Do as I say......Not as I do.

[NUKE_CLEVELAND]

I just ordered this book over Amazon.

 

 

A little taste.

 

After two years of research into liberal hypocrisy, Schweizer described his revelations as "stunning."

 

That may be understatement.

 

For example, Air America radio host Al Franken says conservatives are racist because they lack diversity and oppose affirmative action. But fewer than 1 percent of the people he has hired over the past 15 years have been African-American.

 

It gets worse.

 

Ted Kennedy has fought for the estate tax and spoken out against tax shelters. But he has repeatedly benefited from an intricate web of trusts and private foundations that have shielded most of his family's fortune from the IRS.

 

One Kennedy family trust wasn't even set up in the U.S., but in Fiji.

 

Similarly, Bill and Hillary Clinton have spoken in favor of the estate tax, and in 2000 Bill vetoed a bill seeking to end it. But the Clintons have set up a contract trust that allows them to substantially reduce the amount of inheritance tax their estate will pay when they die.

 

Hillary, for her part, has written and spoken extensively about the right of children to make major decisions regarding their own lives, such as having an abortion without parental consent.

 

But she barred 13-year-old daughter Chelsea from getting her ears pierced and forbade her to watch MTV or HBO.

 

And then there's Hollywood hypocrisy.

 

Barbra Streisand has talked about the necessity of unions to protect a "living wage." But she prefers to do her filming and postproduction work in Canada, where she can pay less than American union wages.

 

As for other liberals who like to offshore things, there's billionaire Bush-basher George Soros.

 

Soros says the wealthy should pay higher, more progressive tax rates. But he holds the bulk of his money in tax-free overseas accounts in Curacao, Bermuda and the Cayman Islands.

 

Schweizer sums up his book this way: "The reality is that liberals like to preach in moral platitudes. They like to condemn ordinary Americans and Republicans for a whole host of things - racism, lack of concern for the poor, polluting the environment, and greed. But when it comes to applying those same standards to themselves, liberals are found to be shockingly guilty of hypocrisy.

[KipWellsFan]

"The reality is that conservatives like to preach in moral platitudes. They like to condemn ordinary Americans and Liberals for a whole host of things - lack of patriotism, lack of action to protect Americans from terrorists, abuse of family values, and greed. But when it comes to applying those same standards to themselves, conservatives are found to be shockingly guilty of hypocrisy."

 

I hope this book is funny because books that divide are a dime a dozen

[NUKE_CLEVELAND]

"The reality is that conservatives like to preach in moral platitudes. They like to condemn ordinary Americans and Liberals for a whole host of things - lack of patriotism, lack of action to protect Americans from terrorists, abuse of family values, and greed. But when it comes to applying those same standards to themselves, conservatives are found to be shockingly guilty of hypocrisy."

 

I hope this book is funny because books that divide are a dime a dozen

 

 

Educational is more like it. Also, its ok for your side to point out our shortcomings but when we do it we're "divisive".

[Mercy!]

I sense a kindred spirit, as I love books and reading. So may I give you a few tips on book reviews?

 

>First, get the title right, spell all the words correctly, and include the author's full name, all of which you have failed to do. You owe it to the author. And it makes a good first impression on your readers.

 

>Second, it’s not enough to just order the book. You’ll need to receive it.

 

>Then (and here’s the time-consuming and more difficult part) you’ll actually have to read it.

 

>Next, take some notes as you go, mull things over, and then write down some of your own thoughts and post them here.

 

>Finally, it’s okay to cut and past a large block of someone else’s words about the work in question, as you have clearly done here in your initial post. But it’s considered really bad form not to credit the person who actually wrote them.

 

Hope I’ve been of some help. I look forward to your evaluation of this book - after you read it.

 

Kind Regards,

Captain Fact Check

[NUKE_CLEVELAND]

I sense a kindred spirit, as I love books and reading.  So may I give you a few tips on book reviews?

 

>First, get the title right, spell all the words correctly, and include the author's full name, all of which you have failed to do.  You owe it to the author.  And it makes a good first impression on your readers.

 

>Second, it’s not enough to just order the book.  You’ll need to receive it.

 

>Then (and here’s the time-consuming and more difficult part) you’ll actually have to read it.

 

>Next, take some notes as you go, mull things over, and then write down some of your own thoughts and post them here.

 

>Finally, it’s okay to cut and past a large block of someone else’s words about the work in question, as you have clearly done here in your initial post.  But it’s considered really bad form not to credit the person who actually wrote them.

 

Hope I’ve been of some help.  I look forward to your evaluation of this book - after you read it.

 

Kind Regards,

Captain Fact Check

 

 

I dont recall reviewing or commenting on anything. I posted a little snippet that I found on a website regarding a book that looked interesting to me. In the future I'll remember what you deem as the proper format for talking about books.........then laugh hysterically.

 

You can take your elitist, holier than thou attitude and kindly shove it up your ass. I promise you that you won't last very long here acting that way.

Edited November 6, 2005 by NUKE_CLEVELAND

[KipWellsFan]

Educational is more like it.  Also, its ok for your side to point out our shortcomings but when we do it we're "divisive".

 

Any book or movie or anything that paints the other side as the real problem is divise. Michael Moore, Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Bernie Goldberg and even Al Franken do it.

[Mercy!]

....You can take your elitist, holier than thou attitude and kindly shove it up your ass.  I promise you that you won't last very long here acting that way.

Dear, in regards to ‘shoving it up one’s ass’ – I’ve never had to resort to talking to others in that fashion. So I’ll just have to assume you know whereof you speak on that subject and leave it at that.

 

And I can assure you that if anyone here who actually speaks thoughtfully about issues contacts me and requests that I knock it off, or that I ratchet my attitude down a notch or two, I’ll give it serious consideration. Meanwhile, I’ve been around here long enough to smell which way the wind blows.

[NUKE_CLEVELAND]

Any book or movie or anything that paints the other side as the real problem is divise.  Michael Moore, Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Bernie Goldberg and even Al Franken do it.

 

 

 

I dont disagree that the book is divisive ( thats probably why I can't wait to get my hands on it ), I just get tired of hearing the lefties in the media paint the right as the dividers while leaving the left untouched. We're on the same page on that point.

[Texsox]

I dont disagree that the book is divisive ( thats probably why I can't wait to get my hands on it  ), I just get tired of hearing the lefties in the media paint the right as the dividers while leaving the left untouched.  We're on the same page on that point.

 

And it is a bi-product of politics in America. I don't remember when it happened, but all of a sudden, people started defending crappy behavior and government because it was "our side".

 

If you vote for a guy, and he screws up, you should be *more* upset. Instead, we feel like we need to defend the guy and the opposition wants to pile on any minor infraction. When supporters demand more from their candidates, then we'll get back on track. That will not happen because there are no multi million dollar campaigns and radio shows calling for it.

[NUKE_CLEVELAND]

And it is a bi-product of politics in America. I don't remember when it happened, but all of a sudden, people started defending crappy behavior and government because it was "our side".

 

If you vote for a guy, and he screws up, you should be *more* upset. Instead, we feel like we need to defend the guy and the opposition wants to pile on any minor infraction. When supporters demand more from their candidates, then we'll get back on track. That will not happen because there are no multi million dollar campaigns and radio shows calling for it.

 

 

If by crappy behaivior you mean the Plame investigation or cronyism in the Administration I haven't defended it at all. Recall that in an earlier thread I referred to the conduct in the Plame outing as treason and how those guilty should be punished accordingly. By guilty, I mean convicted in a court of law, however, not in the court of public opinion.

 

I also took a shot at Bush for part of the Katrina disaster, specifically the fact that a hack like Brown got a job as important as head of FEMA. All I ask is for someone, ANYONE, at the local level to stand up and say "I screwed up". Blanco and Nagin preferred to point the finger at the President and that was most unfortunate because those 2 were the first lines of defense in a crisis and they utterly failed at their jobs.

Edited November 6, 2005 by NUKE_CLEVELAND

[Texsox]

I was also thinking some of Clinton's sexcapades as well.

[Rex Kickass]

I was also thinking some of Clinton's sexcapades as well.

I was just thinking that I could go for some of that this time around.

 

You know whats funny? Hypocrisy is hypocrisy. It's all over the place.

 

So the Clintons reduced their estate tax burden after keeping the estate tax.

 

Rush Limbaugh didn't exactly turn himself into the cops after admitting he was a drug addict.

 

George Bush didn't maintain "honor and integrity" by refusing to fire the people responsible for a CIA leak.

 

It happens all over. It just is.

[Texsox]

I just went to order that book, it was listed under fiction

[mreye]

Any book or movie or anything that paints the other side as the real problem is divise.  Michael Moore, Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Bernie Goldberg, KipWellsFan and even Al Franken do it.

 

[kapkomet]

 

That KipWellsFan is getting pretty damn popular, that's some heavy hitters he's keeping up with!

[jasonxctf]

I just went to order that book, it was listed under fiction 

 

and why wouldnt it be. all these authors who write these slanderous books (on both sides of the aisle) disgust me.

 

whats the saying.. if you expect your leaders to have higher morals and values than the normal man, then you are just setting yourself up for disapointment.

[Mercy!]

and why wouldnt it be. all these authors who write these slanderous books (on both sides of the aisle) disgust me.

 

whats the saying.. if you expect your leaders to have higher morals and values than the normal man, then you are just setting yourself up for disapointment.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I’m not aware of any material that could be labeled “slanderous” in this book. Perhaps you could point out any instance you know of.

 

I do think there’s a real irony here, though. Those who classify themselves as social or religious Conservatives seem to be telling me that they are the arbiters of righteous conduct. They claim that their beliefs are the true ones, and that everyone should follow their precepts. Hence their hypocrisy is all the more laughable when they are caught with their (metaphorical) pants down. Rush: throw all the druggies in prison …..Oops!, I’ve got an illness.

 

Liberals, on the other hand, usually don’t hold themselves above everyone else, and tolerate a much more diverse community as long as adult conduct doesn’t impinge on someone else’s rights.

 

Give me secular law over religious law any day. Our founders knew what would keep our country strong.

[NUKE_CLEVELAND]

Liberals, on the other hand, usually don’t hold themselves above everyone else, and tolerate a much more diverse community as long as adult conduct doesn’t impinge on someone else’s rights. 

 

 

 

I dont know what makes me laugh more, the fact that you of all people said it or the fact its simply not true.

 

Hang on a second, I take that last part back as there is some truth to it. Liberals are defenitely tolerant of a wide array of viewpoints, just so long as you dont dare to hold one that is divergent from their own.

[Mercy!]

I dont know what makes me laugh more, the fact that you of all people said it or the fact its simply not true.

 

Hang on a second, I take that last part back as there is some truth to it.  Liberals are defenitely tolerant of a wide array of viewpoints, just so long as you dont dare to hold one that is divergent from their own.

 

My standard reply #1 to Nuke's incessant trolling (@ Post #11)

 

My standard reply #2 to Nuke's incessant trolling (@ Post #7)

[NUKE_CLEVELAND]

My standard reply #1 to Nuke's incessant trolling (@ Post #11)

 

My standard reply #2 to Nuke's incessant trolling (@ Post #7)

 

 

Fair enough. Post 13 becomes my standard response to your shrill babble.

[KipWellsFan]

Liberals are defenitely tolerant of a wide array of viewpoints, just so long as you dont dare to hold one that is divergent from their own.

 

Go to conservativelife.com and try espousing a liberal point of view, you're a communist, anti-American and unpatriotic. Both radical elements of both sides do it.

[NUKE_CLEVELAND]

Both radical elements of both sides do it.

 

 

I'll buy that. Which is why I prefer to come here to talk politics. For the most part we can debate the issues without getting personal.

[The Ginger Kid]

We need to mate Ann Coulter with Al Franken and produce the child that will unite us all. Hopefully he/she is a hermaphrodite christian homosexual in comfortable shoes who appreciates both Larry David and Jeff Foxworthy.

 

Until then, ask yourself one question: do you prefer a "liberal" helping of turkey at Thanksgiving, or a "conservative" helping? I trust this enlightening exercise will dramatically influence your next trip to the polls.

[Texsox]

My standard reply #1 to Nuke's incessant trolling (@ Post #11)

 

My standard reply #2 to Nuke's incessant trolling (@ Post #7)

 

 

Fair enough.  Post 13 becomes my standard response to your shrill babble.

 

Do they still make paint by numbers kits? They could package a debate by numbers kit and include it free.

 

Both extremes embarrass the bulk of the voters. One issue I see as a conservative Democrat, or as a liberal Republican, is both parties want all or nothing. Either you agree with everything the party tosses out, or you are ostracized. The Dem party faithful don't like to here my gun control speech, and the GOP party faithful don't like to hear my anti-death penalty stance. Neither party wants to hear me tell them to quit spending so much money, quit giving tax cuts until their is a budget surplus, pay down the debt, don't borrow from countries that don't support out values, act responsibly, quit being petty and vindictive when you lose, act like statesmen, etc.