis Enis (bust.) So there are 3 players in the top 5 that can be considered busts before Charles Woodson and the only other players in the top 10 that have had a good career are Kyle Turley at the 7th pick if you want to call that a good career and Fred Taylor at the 9th pick. Edited November 6, 2005 by WilliamTell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Nov 6, 2005 -> 05:43 PM) Wasn't Peyton Manning the 1st pick? Woodson won the Heisman and that has nothing to do with pro potential. EDIT:Yes Peyton Manning was picked first, follwed by Ryan Leaf (bust), Andre Wadsworth (considering I don't know if he's playing, bust), then Charles Woodson at 4th and to fill out the top five, Curtis Enis (bust.) So there are 3 players in the top 5 that can be considered busts before Charles Woodson and the only other players in the top 10 that have had a good career are Kyle Turley at the 7th pick if you want to call that a good career and Fred Taylor at the 9th pick. Fred Taylor is a better player than Charles Woodson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Nov 6, 2005 -> 07:21 PM) Fred Taylor is a better player than Charles Woodson. 2 absolutley different positions. With all do respect Josh, you were 9 during Woodson's senior year. He was a shut down corner. Not a lot of INT's cuz he never really tried for the big play. Just knock the ball away and cover. He is the ONLY defensive player to win the Heisman. Cornerbacks are tough to judge because there are really no stats to compare them. You have to watch. Woodson's first 5 or 6 NFL seasons, NFL QBs rarely threw his way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 QUOTE(Brian @ Nov 6, 2005 -> 07:38 PM) 2 absolutley different positions. With all do respect Josh, you were 9 during Woodson's senior year. He was a shut down corner. Not a lot of INT's cuz he never really tried for the big play. Just knock the ball away and cover. He is the ONLY defensive player to win the Heisman. Cornerbacks are tough to judge because there are really no stats to compare them. You have to watch. Woodson's first 5 or 6 NFL seasons, NFL QBs rarely threw his way. i remember. He not only was a conerback but he was used at Wide Receiver and returned kicks I remember watching the Ohio State game in which he pretty much dominated. It has been sort of disappointing to see a lot of Michigan players be busts in the NFL. Bust is probably to strong a word however disappointing is something you could use for Woodson. It is sad to see that there has been only one legit superstar in the last 10 years to come out of Michigan in Tom Brady. On the positive Chris Perry, Braylon Edwards, and Marlon Jackson all look like they will be good players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 he-he-he This thread is making me chuckle. Woodson was drafted #4 overall in the 98' draft after Manning, Leaf, and Wadsworth. You can talk "busts" in the 98' first round; but, Woodson is not among them. For what it's worth, a little wide-reciever by the name of Randy Moss went, I believe, 21st in 98'. Things that make ya go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Nov 6, 2005 -> 07:45 PM) It is sad to see that there has been only one legit superstar in the last 10 years to come out of Michigan in Tom Brady. On the positive Chris Perry, Braylon Edwards, and Marlon Jackson all look like they will be good players. Look on a lot of NFL lines, you will see Michigan alum, both defense and offense. None superstars, but Charles Woodson was/is a superstar. His jersey was one of the best selling a few years back. Chris Perry got a bad deal being drafted by Cincy. With Rudi Johnson there, they may try and make him a WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Nov 6, 2005 -> 08:21 PM) Fred Taylor is a better player than Charles Woodson. I never said Fred Taylor wasn't a better player. I said Charles Woodson was the 2nd best player taken in the top 5 and was one of four players that weren't busts in the top 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Nov 6, 2005 -> 08:45 PM) i remember. He not only was a conerback but he was used at Wide Receiver and returned kicks I remember watching the Ohio State game in which he pretty much dominated. It has been sort of disappointing to see a lot of Michigan players be busts in the NFL. Bust is probably to strong a word however disappointing is something you could use for Woodson. It is sad to see that there has been only one legit superstar in the last 10 years to come out of Michigan in Tom Brady. On the positive Chris Perry, Braylon Edwards, and Marlon Jackson all look like they will be good players. Cato June is establishing himself as a very good linebacker. However I was/am very dissapointed in Tyrone Wheatley, Tim Biakabutuka, and Anthony Thomas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Nov 6, 2005 -> 11:37 PM) Cato June is establishing himself as a very good linebacker. However I was/am very dissapointed in Tyrone Wheatley, Tim Biakabutuka, and Anthony Thomas. Thomas did rush for 1,000 yards a couple of times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Nov 6, 2005 -> 08:55 PM) For what it's worth, a little wide-reciever by the name of Randy Moss went, I believe, 21st in 98'. Things that make ya go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Moss was painted as a trouble-maker and a "bad apple" by NFL scouts. That's why he fell to Minnesota. He Left Notre Dame and Florida St. before going to Marshall. He hung out with a bad crowd in High School... etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 01:30 AM) Thomas did rush for 1,000 yards a couple of times. Yeah he has twice, but now he's hardly even playing so that why I put him with the other two running backs. I'd say he's had the better pro career out of the 3 though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 10:51 AM) Yeah he has twice, but now he's hardly even playing so that why I put him with the other two running backs. I'd say he's had the better pro career out of the 3 though. Anthony Thomas isn't playing at all. He was released by the Cowboys and is currently without a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(Kalapse @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 12:29 PM) Anthony Thomas isn't playing at all. He was released by the Cowboys and is currently without a team. That would explain why he's only played 6 games this year wouldn't it. Edited November 8, 2005 by WilliamTell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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