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They have got to get Nocioni and Songaila out of the starting lineup. I can't think of any possible reason that Deng is behind Nocioni, Luol is a much better player. They should probably get Sweetney in as a starter instead of Songaila. They need more offensive punch out of the starters, and Sweetney is their only post scorer.

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QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Nov 9, 2005 -> 08:28 PM)
Tim Thomas needs to be in the game at some point, what's the deal?  He can't play great defense, but he is good offensively and a freakish athlete, he was only the best high school player ever.

 

Tim thomas is brutal offensively and worse defensively. Best high school player ever? LOL.

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QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Nov 9, 2005 -> 08:38 PM)
Look up the numbers, buddy.  He was a top 5 HS basketball player.

 

Of all time? No. When he was coming out? Yes.

 

Do you realize how common his high school numbers are?

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QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Nov 9, 2005 -> 08:42 PM)
He couldn't have been that good, he went to Villanova.

 

They had four top 20 recruiting classes from 1993-1997. Thomas was one of the best prospects at the time. But to say he was the best high school player of all time just by looking at his stats in highschool... is stupid. His numbers are not uncommon.

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QUOTE(qwerty @ Nov 9, 2005 -> 09:46 PM)
They had four top 20 recruiting classes from 1993-1997. Thomas was one of the best prospects at the time. But to say he was the best high school player of all time just by looking at his stats in highschool... is stupid. His numbers are not uncommon.

 

Sorry, that should have been in green.

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Off the top of my head Dajuan Wagner was a ridiculously good high school player, and Kobe was pretty impressive too. I don't know enough about some of the older guys to know if Lew Alcindor or Wilt Chamberlain were that good in high school. There are probably a few guys I've never heard of that were great.

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QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Nov 9, 2005 -> 08:54 PM)
Off the top of my head Dajuan Wagner was a ridiculously good high school player, and Kobe was pretty impressive too. I don't know enough about some of the older guys to know if Lew Alcindor or Wilt Chamberlain were that good in high school. There are probably a few guys I've never heard of that were great.

 

Al jefferson wasn't too shabby. He averaged 33.2, 18, 3.4 assists per game, and 4.7 blocks a game.

 

Lead down to four... nice little run.

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QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Nov 9, 2005 -> 08:54 PM)
Off the top of my head Dajuan Wagner was a ridiculously good high school player, and Kobe was pretty impressive too. I don't know enough about some of the older guys to know if Lew Alcindor or Wilt Chamberlain were that good in high school. There are probably a few guys I've never heard of that were great.

 

Wagner scored 81 in a game his junior year and 100 his senior year... just amazing.

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QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Nov 9, 2005 -> 09:23 PM)
Damn, Sweetney has more low post moves than about anyone in the NBA.  If Skiles can help get him into shape...he's gonna be a perennial all star.

 

Not while playing less than 20 minutes a game... and his zero defensive presence.

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QUOTE(qwerty @ Nov 9, 2005 -> 07:25 PM)
Not while playing less than 20 minutes a game... and his zero defensive presence.

He's going to continually get more and more minutes. And as he gets into better shape (and trust me he will) he's gonna turn into a beast (i'm talking another year down the road). You highly under-rate the big man though.

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