CSF Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Expected Street, but I really thought Francoeur would get it in the NL. Either way, both were deserving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 (edited) I was right on both. Also . . . Willy Tavares got runner up in the NL as well as Robinson Cano in the AL Edited November 7, 2005 by Kalapse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirScott Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 I'm more hung up on the blooper award...how could John Smoltz not be nominated, with that one tumbling play where he didn't come close to tagging first base? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Glad to see Cano not getting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 11:10 AM) Glad to see Cano not getting it. Agreed very much here. As much as I wanted to see Iguchi win for sentimental reasons and because of how much he did for us that didn't show up on paper, Street had the better numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Interestingly, Iguchi got second-most first place votes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Cano doesnt even deserve to be in the top 4.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 QUOTE(Felix @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 02:31 PM) Cano doesnt even deserve to be in the top 4.. Name 4 more deserving rookies in the AL please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 09:57 PM) Name 4 more deserving rookies in the AL please. Chacin Iguchi Street Gomes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 8, 2005 -> 11:19 AM) Chacin Iguchi Street Gomes A lot of splitting hairs here. The Yankees were lifeless when Cano and Wang came up. They were a B-12 shot for that team. Not saying he's the ROY but he is certainly in the conversation. Big Sepetember too in money time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Cano is the guy on that list that I think has the most upside. Well him and Houston Street (he's gonna be a quality closer for a long time). Cano is a pretty good player, just look at his stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Nov 9, 2005 -> 12:32 PM) Cano is the guy on that list that I think has the most upside. Well him and Houston Street (he's gonna be a quality closer for a long time). Cano is a pretty good player, just look at his stats. When I was looking at Cano's stats a few weeks back, he was terrible at Yankee Stadium, but absolute money on the road. If I'm Minny, if New York wants Torii Hunter, I want Robinson Cano back. Frees up money for them to acquire a Jim Thome as well, if that's the path they want to take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Nov 8, 2005 -> 07:35 PM) When I was looking at Cano's stats a few weeks back, he was terrible at Yankee Stadium, but absolute money on the road. If I'm Minny, if New York wants Torii Hunter, I want Robinson Cano back. Frees up money for them to acquire a Jim Thome as well, if that's the path they want to take. Cano for hunter?!?!?! No one ever thought of that idea before... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Had Francouer played the entire year in the majors, he would have won it quite easily. Full season his numbers project to around .300, 30 HR and 105 RBI or so. IMO he'll be a much better player than Ryan Howard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 QUOTE(aboz56 @ Nov 9, 2005 -> 05:24 AM) Had Francouer played the entire year in the majors, he would have won it quite easily. Full season his numbers project to around .300, 30 HR and 105 RBI or so. IMO he'll be a much better player than Ryan Howard. I disagree... I think pitchers are going to solve Francouer this season and since he doesnt take many walks its going to really hurt him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 QUOTE(aboz56 @ Nov 9, 2005 -> 12:24 AM) Had Francouer played the entire year in the majors, he would have won it quite easily. Full season his numbers project to around .300, 30 HR and 105 RBI or so. IMO he'll be a much better player than Ryan Howard. He better learn to take a walk, then. I think he had two walks the whole time in the majors, and one of those was intentional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 QUOTE(aboz56 @ Nov 8, 2005 -> 11:24 PM) Had Francouer played the entire year in the majors, he would have won it quite easily. Full season his numbers project to around .300, 30 HR and 105 RBI or so. IMO he'll be a much better player than Ryan Howard. I disagree as well, Howard is going to be a flat out stud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Francouer will in the long run be a better all around player, imo. That said, he's going to have some growing pains next year. He's still too raw at the plate and will have to improve his strike zone judgement and his approach at the plate. That said, he'll still end up having solid numbers, just nowhere like he had this past year (when you project them over a full season). In a few years, I suspect he'll be an all star. Great arm, fluid body, very live bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Willing to be someone that he doesn't hit in the .260's next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Willing to be someone that he doesn't hit in the .260's next season. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I would tend to agree. Just don't throw him a fastball near the heart of the plate and he will go Corey Patterson style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Nov 8, 2005 -> 12:57 AM) Name 4 more deserving rookies in the AL please. Street Gomes Iguchi Blanton Chacin Thats 5, is that ok? And yea, thats my top 5 in order. Also, the rookie of the year is the rookie who had the best numbers, not the rookies who did the most for their team. And even if you claim that it is the rookie who did the most for their team, Iguchi was far more important on the Sox, while also having better numbers than Cano put up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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