Heads22 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 QUOTE(GoRowand33 @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 08:39 PM) also the control issue that T.O. had with Mcnabb wouldn't be an issue with Orton What Kyle Orton have you been watching? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 With two receiver threats orton wouldn't have to be so touchy on his throws, so maybe the accuracy would improve also the control issue that T.O. had with Mcnabb wouldn't be an issue with Orton <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, because Orton has a better deep ball than McNabb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 08:34 PM) his agent wanted him to make more money. His agent is the Scott Boras of football. His agent was behind the hold out in camp. Which is exactly why Willis McGahee is acting like a circus clown, doing the stupidest s*** on earth :rolly Rosenhaus represents more than just TO...just in case you were wondering. QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 08:35 PM) I think he would be smart enough to realize that he would make Orton better. :banghead :banghead :banghead Terrell Owens:smart::Paul Konerko:fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxin' Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 09:38 PM) Haha, unless TO can jump 30M in the air I suppose. We don't use that silly metric system in America. Anyways, TO = Cancer. Didn't AJ = Cancer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 QUOTE(whitesoxin' @ Nov 8, 2005 -> 01:53 PM) We don't use that silly metric system in America. Anyways, TO = Cancer. Didn't AJ = Cancer? A.J didn't get kicked off two teams, and didn't complain about his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 08:40 PM) I know that but there's no way Drew Rosenhaus wanted TO to take it this far. who knows. He is bad for the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 QUOTE(GoRowand33 @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 08:13 PM) I think the Bears should try and sign him to my knowledge we have plenty of money to spend(I could be wrong) we have just lost Mark Bradley for the year, and we can draw a double team off of Muhsin Muhammed which could greatly help a young quarterback in Kyle Orton I say he's worth the risk The Bears are fragile enough as it is. They cant afford to have a guy like that running around causing trouble. If TO is talking s*** about Donovan McNabb in public just imagine what he's going to say about Kyle Orton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 From a football standpoint, he is 2nd best receiver in the game behind Moss. His football skills on the field are great, no doubt. But when you factor in all the negative bulls*** off the field, it causes a problem. Perhaps a change of scenery would do him well. You never know for a fact unless your try. Look at AJ Pierzynski and Carl Everett. Oh, and by the way, Drew Rosenhaus is probably a bigger asswhole than TO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 From a football standpoint, he is 2nd best receiver in the game behind Moss. His football skills on the field are great, no doubt. But when you factor in all the negative bulls*** off the field, it causes a problem. Perhaps a change of scenery would do him well. You never know for a fact unless your try. Look at AJ Pierzynski and Carl Everett. Oh, and by the way, Drew Rosenhaus is probably a bigger asswhole than TO. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> TO is better than Moss. And he would probably be more of a jackass with the Bears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 8, 2005 -> 12:16 AM) TO is better than Moss. And he would probably be more of a jackass with the Bears. Uuuum, no. Moss is the best reciever in the league. Thanks. BTW, basing this of skill, talent, stats, and off-field issues. But when you put it that way, Marvin Harrison gets a good argument but, yah, Moss is best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 (edited) Uuuum, no. Moss is the best reciever in the league. Thanks. BTW, basing this of skill, talent, stats, and off-field issues. But when you put it that way, Marvin Harrison gets a good argument but, yah, Moss is best. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Uuuum, no. I disagree. TO is better than Moss. TO may be a jackass but he doesn't take plays off when he is actually playing. He also knows how to block while Moss is clueless in that department. What has Moss done this season to show that he's a better receiver than TO? And how do you factor in off-field issues when deciding on who is the better receiver? Both are clowns. We are talking about talent here. Edited November 8, 2005 by SSH2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Moss MIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 10:15 PM) From a football standpoint, he is 2nd best receiver in the game behind Moss. His football skills on the field are great, no doubt. But when you factor in all the negative bulls*** off the field, it causes a problem. Perhaps a change of scenery would do him well. You never know for a fact unless your try. Look at AJ Pierzynski and Carl Everett. Oh, and by the way, Drew Rosenhaus is probably a bigger asswhole than TO. The change of scenery sure helped from getting out of SF, I mean playing on the eagles is where he wanted to be. TO is a cancer, period, no matter where he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 T.O.>Moss IMO Owens Moss YPG 90.35 81.85882353 TD/G 0.8875 0.776470588 Numbers from 2000-current Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Moss has really faded lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 8, 2005 -> 12:24 AM) Uuuum, no. I disagree. TO is better than Moss. TO may be a jackass but he doesn't take plays off when he is actually playing. He also knows how to block while Moss is clueless in that department. What has Moss done this season to show that he's a better receiver than TO? And how do you factor in off-field issues when deciding on who is a better receiver? Uuuum, what have we heard from Moss AT ALL this season off the field? Nada. And you can't say one is better because his team is better. Uuum, look at what Moss has compared to TO. Yeah. I mean stat wise, Moss is only tops in the league in yards per catch at 20.8! And receptions/rec. yards can't be factored in because the Eagles are a pass team and the Raiders are developing a run game with LaMont Jordan. BTW, Moss has more support in his WR group. I mean all they have is Jerry Porter, Randy Moss, and Doug Gabriel to spread the ball out to. Not to mention a developing young star TE in Courtney Anderson. Eagles pass to To and Westbrook...thats it. Oakland spreads the ball around more. Moss > TO. Sorry. EDIT: No point in fighting. Agree to disagree and thats it. Edited November 8, 2005 by SoxFan1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 QUOTE(GoRowand33 @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 08:13 PM) I think the Bears should try and sign him to my knowledge we have plenty of money to spend(I could be wrong) we have just lost Mark Bradley for the year, and we can draw a double team off of Muhsin Muhammed which could greatly help a young quarterback in Kyle Orton I say he's worth the risk No thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Nov 8, 2005 -> 12:30 AM) T.O.>Moss IMO Owens Moss YPG 90.35 81.85882353 TD/G 0.8875 0.776470588 Numbers from 2000-current Are those the numbers you are basing your opinion off of? 9 yards and 1/10 of a TD a game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Did you watch any of the Chiefs-Raiders game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 T.O.>Moss IMO <pre> Owens Moss YPG 90.35 81.85882353 TD/G 0.8875 0.776470588 </pre> Numbers from 2000-current <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Moss has really faded lately. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> EDIT: No point in fighting. Agree to disagree and thats it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No thanks. You're wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 10:33 PM) Are those the numbers you are basing your opinion off of? 9 yards and 1/10 of a TD a game? If 0.776470588 is 1/10 than ya sure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Nov 8, 2005 -> 03:32 PM) Eagles pass to To and Westbrook...thats it. L.J Smith and Greg Lewis would disagree with you there; Owens 47 REC Westbrook 43 REC Smith 36 REC Lewis 31 REC And Reggie Brown's going to be a big part of their passing attack too now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 8, 2005 -> 12:34 AM) No thanks. You're wrong. WTF man. Do you have to be a ass about it? I think you're wrong, you think I'm wrong. Calm down. BTW, I'm right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 If 0.776470588 is 1/10 than ya sure... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He must have failed math class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 WTF man. Do you have to be a ass about it? I think you're wrong, you think I'm wrong. Calm down. BTW, I'm right. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Moss was really putting up better numbers than TO this year too, just to prove that you're right. :rolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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